Poll signals strengthening support for Biden over Trump in three battleground states

[spidermike007]

15 minutes ago, candide said:

The most funny aspect of it is that Biden just has to stay quiet, and let Trump talk B.S. and discredit himself.

The same trend can be observed in all polls, including by Fox News, as shown in these two websites.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

 

Correct. All Biden has to do is stay in the background, and let Trump shoot himself in the foot daily. If only he could stop tweeting, and stop talking, his approval ratings would probably jump 10 points. 

[BobBKK]

I think Covid has helped Biden immensely as he can get more naps and learn his lines. If Trump was doing his rallies and Biden was actually being interviewed he might be in real trouble. DNC very wise to keep him out of the way, isolating.  Trump just needs to shut up but doubt that will ever happen. 

[jimmybcool]

6 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Not so sure that he wants to give up his present 'invulnerable' position. there are a bunch of law-suits hanging over his head once he is POTUS-off and so he might well spend the rest of his days in a color-matching jumpsuit.

The next president might give him indemnity from that, but once again not so sure whether 'Sleepy Joe' would be inclined to do that after Trumps accusations at this address.

 

It's sad anyone believes this.  Hasn't the fact Hillary and others aren't in prison proven that politicians are a protected class and do not "do time" for the rumored crimes they commit?  It's just fodder for both sides to believe in and once out of office they sit home and count their money.

 

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

It's sad anyone believes this.  Hasn't the fact Hillary and others aren't in prison proven that politicians are a protected class and do not "do time" for the rumored crimes they commit?  It's just fodder for both sides to believe in and once out of office they sit home and count their money.

 

No, that hasn't proven that.

[Sujo]

I feel sad for the president that follows trump next year. The US is a complete mess that will take more than a decade to fix.

 

He certainly is leaving it in a covfefe.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, BobBKK said:

I think Covid has helped Biden immensely as he can get more naps and learn his lines. If Trump was doing his rallies and Biden was actually being interviewed he might be in real trouble. DNC very wise to keep him out of the way, isolating.  Trump just needs to shut up but doubt that will ever happen. 

Trump is doing his rallies, thinly disguised as news briefings and all on the Taxpayer’s Dime.

 

You should watch one, embarrassing as they are it’s worth the cringes, you’ll get to see a feeble mind deteriorating before your eyes.

[frenetic]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The most fascinating, and perhaps satisfying part of this, at least in the minds of his adversaries, is that his wealth has diminished significantly. Though I do not expect him to be homeless anytime soon, his name is beyond radioactive, and I predict he will never do another management, nor merchandising deal in this lifetime. He already lost nearly all of his 19 merchandising deals since becoming president, as sponsors have literally fled for the hills. And Trump Intl. has not been asked to do a single management deal either. Owners can barely lease or sell a unit in any building that has his name on it. He is toast, in terms of business. 

It's not at all certain that Trump's wealth has declined. The 2017 tax bill most likely lowered his taxes enormously given that pass through entities and real estate businesses were especially favored. And then here's the latest scam that the Senate managed to wangle for the top 0.1 percent. It too especially favors real estate businesses and pass through entities. And it's going to cost the US government 90 Billion Dollars! For just 2020.

"This tax provision in the coronavirus relief bill will cost taxpayers about $90 billion in 2020. About 82 percent of the benefits will go to about 43,000 taxpayers who earn more than $1 million annually, saving them an average of $1.7 million in tax liabilities, while less than 3 percent of the benefits will go to those making less than $100,000 a year.

“For those earning $1 million annually, a tax break buried in the recent coronavirus relief legislation is so generous that its total cost is more than total new funding for all hospitals in America and more than the total provided to all state and local governments,” House Representative Lloyd Doggett, a Democrat from Texas, who requested the JCT report along with Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, also a Democrat, said in a statement on Tuesday."

https://observer.com/2020/04/coronavirus-stimulus-bill-cares-act-tax-code-controversy/

Edited April 24, 2020 by frenetic

[frenetic]

9 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Not what I read yesterday. Trump deadlocked in all swing states!

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/2020-election-polls-trump-and-biden-deadlocked-in-az-fl-mi-nc-pa-wi.html

actually, Change research, which conducted these polls, gets a very low grade of "C" from fivethirtyeight.com.  Better rated polls like Fox News put Biden strongly ahead in Pennsylvania and Michigan and weakly ahead in Florida.

[Redline]

19 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

So today it was reported by the same jerks in the media looking for their 'gotcha' moment that covid 19 is picking up tempo in red states (flyover country as its referred to by theses same elites) after being exported from their blue states to rural areas. 

 

So apparently this is another hurr duur gotcha moment ????

Like it matters about politics when it comes to a virus ???????? really it’s communist!

[Tippaporn]

I think it a waste of time to pay attention to any poll when we're still six months away from the election.  So many potential events still looming on the horizon which could be major game changers.  Durham is one such event.

[Tippaporn]

It's still mind blowing to me that the best the Dems could come up with is Biden.  Aside from the fact that he's clearly losing his cognitive abilities he is no less 'damaged goods' than Hillary was.  Good luck, Dems.

[earlinclaifornia]

8 hours ago, frenetic said:

actually, Change research, which conducted these polls, gets a very low grade of "C" from fivethirtyeight.com.  Better rated polls like Fox News put Biden strongly ahead in Pennsylvania and Michigan and weakly ahead in Florida.

I tried to look them up but was not able to locate with such a large lot in ratings. Thanks

[metisdead]

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[Tug]

Joe doesent have to do a thing trump is doing it for him lol

[stevenl]

27 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I tried to look them up but was not able to locate with such a large lot in ratings. Thanks

If I recall correctly there is a search function on that website.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I think it a waste of time to pay attention to any poll when we're still six months away from the election.  So many potential events still looming on the horizon which could be major game changers.  Durham is one such event.

And if the pols where the other way around you’d say the same.

[jimmybcool]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Joe doesent have to do a thing trump is doing it for him lol

Just like he did in 2016.  ????

 

[winslowsjardine]

1 hour ago, jimmybcool said:

Just like he did in 2016.  ????

 

Back then Trump was running as a populist who was going to take on Wall St. He was going to let Medicare negotiate drug prices. He promised a beautiful healthcare plan to replace Obamacare. And a trillion dollar infrastructure program.

As the 2018 midterms showed, key demographic groups have soured on Trump. 

[Tippaporn]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And if the pols where the other way around you’d say the same.

Absolutely.  Today's polls will be meaningless six months from now.

[frenetic]

32 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Absolutely.  Today's polls will be meaningless six months from now.

But very meaningful when you consider that Biden has been pretty much sidelined by the coronavirus and Trump's numbers have declined considerably again. It's clear that Trump's biggest obstacle to reelection is himself.

[jimmybcool]

9 hours ago, winslowsjardine said:

Back then Trump was running as a populist who was going to take on Wall St. He was going to let Medicare negotiate drug prices. He promised a beautiful healthcare plan to replace Obamacare. And a trillion dollar infrastructure program.

As the 2018 midterms showed, key demographic groups have soured on Trump. 

Politics are a funny game.  Wanna bet who the voters that elected Trump think are the problem?  We'll know in November.

 

[Tug]

11 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

Just like he did in 2016.  ????

 

Oh I don’t know about that lol let’s just lightly touch what’s happened since 2016.highest unemployment in history highest deficit in history rolling back women’s rites to the pre 50s levels wrecking our crappy healthcare separating toddlers from their mommies sending allies and their families to their deaths (Kurds)inviting foreigners to no,soliciting foreigners to interfere in our elections failing to protect and uphold the constitution 50,000 dead because of mishandling covid 19 suggests injecting deadly poison to defeat the virus driving our allies away and at the same time sucking up to the worst despots alive today that’s just scratching the surface no sir he has a record now that’s the difference from 2016

[jimmybcool]

30 minutes ago, Tug said:

Oh I don’t know about that lol let’s just lightly touch what’s happened since 2016.highest unemployment in history highest deficit in history rolling back women’s rites to the pre 50s levels wrecking our crappy healthcare separating toddlers from their mommies sending allies and their families to their deaths (Kurds)inviting foreigners to no,soliciting foreigners to interfere in our elections failing to protect and uphold the constitution 50,000 dead because of mishandling covid 19 suggests injecting deadly poison to defeat the virus driving our allies away and at the same time sucking up to the worst despots alive today that’s just scratching the surface no sir he has a record now that’s the difference from 2016

 

Weird how you reach the conclusion that all this actually happened and was caused by Trump.  Really should stop watching CNN.  

[stevenl]

36 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Weird how you reach the conclusion that all this actually happened and was caused by Trump.  Really should stop watching CNN.  

Only if you live in an alternate reality that all didn't happen.

 

I do think though not all 50k deaths are on Trump, even a pro active reaction wouldn't have reduced the death count to zero.

[jimmybcool]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Only if you live in an alternate reality that all didn't happen.

 

I do think though not all 50k deaths are on Trump, even a pro active reaction wouldn't have reduced the death count to zero.

If you believe all that happened as he wrote them you are in an alternate reality.  Very skewed vision of reality.

 

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

If you believe all that happened as he wrote them you are in an alternate reality.  Very skewed vision of reality.

 

Strange statement, since the social elements mentioned by tug are exactly what the Trump fans want.

[jimmybcool]

21 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Strange statement, since the social elements mentioned by tug are exactly what the Trump fans want.

I wouldn't know.  I am not a huge fan of Trump.  Troll someone who is.

 

 

[Tug]

56 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

If you believe all that happened as he wrote them you are in an alternate reality.  Very skewed vision of reality.

 

Sadly what I’ve posted is true I wish it was otherwise it is what it is unemployment women’s rites healthcare the deficit the treatment of allies separation of families inviting foreign interference in our elections the failure to abide by and protect the constitution sadly it’s all true this is all happening on trumps watch sir it is fact

[jimmybcool]

8 minutes ago, Tug said:

Sadly what I’ve posted is true I wish it was otherwise it is what it is unemployment women’s rites healthcare the deficit the treatment of allies separation of families inviting foreign interference in our elections the failure to abide by and protect the constitution sadly it’s all true this is all happening on trumps watch sir it is fact

Except - it is not fact.  Women's rights?  I've seen no change.  Inviting foreign interference in elections?  Seems Mueller proved that didn't happen.  Or some can not accept the result.  Pathetic really.  I mean if it happened it happened under Obamas watch.  Healthcare?  No changes to it.  Messed po yeah but lets ask the DEMs how that program is going to save us all money.  Separation of families?  Sure - continuation of previous Obama policy.  Everything you ascribe is untrue.  

 

I'll probably vote Trump in the end but I don't have a MAGA hat or confederate flag.  I am very centrist in most of my views.  He was not who I voted for in the primaries.  But the DEMs have to be kept out of power.  They have lost their minds.

 

 

 

 

 

[frenetic]

26 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Except - it is not fact.  Women's rights?  I've seen no change.  Inviting foreign interference in elections?  Seems Mueller proved that didn't happen.  Or some can not accept the result.  Pathetic really.  I mean if it happened it happened under Obamas watch.  Healthcare?  No changes to it.  Messed po yeah but lets ask the DEMs how that program is going to save us all money.  Separation of families?  Sure - continuation of previous Obama policy.  Everything you ascribe is untrue.  

 

I'll probably vote Trump in the end but I don't have a MAGA hat or confederate flag.  I am very centrist in most of my views.  He was not who I voted for in the primaries.  But the DEMs have to be kept out of power.  They have lost their minds.

 

You've seen no change to women's rights? How about the war it has waged on Planned parenthood? Or maybe you should look at the Supreme Court's decision about abortion in Louisiana. They pretty much supported making it next to impossible to get one. Guess where Trump's appointees came down on the issue?

As for Mueller proving it didn't happen, this is completely untrue. Judge Reggie Walton recently castigated William Barr for misrepresenting the contents of the report which Barr is trying to keep hidden.

As for no changes to Obamacare... Trump has taken several steps that make it more expensive and harder to get. Also, the Trump administration is now permitting junk health care plans to be offered. What's more, the Trump administration has joined a lawsuit to invalidate Obamacare. Republicans are now running from it when questioned about it. How do you think that's going to play in the upcoming elections? You think millions of newly unemployed people aren't going to think very differently about the relationship of health care to employment?

No, the separation of families is not a continuation of Obama policy. Under Obama it was very rare and only under very special circumstances. Under Trump, it became the general rule. They actually lost track of thousands of children. Even in 2020 children were still being returned to their families.

Care to be specific about how the Democrats have lost their minds?

Edited April 25, 2020 by frenetic