U.S. coronavirus deaths exceed 75,000: Reuters tally

[webfact]

U.S. coronavirus deaths exceed 75,000: Reuters tally

By Lisa Shumaker

 

A worker wipes down surfaces as the MTA Subway closed overnight for cleaning and disinfecting during the outbreak of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in the Brooklyn borough of New York City, U.S., May 7, 2020. REUTERS/Andrew Kelly

 

(Reuters) - U.S. deaths from the novel coronavirus topped 75,000 deaths on Thursday, according to a Reuters tally, after the White House shelved a step-by-step guide prepared by health officials to help states safely reopen.

 

Deaths in the United States, the epicenter of the global pandemic, have averaged 2,000 a day since mid-April despite efforts to slow the outbreak.

The death toll is higher than any fatalities from the seasonal flu going back to 1967 and represents more U.S. deaths than during the first 10 years of the AIDS epidemic, from 1981 to 1991.

 

U.S. cases are over 1.25 million as new infections continue to rise in many states, including Illinois, Maryland, Minnesota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin, according to a Reuters tally and an analysis of historical data from the COVID Tracking Project. New York and New Jersey, the two states with the highest number of cases, have been experiencing declines in new positive cases in recent weeks.

 

Some health experts are predicting a resurgence in deaths later this summer as U.S. states lift stay-at-home orders and Americans begin eating out at restaurants and going to gyms again.

 

The White House shelved a step-by-step guide prepared by U.S. health officials to help states safely reopen mass transit and businesses closed by the coronavirus pandemic, an administration official said on Thursday. This report produced by Chris Dignam.

 

A University of Washington research model https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america often cited by White House officials earlier this week nearly doubled its projected U.S. death toll to over 134,000 by Aug. 4.

 

An internal Trump administration forecast predicted a surge in fatalities to 3,000 a day by the end of May.

 

States are eager to reopen due to surging unemployment rates. About 33.5 million people have filed claims for unemployment benefits since March 21, roughly 22.1% of the working-age population.

 

A 17-page document prepared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was shelved to avoid giving "overly prescriptive" guidance, said a member of President Donald Trump's White House task force.

 

(Writing by Lisa Shumaker; Additional reporting by Christine Chan in New York; Editing by Howard Goller)

 

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[Emdog]

"The White House shelved a step-by-step guide prepared by U.S. health officials..." It was from formerly highly respected worldwide agency Center for Disease Control Their reason for existence is in the name. The report got down into nuts and bolts level of how to deal with reopening.

I defy any Trump backer, or anyone, to explain to me how this is a good move.

I don't hold Trump entirely responsible for the 75k dead Americans. Perhaps 58,000, equal to number killed in Vietnam war.

Find a vid of Twin Towers coming down in 9/11. Watch it 28 times. That's roughly where we are now. Soon may be up to one a day

[metisdead]

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[newnative]

   75,000 deaths and Trump keeps moving the goal posts.  First he said relax there would only be a few deaths.  Oops.   Then said 50,000 deaths would show he's doing a great job.  Then when that total was reached he moved it to 60,000 and now I think he's wised up and says 200,000 dead will be a good outcome for his job handling things.  Meanwhile he outrageously lies that the US has done more testing than the rest of the world combined--while also managing to badly bully a poor nurse--during Nurse Appreciation Week, no less-- who had dared to mention the shortages of PPE.  Just a disgusting human being.

[Siamjim]

REUTERS out of 75,000 how many actually died from C19 and those died with C19? 

[Anant72]

I wonder how many Covid deniers, anti vaccine morons, “sovereign” citizens, mask refuseniks are in hospitals now. 

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, newnative said:

   75,000 deaths and Trump keeps moving the goal posts.  First he said relax there would only be a few deaths.  Oops.   Then said 50,000 deaths would show he's doing a great job.  Then when that total was reached he moved it to 60,000 and now I think he's wised up and says 200,000 dead will be a good outcome for his job handling things.  Meanwhile he outrageously lies that the US has done more testing than the rest of the world combined--while also managing to badly bully a poor nurse--during Nurse Appreciation Week, no less-- who had dared to mention the shortages of PPE.  Just a disgusting human being.

he also said "" it looks like by April, in theory miraculously goes away""

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=trump+quotes+about+coronavirus&fr=yfp-t-s&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe8%2F20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg%2F1200px-20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg.png#id=2&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe8%2F20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg%2F1200px-20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg.png&action=click

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

A University of Washington research model https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america often cited by White House officials earlier this week nearly doubled its projected U.S. death toll to over 134,000 by Aug. 4.

 

by noon tomorrow, the university of washington will officially become "fake news."

[Tug]

He’s shutting down the agency’s that model the expansion of the infections spread trying to keep us in the dark his valet tests positive he freaks out screaming at his staff to protect him but has absolutely no problem sending regular Americans into harms way pathetic is to weak of a word for this man come on November enough allready enough 

[Bluespunk]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

He’s shutting down the agency’s that model the expansion of the infections spread trying to keep us in the dark his valet tests positive he freaks out screaming at his staff to protect him but has absolutely no problem sending regular Americans into harms way pathetic is to weak of a word for this man come on November enough allready enough 

Not just trump’s valet

 

US Vice-President Mike Pence's aide tests positive for coronavirus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52595700

Edited May 8, 2020 by Bluespunk

[candide]

11 hours ago, Mavideol said:

he also said "" it looks like by April, in theory miraculously goes away""

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=trump+quotes+about+coronavirus&fr=yfp-t-s&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe8%2F20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg%2F1200px-20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg.png#id=2&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe8%2F20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg%2F1200px-20200401_Trump_coronavirus_quote_timelines_-_Washington_Post.svg.png&action=click

 

 

I particularly enjoy his last sentence!????

[ChouDoufu]

11 hours ago, Tug said:

He’s shutting down the agency’s that model the expansion of the infections spread trying to keep us in the dark his valet tests positive he freaks out screaming at his staff to protect him but has absolutely no problem sending regular Americans into harms way pathetic is to weak of a word for this man come on November enough allready enough 

 

any day now he's gonna send the 247th panzer brigade to the eastern front to ensure victory by memorial day.

 

i won't link the youtube videos.  you can do that yourselves.  enjoy!

[metisdead]

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[Stargeezr]

With Boris getting the virus, I wonder how many more people around

Trump and Pence get the virus before they do. Just a matter of time?

  WIth so many people getting the virus daily and still not really trying

to social distance, or stay home as much as they can, I think that

America will have thousands more get the virus. I watch the CBS ABC and PBS news

channels and am so glad that I live where I do. I hope that Canada keeps the

border closed for a few months.

Geezer

[GalaxyMan]

On 5/8/2020 at 8:23 AM, webfact said:

Deaths in the United States, the epicenter of the global pandemic, have averaged 2,000 a day since mid-April despite efforts to slow the outbreak. The death toll is higher than any fatalities from the seasonal flu going back to 1967 and represents more U.S. deaths than during the first 10 years of the AIDS epidemic, from 1981 to 1991.

Yet according to Trump, he's doing a great job, the best job of any president in US history. In light of the fact that he considers this whole thing a Democrat hoax, just like the 20+ million lost jobs, all specifically created and calculated to hurt him personally, how would you define doing a terrible job? ????

Edited May 9, 2020 by GalaxyMan

[xylophone]

47 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

Yet according to Trump, he's doing a great job, the best job of any president in US history. In light of the fact that he considers this whole thing a Democrat hoax, just like the 20+ million lost jobs, all specifically created and calculated to hurt him personally, how would you define doing a terrible job? ????

This article is an eye-opener and I urge all TVF members to read it as it shows what should have been done better…..

 

How did the world's most powerful country find itself in such a calamitous position?

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12330741

[ChouDoufu]

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

This article is an eye-opener and I urge all TVF members to read it as it shows what should have been done better…..

 

How did the world's most powerful country find itself in such a calamitous position?

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12330741

there are many interesting articles out today.

can't be fake news, they're linked on drudge.

 

AP Exclusive: Docs show top WH officials buried CDC report

 

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — The decision to shelve detailed advice from the nation’s top disease control experts for reopening communities during the coronavirus pandemic came from the highest levels of the White House, according to internal government emails obtained by The Associated Press.

The files also show that after the AP reported Thursday that the guidance document had been buried, the Trump administration ordered key parts of it to be fast-tracked for approval.

The trove of emails show the nation’s top public health experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spending weeks working on guidance to help the country deal with a public health emergency, only to see their work quashed by political appointees with little explanation.

 

https://apnews.com/9c4d5284ba4769d3b98aa05232201f88

 

Trump flouts coronavirus protocols as security experts warn of need to protect president from a lethal threat

 

Asked by a reporter whether he considered wearing a mask around a group of elderly people who are at a higher risk of the virus, Trump said no.

"I was very far away," he said. "I would have loved to have gone up and hugged them because they're great. I had a conversation with everyone but we were very far away. And the wind was blowing hard in such a direction that if the plague ever reached them, I'd be very surprised."

 

https://www.thehour.com/news/article/Trump-flouts-coronavirus-protocols-as-security-15258104.php

[Tie Dye Samurai]

hmm...I thought all of this was a hoax that was going to magically vanish because the current US administration had everything under control as long as we got disinfectant in our lungs "for a good cleaning" and shined a flashlight up our butts...and if those damn 50 governors going in 50 different directions would just get it right while Trump is "The Nation's Cheerleader"...

 

Give me a G

Give me a O 

Give me a V

Give me...

 

ah screw it...

[ChouDoufu]

a new NOT YET peer-reviewed study.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.15.20066431v2.full.pdf+html

 

some news sites are saying us deaths could have been cut in half if the us had acted 4 days sooner.

 

we can blame obama for not keeping the national strategic bleach reserve topped up.

[spidermike007]

And so much of this could have been avoided had he acted quickly and decisively, and demonstrated the courage he always talks about, but never has possessed. The Native American saying " it is far easier to be brave, from a distance", almost seems like it was written for Trump. 

 

The world looks on with pity, despair and bewilderment, as the virus rages on in the US, and Trump gets his coveted #1 position. For all the wrong reasons. 

 

Don Donald. Moving America backwards at an alarming pace. Making sure the US loses it's remaining long earned prestige. 

[transam]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

And so much of this could have been avoided had he acted quickly and decisively, and demonstrated the courage he always talks about, but never has possessed. The Native American saying " it is far easier to be brave, from a distance", almost seems like it was written for Trump. 

 

The world looks on with pity, despair and bewilderment, as the virus rages on in the US, and Trump gets his coveted #1 position. For all the wrong reasons. 

 

Don Donald. Moving America backwards at an alarming pace. Making sure the US loses it's remaining long earned prestige. 

Total tosh..................????

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[Traubert]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Total tosh..................????

Yeah, despair and bewilderment I can go along with..........

[Sujo]

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

And so much of this could have been avoided had he acted quickly and decisively, and demonstrated the courage he always talks about, but never has possessed. The Native American saying " it is far easier to be brave, from a distance", almost seems like it was written for Trump. 

 

The world looks on with pity, despair and bewilderment, as the virus rages on in the US, and Trump gets his coveted #1 position. For all the wrong reasons. 

 

Don Donald. Moving America backwards at an alarming pace. Making sure the US loses it's remaining long earned prestige. 

Right on point. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 hours ago, candide said:

I particularly enjoy his last sentence!????

 I think he's preparing to declare "victory" and "job well done" again when the U.S. death toll hits 100,000...  

 

Which at the rate things are currently going, should be in about two weeks from now (given the current rate of about 2,000 U.S. deaths per day).

 

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 I think he's preparing to declare "victory" and "job well done" again when the U.S. death toll hits 100,000...  

 

Which at the rate things are currently going, should be in about two weeks from now (given the current rate of about 2,000 U.S. deaths per day).

 

that's the current rate.

now factor in liberating and reopening each state.

 

Some health experts are predicting a resurgence in deaths later this summer as U.S. states lift stay-at-home orders and Americans begin eating out at restaurants and going to gyms again.

 

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by ChouDoufu

[Mama Noodle]

Laughable that the partisans in this thread blame Trump for New York's abject failure at managing Coronavirus. 

 

Its becoming clearer by the day at how the state fails to manage its resources putting people in harms way, accounting for a massive portion of overall US deaths. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Laughable that the partisans in this thread blame Trump for New York's abject failure at managing Coronavirus. 

 

Its becoming clearer by the day at how the state fails to manage its resources putting people in harms way, accounting for a massive portion of overall US deaths. 

 

New York wasn't responsible for letting virus carriers into the country.

 

New York wasn't responsible for a National Stockpile of medical equipment that was totally inadequate and had a lot of non-working or out of date supplies.

 

New York wasn't responsible for the U.S. having, and still having, a national shortage of PPE and other equipment, leaving health care workers and first responders exposed to the virus, with many becoming sick as a result.

 

New York State wasn't responsible for the U.S. failing in the early going to develop and deploy a diagnostic test for CV that would have allowed earlier detection of just where the virus was present.

 

New York State wasn't responsible for telling the American people that the virus was nothing to worry about and everything was under control....then later promoting quack/false cures and medicines.

 

I could go on.... but I'm not going to spend the next 24 hours completing the list of all the things NY wasn't responsible for ... but Trump and the federal government were.

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

New York wasn't responsible for letting virus carriers into the country.

Excuse me? New York angling for tourists in March and DeBlasio was calling for people to go out and enjoy themselves. 

 

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

New York wasn't responsible for a National Stockpile of medical equipment that was totally inadequate and had a lot of non-working or out of date supplies.

 

???? Nobody that needed a ventilator was unable to get one. A separate issue that has nothing to do with the states infection and death rate. 

 

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

New York wasn't responsible for the U.S. having, and still having, a national shortage of PPE and other equipment, leaving health care workers and first responders exposed to the virus, with many becoming sick as a result.

 

Still nothing to do with their overall infection and death rate. 

 

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I could go on.... but I'm not going to spend the next 24 hours completing the list of all the things NY wasn't responsible for ... but Trump and the federal government were.

 

Yep we all know that according to the Trump haters and the false equivalence crew everything that happens is Trumps fault and that local states have zero culpability in their own management. 

 

Your whole post is a deflection of NY's failure. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, ChouDoufu said:

The trove of emails show the nation’s top public health experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spending weeks working on guidance to help the country deal with a public health emergency, only to see their work quashed by political appointees with little explanation.

 

This is one of the sad hallmarks of the Trump Admin -- a president who doesn't believe in science, medicine or topic experts.

 

And who then proceeds to fill his government's leadership with political ideologues who only can stay in their jobs by catering to Trump's misguided and often bizarre whims, while they ignore the advice they're being given by career professionals in their fields.

 

Government by stupidity and ignorance. And the results are apparent.