News in today’s Daily Telegraph that:

 

“The NHS is preparing to release an app that alerts users if they come into contact with someone who has tested positive for coronavirus. The opt-in programme is likely to be introduced as restrictions on movement are lifted and could prevent the need for further clampdowns.”

 

“It will work by using Bluetooth technology to connect users' phones to other nearby phones, and to record people who have come into close proximity - at a distance of two metres - for 15 minutes. If someone tests positive for coronavirus and records it on the app, it will automatically alert those who were near them in the past few weeks, and ask them to self-isolate.”

 

Oh isn’t that wonderful! It’ll mean that the government can keep us all safe without needing to go into lockdown! Let’s all sign up for the app and discredit anyone who refuses to join in! It is all for the good of all! Make it mandatory to carry your phone with the app!

 

No tin foil hats necessary to see where this is going. Expect other countries to follow if the take up is successful.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/31/new-contact-tracing-app-could-key-ending-coronavirus-lockdown/

Good idea afaic. Would you prefer to keep things as they are all for the sake of 'freedom'? They should make one that tracks paedophiles too! 

They have it in Singapore and it means no-one is on lock down, except new arrivals into the country and positive cases.

It's working a treat and the benefit in quick contact tracing is keeping numbers well in check....

 

But if they try and keep it once the virus scare is over, then we enter another dimension ????

5 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

But if they try and keep it once the virus scare is over, then we enter another dimension ????

 

Exactly my point. Thank you.

 

Not hard to imagine a situation where this virus 'lingers' on almost indefinitely and then there will be another and another and so on indefinitely. Once citizens become used to the monitoring and control, there will be no turning back.

9 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Exactly my point. Thank you.

Instill enough fear and people will be begging them to keep measures in place, "they" will make sure that happens!

These are the same people in control that we knew we couldn't trust weeks ago ????

How quickly times change!

This is what they did in South Korea to bring the outbreak there under control quickly, together with a lot of testing. It worked, why the negativity?

40 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

 

Exactly my point. Thank you.

 

Not hard to imagine a situation where this virus 'lingers' on almost indefinitely and then there will be another and another and so on indefinitely. Once citizens become used to the monitoring and control, there will be no turning back.

If you were really worried about being tracked why do you come on here each day!!!!

 

1 hour ago, Antonymous said:

The opt-in programme

'nuf said.

52 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Once citizens become used to the monitoring and control, there will be no turning back.

We're already used to it. Cameras everywhere, AI, facial recognition, GPS tracking location and storing it (think Google).

 

Cat's already out of the bag and it's never going back in.

5 minutes ago, KeeTua said:

Cat's already out of the bag and it's never going back in.

So will you be first in line to be "chipped" and "vaccinated" if its inevitable as you state.

Sorry. What is the date again?

27 minutes ago, sungod said:

If you were really worried about being tracked why do you come on here each day!!!!

 

But, but...

 

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

 

OK, serious response: you are talking about chalk and cheese. Neither ThaiVisa nor any authority with access to TV user data is able to follow my every movement 24 hours a day, as the WuFlu app can. Hence I am not in the least worried about posting on TV. But thanks for your concern.

What makes you think I am concerned about you in the slightest?

 

Have a rather high opinion of yourself? Maybe it is a case of 'dont you know who I am 'after all ????

So how does it work if you have no mobile phone ?

1 minute ago, Denim said:

So how does it work if you have no mobile phone ?

The WINNER.

 

 

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

They should make one that tracks paedophiles too! 

Why only paedophiles?  If we're allowed to know if potential criminals are near us, I want to know about burglars, muggers, pickpockets, anyone who's ever physically or sexually assaulted anyone, rapists, murderers, fraudsters, car thieves, anyone who might pose a threat to anyone should be on there!

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

If we're allowed to know if potential criminals are near us, I want to know about

Potential ? Who makes that call ? Politicians ? the Police ? 555

So ... you would add people who belong to a 1. different religion 2. different political party 3. different sexual proclivity 4. have tattoos 5. been in jail 6. and on and on and on ...

 

Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation¹ :

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

18 hours ago, Guderian said:

This is what they did in South Korea to bring the outbreak there under control quickly, together with a lot of testing. It worked, why the negativity?

Because if you give someone power,they will always,always eventually abuse it .

Most freedoms are taken away from the public with their full enthusiasm, It's always presented as the lie of keeping us safe.

yes I work in the tech industry and there are already apps out there that do similar things.  I still have my 3g flip top phone, voice and text only.  I planned on keeping that until the lights go out.  However ATT sent me a text last week saying 3g support is going away in Feb 2023.  Similarly about 10 years ago I had to replace my old Ericson 2 g phone because the network was not supporting 2g anymore. 

On 4/1/2020 at 4:06 PM, Guderian said:

This is what they did in South Korea to bring the outbreak there under control quickly, together with a lot of testing. It worked, why the negativity?

Because if you give someone power ,they will always abuse it , there will be more of this in the future ,all in the name of safety, be afraid ,be very afraid????

On 4/1/2020 at 3:23 PM, daveAustin said:

Good idea afaic. Would you prefer to keep things as they are all for the sake of 'freedom'? They should make one that tracks paedophiles too! 

why not have one that tracks everyone all the time?

then you can sack most of the police, and just arrest those nearby when a crime happens.

Every politicians dream, a nation of scared, compliant people.

 

China exported more than their virus.

On 4/1/2020 at 4:49 PM, Antonymous said:

But, but...

 

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

 

OK, serious response: you are talking about chalk and cheese. Neither ThaiVisa nor any authority with access to TV user data is able to follow my every movement 24 hours a day, as the WuFlu app can. Hence I am not in the least worried about posting on TV. But thanks for your concern.

mods can view your ip address.

they can see where you are at every post you make.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

mods can view your ip address.

they can see where you are at every post you make.

They can see where the IP address says you are - but if using a half decent VPN you could theoretically be almost anywhere you want to be.