1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Or they could open the borders. allow in any tourists, and have the same sort of figures the UK enjoy.

 

Way to go ezzra!

 

Agreed. Ezzra gets it. If we are going to get beyond this as a species, we all need to contract this virus so we can develop herd immunity and get beyond this lockdown foolishness. No sense in putting it off.

 

The faster everyone gets sick, the faster we can get back to reality.  Very few people will actually die from this virus relative to the deaths that are going to come from the economic and social blowback of this stupid lockdown and containment approach we have taken.

 

Just make sure the health facilities are not overwhelmed and open up. Only reintroduce restrictions if the medical resources start to buckle under the strain.

 

Can someone please remind me how many people have died in total from Wuhan Flu in Thailand, and how many people died yesterday in car/motorbike accidents in Thailand?

3 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Can someone please remind me how many people have died in total from Wuhan Flu in Thailand, and how many people died yesterday in car/motorbike accidents in Thailand?

Probably about the same.......????

2 hours ago, Spellforce said:

I know too many thai people in Pattaya who are starving now.

I start to have an unsafe feeling now. I hope they will at least allow 1st of jully the chinese tourists to come back.

Hopefully they’re vegetarians.

2 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

 

Like i said, they had 1600 cases yesterday. That is a stark difference to your claim they had 10,000 - which is false. They have never had anywhere 10,000 infections a day, which is a gross exaggerated lie. 

 

As i said the UK has carried out nearly 5 million tests on the population, with them now ramping up to 200,000 a day. Antibody tests rolling out next week. Thailand meanwhile has only carried out 400,000 tests in total, and zero antibody tests. Both similar populations sizes.

 

The UK rate is also high because of the problems they have had in care homes for the elderly. 

 

That's why no one can really be sure how many people in Thailand actually had the disease. But it's fair to say it's has not succumbed to the pandemic like many European countries. Be it luck, climate, health of the population (namely weight issues), density of the cities they have done well. 

 

 

a big ratio in the UK are ethnic cases but its not known why ,quite apart from care homes

28 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

You really do set the bar very low,don’t you?

I think any bar will suffice 

Hopefully that situation will be warning for many people who want to retire here and try to build life. Before your girlfriend /wife can betray you. Ok . Can accept and move on. Have some money not big problem if people learn from one case. But when government try to betray you. Then no chance to move furthermore. Why betray. Look your self. People who buy elite visa for big money. What happen to then now? And much more no needs to explain. Everyone knows.

6 hours ago, JCP108 said:

In the same boat. I must travel from Thailand to the U.S. in the near future for family matters. Right now, looks like I will not be able to return for some time

 

Same here.

 

My concern re this "fourth quarter' business is that by then the US will quite likely be having its second wave.  So I would not bank on being able to travel then. If things do open up, go as quickly as possible is my plan in hopes of getting back before second wave is noticeable

Many people have fun/joke here. But this is not a joke. That very serious!!!!

1 hour ago, Jazzius said:

What is LOS? (Other than the airport code for Lagos, Nigeria?)

Land of Smirk

10 minutes ago, Monomial said:

 

 

 

Just make sure the health facilities are not overwhelmed and open up. Only reintroduce restrictions if the medical resources start to buckle under the strain.

 

 

If you wait until the medical system is already buckling it is way, way, way  too late.

 

Remember that lockdowns and other measures take at least 2 weeks to take effect and during those 2 weeks cases continue to rise. And it is an exponential; rise.

 

This was New York City's great mistake. It has been estimated that had measures started just 10 days sooner more than half the deaths would have been averted. As it was, the health care system did nto just buckle, it was completely overwhelmed. People died in corridors, hallways, and (in very large numbers) at home for lack of medical attention. And not just from COVID, from everything,

 

Of course, if measures are initiated in time to avert a scenario like this, one can never tell if things stayed minor because of the measures or if it was not going to have been that bad in that particular place anyhow.

 

A public health success is something that does not happen.   Which makes it hard to distinguish from simpel good luck.

 

Public health fauilures, on the other hand, are glaringly obvious.

14 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Dutch husband (I know, but try to keep up), and on just her second visit there she is allowed to stay in that country with a five-year visa. Just a little bit different to Thai rules

Just as well for her that the Dutch husband is not Australian husband

If Songkran does go ahead as stated from 4th to 9th of July, then I can be assured that there will be no bars open before then and an alcohol ban will be re-imposed to ensure that the number of deaths on the road will be vastly reduced as happened in the week from 12 - 17 April 2020 :-)

 

1 hour ago, Trolleen said:

Before I thought to buy elite visa  when thai baht was low and Norwegian money hight. Lucky did not do it. Pay 20.000.000 for 20 years and stay under restrictions in phuket krabi samui. Good choice? 

It's just a glorified tourist visa. I have it. To their credit, they added 6 months to the validity due to covid.

 

The minimum for any sort of security would be permanent residence. Not available without working and paying taxes.

10 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Sounds like they are thinking smartly and trying to do the right thing here.

Thais thinking smartly??

10 hours ago, ezzra said:

Meaning that the Thai tourism industry will continue to be in the crapper and millions who depends on it for their survival will continue to suffer and lose their life's works and investments witch will take years to recover from, way to go PM...

Just like anywhere else in the world. Except Sweden, UK  of course. But nobody wants to go there anyway.

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It's just a glorified tourist visa. I have it. To their credit, they added 6 months to the validity due to covid.

 

The minimum for any sort of security would be permanent residence. Not available without working and paying taxes.

People holding PR and or work permits have been kept out for 2 months.

Pretty backward nationalistic policy and medically unsound.

 

The government give opportunity to everyone of you and me to stay in Thailand quietly. But you European people were never happy. Mix with politics.

Government says : retire and enjoy your  life. No that not happen . People want more and more. Government is no good. This and that no good. Retire and enjoy your life. 

No . You did not do. Criticize president. What he do how you want him to do. Who are you? Perminent d residents or maybe thai citizens.

That's why no one want European people anymore. Get one thing ,but not happy want more and more.

You people crash your selves and us who want to live peacefully.

Now what can we do?

48 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Can someone please remind me how many people have died in total from Wuhan Flu in Thailand, and how many people died yesterday in car/motorbike accidents in Thailand?

People die at a relatively manageable rate across the whole country from car/motorbike accidents. Covid has the potential to overwhelm any local medical infrastructure with many people requiring ventilation, intensive care etc if is allowed to spread unchecked. The two things are not the same.  

8 hours ago, Enzian said:

And by the same token, it looks like I am locked IN Thailand for practically the foreseeable future.

Rather be here than back in the states

Do not mix with politics. If people die is the government problem. Not my or yours!!!!!!!!.

Stay and enjoy o y your work and life. But now is more likely to late.

 

 

Idiots

7 hours ago, JCP108 said:

With or without a method, they will remove the 14-day quarantine for Chinese travelers or I will eat my hat. 

I hope its not a helmet. No, more likely to be a tinfoil hat. Happy eating!

Hey Bangkok Barry and Dr Jack - Your comments on Hungarian/Oz Immigration are interesting, to me at least. My brother (now retired) was a senior public servant in Centrelink (the dole office in Oz) and was sent to Hungary at Oz govt. expense (yes we taxpayers paid for it) to set up their dole/welfare system, some years ago just before his retirement. He was there for a year. He told me that it was a fantastic place (who knew) and, that their immigration system in particular seemed to be geared to helping people and attracting foreign retirees, but was really painless to go through. Their social welfare system is based on the Oz model, so they have the dole for those really in need (and a few bludgers too I guess). Sounds like the total opposite of LOS ha ha ! I also note that the report says that 'both the Oz and NZ govt. have made overtures to the Thais to open up for visitors from both places ASAP". Useless for me/us if there are no airlines flying in or out of Oz. 

5 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

The should keep arrivals under quarantine at least until the end of this year

Sod that. 2 weeks quarantine is doable, 6 months, no way!

4 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

with 10,000 new cases a day in the UK and a few other countries I sure hope the wall is built high..

Try 1650 new cases today. You do exaggerate.....555

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

Basically he has inferred that the situation will be monitored and should it be deemed safe to allow tourism again then Khun Prayut will act. 

 

" He added that only tourists from certain countries may be allowed to visit Thailand - namely countries where the COVID-19 outbreak is deemed to be under control.

And any tourists that are allowed to travel to Thailand will only be able to do so under a number of restrictions. "

Good job by Khun Prayut Chan O Cha.

 

Did you apply for citizenship ?

36 minutes ago, bigupandchill said:

People die at a relatively manageable rate across the whole country from car/motorbike accidents. Covid has the potential to overwhelm any local medical infrastructure with many people requiring ventilation, intensive care etc if is allowed to spread unchecked. The two things are not the same.  

You shouldn't have to explain that but thank you for trying.

1 hour ago, Advocatus Diaboli said:

. If Songkran does go ahead as stated from 4th to 9th of July, do you think they will open up the Bars before that period? A good guess says no.

A terrible guess says no. I have talked to 3 people in the bar trade in Pattaya who have all indicated June 14th. Government says July 1st or thereabouts. I'm on the ground in Pattaya, lots of indications that its imminent.

8 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Try 1650 new cases today. You do exaggerate.....555

17:00 is the  time where he talks about the UK - believe what you like..