Thailand reports six new coronavirus cases, no new deaths

[rooster59]

Thailand reports six new coronavirus cases, no new deaths

 

FILE PHOTO: Doctors and ICU nurses wearing personal protection equipment (PPE) perform a CT scan for a COVID-19 patient at the King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital in Bangkok, Thailand, April 23, 2020. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha/File photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand reported six new coronavirus cases and no new deaths on Saturday, bringing the total number of cases to 2,966.

 

New daily infections have stayed in the single digits for six consecutive days, prompting the government to allow some businesses and public parks to reopen starting on Sunday.

 

Three of the new cases were found on the southern resort island of Phuket, said Taweesin Wisanuyothin, a spokesman of the government's Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration.

 

While more than half of Thailand's nearly 3,000 cases were concentrated in Bangkok, Phuket has the highest rate of infection per population, Taweesin said.

 

Since Thailand first detected the coronavirus in January, a total of 54 patients have died, 2,732 have recovered and 180 are still hospitalised, according to official figures.

 

(Reporting by Patpicha Tanakasempipat. Editing by Kay Johnson.)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-05-02

 

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[scubascuba3]

There must be other cases daily but these are most likely serious and end up being hospitalised

[Somtamnication]

I know of one new case in Phuket. Nothing announced yet.

[Bkk Brian]

Since the numbers are so low and hospitalizations are now at a minimum which is fantastic news, please spend your covid budget on testing a random sample of each province so you get a real picture of the spread in Thailand, you know, just in case...............

 

South Korea now has plans to test the entire population to try and avoid a second wave.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

I know of one new case in Phuket. Nothing announced yet.

It was announced on Newshawk Phuket this morning, 3 new cases all from Bangtao

[smedly]

51 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

a total of 54 patients have died

interesting words "patients"

 

how many people in total have died in the last 4 months in Thailand, a figure everyone should be interested in, and just as important - what caused their death, since they rarely investigate deaths in Thailand or officially certify unless they happen in hospital or under under a truck that leaves a very big black hole of unknowns - they definitely were not tested for any link to the CV-19 pandemic 

 

 

how it works in Thailand or more accurately "doesn't"

 

This article describes exactly what I am talking about regarding Causes of Death in Thailand and how it is reported and recorded - it basically sums up my multiple posts on Thailand and how they record mortality rates here - in summary - it is extremely vague and wanting and ultimately extremely inaccurate without detail................3rd world

 

 

https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/Measuring-mortality-in-Thailand

Edited May 2, 2020 by smedly

[Kerryd]

That's funny, earlier today in the ThaiVisa newsletter there was an article that said Phuket had no new cases of covid.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162271-phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases/?utm_source=newsletter-20200502-0729&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

[jmccarty]

2 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

That's funny, earlier today in the ThaiVisa newsletter there was an article that said Phuket had no new cases of covid.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162271-phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases/?utm_source=newsletter-20200502-0729&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Depends on the time of the day. Test results take time still.

[SkyFax]

31 minutes ago, smedly said:

how many people in total have died in the last 4 months in Thailand, a figure everyone should be interested in

Everyone? Not everyone is in the daily "gotcha" mode.

[sapson]

All the whoopee do!! Thailand is down to single digits as predicted and we can now buy booze,

 

But 6 people from how many tested 21? or 56? 0r 106? and where exactly are the test results from and in which provinces.

 

With a policy of some testing in just so few areas the low figures are a charade to present to the media and public and justify policies.

 

What about reality with at least a thousand tested in each of the major cities nationwide.??

 

The beer ban being lifted is important because you would have to be slightly under the influence to really believe in your head or heart that these figures released are representative of the real Covid rate for a 70 million population that has a nationwide workforce that was for so many months exposed to the Chinese in the tourist areas of the country before dispersing nationwide.

 

They should re open the beaches!!...... so people can continue to bury their heads in the sand!!!

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

That's funny, earlier today in the ThaiVisa newsletter there was an article that said Phuket had no new cases of covid.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162271-phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases/?utm_source=newsletter-20200502-0729&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Three new COVID-19 cases confirmed in Phuket, all in Bang Tao

PHUKET: The Phuket Communicable Disease Committee today (May 2) announced three more confirmed cases of people in Phuket confirmed as infected with the COVID-19 coronavirus.

https://www.thephuketnews.com/three-new-covid-19-cases-confirmed-in-phuket-all-in-bang-tao-75929.php

[Guderian]

Does anyone have a reason why Phuket has had such a (relatively) big problem with the virus, at least compared with Pattaya? Is it the Muslim influence from the southern provinces, residents returning home carrying the infection after visiting Malaysia for religious purposes? Or is there something I'm missing?

[Old Croc]

24 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

That's funny, earlier today in the ThaiVisa newsletter there was an article that said Phuket had no new cases of covid.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162271-phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases/?utm_source=newsletter-20200502-0729&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

The source that Thaivisa was quoting was The Phuket News, a private media organization. The media on the Island rarely provide up to the minute information, and usually don't update at all over the weekends.  The zero new cases figure was for a previous day.

Thaivisa members are usually first to report breaking stories.

The Bang Tao Muslims are still sharing the disease among themselves and new cases are cropping up there on most days.

[Binger]

I did read somewhere nearly all cases on Phuket are Muslim as you said alot went to Malaysia for religious festivals and they still was attending Friday prays but not 100% sure 

[sapson]

23 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Does anyone have a reason why Phuket has had such a (relatively) big problem with the virus, at least compared with Pattaya? Is it the Muslim influence from the southern provinces, residents returning home carrying the infection after visiting Malaysia for religious purposes? Or is there something I'm missing?

Maybe so many Chinese visitors for so long and the previous governor allegedly not releasing some very early covid cases figures and keeping the resort and the tills open until the very last possible moment and importantly they are doing some regular daily testing in Phuket.

 

A future problem could also be the many thousands of Phuket tourist industry workers returning home to the provinces of Issan  etc to their families where testing is seemingly a last resort because of potential cost.

Edited May 2, 2020 by sapson

[mommysboy]

31 minutes ago, sapson said:

All the whoopee do!! Thailand is down to single digits as predicted and we can now buy booze,

 

But 6 people from how many tested 21? or 56? 0r 106? and where exactly are the test results from and in which provinces.

 

With a policy of some testing in just so few areas the low figures are a charade to present to the media and public and justify policies.

 

What about reality with at least a thousand tested in each of the major cities nationwide.??

 

The beer ban being lifted is important because you would have to be slightly under the influence to really believe in your head or heart that these figures released are representative of the real Covid rate for a 70 million population that has a nationwide workforce that was for so many months exposed to the Chinese in the tourist areas of the country before dispersing nationwide.

 

They should re open the beaches!!...... so people can continue to bury their heads in the sand!!!

 

Yes, random sampling would give the best indication of how widespread the virus is in the population.

 

 

[wensiensheng]

52 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Does anyone have a reason why Phuket has had such a (relatively) big problem with the virus, at least compared with Pattaya? Is it the Muslim influence from the southern provinces, residents returning home carrying the infection after visiting Malaysia for religious purposes? Or is there something I'm missing?

I live in Phuket. From what I see:

 

1. Initially Bangla Road area was a problem because of close proximity in bars. That sparked quite a few cases.

 

2. I don’t know why Bang Tao became such a big cluster, but to respond to your suggestion with regard to Muslims, in my area a see general adherence to social distancing and the wearing of masks. One caveat however, when cycling around the Tambon, I notice groups of people outside of two mosques, mostly prompted by a collection of food stalls outside of each of them. Sort of an impromptu market with no social distancing.

 

3. I hear the mosque calling people for prayer as was the case pre covid, but I don’t know whether people still actually go to the mosque.

 

Overall my general feeling is that Phuket has a high number of cases because there is a fairly high concentration of people in a small area and in the early days of covid, a lot of Chinese tourists. As a result, the virus gained a foothold early on.

Edited May 2, 2020 by wensiensheng

[Chiang Mai Bill]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Since the numbers are so low and hospitalizations are now at a minimum which is fantastic news, please spend your covid budget on testing a random sample of each province so you get a real picture of the spread in Thailand, you know, just in case...............

 

South Korea now has plans to test the entire population to try and avoid a second wave.

No point. When the influx of immigrant workers arrive again -- and the Chinese -- we will see a second wave.

[HHTel]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

interesting words "patients"

 

how many people in total have died in the last 4 months in Thailand, a figure everyone should be interested in, and just as important - what caused their death, since they rarely investigate deaths in Thailand or officially certify unless they happen in hospital or under under a truck that leaves a very big black hole of unknowns - they definitely were not tested for any link to the CV-19 pandemic 

 

 

how it works in Thailand or more accurately "doesn't"

 

This article describes exactly what I am talking about regarding Causes of Death in Thailand and how it is reported and recorded - it basically sums up my multiple posts on Thailand and how they record mortality rates here - in summary - it is extremely vague and wanting and ultimately extremely inaccurate without detail................3rd world

 

 

https://www.biomedcentral.com/collections/Measuring-mortality-in-Thailand

That article is 10 years old and based on data 15 years ago!

[HHTel]

1 hour ago, sapson said:

All the whoopee do!! Thailand is down to single digits as predicted and we can now buy booze,

 

But 6 people from how many tested 21? or 56? 0r 106? and where exactly are the test results from and in which provinces.

 

With a policy of some testing in just so few areas the low figures are a charade to present to the media and public and justify policies.

 

What about reality with at least a thousand tested in each of the major cities nationwide.??

 

The beer ban being lifted is important because you would have to be slightly under the influence to really believe in your head or heart that these figures released are representative of the real Covid rate for a 70 million population that has a nationwide workforce that was for so many months exposed to the Chinese in the tourist areas of the country before dispersing nationwide.

 

They should re open the beaches!!...... so people can continue to bury their heads in the sand!!!

So how does that fit with Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar and Vietnam.

Vietnam has a population of 95 million.  

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, HHTel said:

That article is 10 years old and based on data 15 years ago!

Thats one of the problems, its impossible to get up to date mortality rates for Thailand they just do not release them, last ones submitted to WHO was 2016

[mac1970]

There is going to be 2nd wave and 3rd wave ++, just need few infected like before and whole show is back. Its not going anywhere unless most of people have immunity, which might take a year+ this speed, medication to keep you out of hospital or vaccine + time to give it, which might take that 1-2 years. They also talk about people without symptoms. We had first test round and only 1% of the group had antipodies, so does not indicate that we have lot of people without symptoms and healed. They will make bigger test round but let's see. Closing does not work as well so people need to go back to work, use masks, be careful and hope the best. Otherwise there is going to be much more worse outcome than this decease ever could cause. 

[DrTuner]

I fail to see the point of these dailies at this point. They will never release the numbers about testing and it's clear the lockdowns are either based on data we will never see, or politically motivated.

 

Usurpers will do what they want anyway, no need for these propaganda pieces.

Edited May 2, 2020 by DrTuner

[HHTel]

Thailand is around 50th on the 'leader board' with around 150 countries and territories below us.

According to posters on here, most of the world must be lying!

[DrTuner]

31 minutes ago, HHTel said:

That article is 10 years old and based on data 15 years ago!

Here's a more recent one and it's quite interesting: http://www.this.or.th/files/6.pdf

 

Quote

Although counting the number of birth and death in country is effective, the quality of information regarding the cause of death (COD) is quite low. There is high proportion of ill-defined and misclassified cause of death.

There are many reasons of the low quality COD. One of them is the limitation of physicians and health professional’s skill on specifying COD from chain of illness. This challenge is now mitigated by in-services training about specifying COD to physicians and health professionals and also the incorporation of the knowledge into pre-service training curriculum.

Other reason of low quality COD is that 60-70% of the deaths occurred outside hospitals.
COD information in death certificate is provided by relative of deceased to village registrar who has no health or medical background. As the result, large number of COD information in civil registration system is ill-defined and questionable. 

 

Should not come as a surprise that Thailand doesn't have an effective IT system for public healthcare. The only system that seems to work well is the civil registration system itself and that IIRC was bought from the US.

Edited May 2, 2020 by DrTuner

[lkv]

10 minutes ago, HHTel said:

According to posters on here, most of the world must be lying!

No, but most of the world does testing on protocols that test symptomatic and generally multiple symptoms.

 

Even in France, where they are getting closer to 200k confirmed, based on antibody testing, they estimate 6% of the population has it/ had it, which would equal 3.6M people. 

 

So that would be x18.

 

In Thailand, where they are even more "stingy" with the testing, we are probably talking x50...x100...x200, who knows.

Edited May 2, 2020 by lkv

[DrTuner]

6 minutes ago, HHTel said:

According to posters on here, most of the world must be lying!

Most of the world, if not all of it, has limited access to the reagents needed in the RT-PCR diagnosis. Manufacturers for those reagents would probably be found in China, US and Germany. Others must wait in line for their supply, meaning very little testing can be done.

[Pedrogaz]

I have been critical of the junta....but they have done an outstanding job here and their prompt response has given Thailand a fantastic result. I guess authoritarians are the right choice for certain types of problem.... 

As an aside whenever they were at war, the Romans suspended their constitution and appointed a dictator to deal with the problem....sometimes one head is better than two.

[smedly]

49 minutes ago, HHTel said:

That article is 10 years old and based on data 15 years ago!

and ?

 

it is exactly how things are done today - nothing has changed, in fact it has probably deteriorated over the last 6 years under total military control 

 

If you think Thailand has suddenly become honest and accountable these last few years you are deluded

 

Thailand is going backwards not forwards - hadn't you noticed 

 

 

this quote below is exactly what I have been saying for weeks, 60-70% of death certification is not performed by qualified people, and currently they have no wish or incentive to do so

 

Other reason of low quality COD is that 60-70% of the deaths occurred outside hospitals.
COD information in death certificate is provided by relative of deceased to village registrar who has no health or medical background. As the result, large number of COD information in civil registration system is ill-defined and questionable. 

Edited May 2, 2020 by smedly

[rkidlad]

10 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

I have been critical of the junta....but they have done an outstanding job here and their prompt response has given Thailand a fantastic result. I guess authoritarians are the right choice for certain types of problem.... 

As an aside whenever they were at war, the Romans suspended their constitution and appointed a dictator to deal with the problem....sometimes one head is better than two.

It’s because of authoritarians that we are in this mess. By nature they try and control the narrative to make themselves look good. It’s what China did at the beginning instead of being honest and shutting things down. And China again, ain’t doing so well right now. Too eager to declare victory and are now suffering second waves. Maybe we could learn from that. 
 

Have you ever known any authoritarian regimes that allow themselves to look bad by being honest? That’s not how it works and that’s the reason this virus spread across the world. Have a look at the University of Southampton’s report on how this all could have been avoided. 

Edited May 2, 2020 by rkidlad