How much longer before farang have to give up their seats on buses for Thais? What point would you leave?

[sidjameson]

 

White people no longer allowed to pray to Buddha with Thais!!!!!

 

 

I posted the photo of the sign at Wat Pho that said “Only Thai People” on my Facebook page. I just noticed that it has now been seen by 165,432 people from arou

 

From Richard Barrow.

 

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/06/11/bus-operator-confirms-ban-on-foreign-travelers-in-pandemic/

 

White people no longer allowed to travel on buses with Thais.

 

If you think its for tourists only I suggest you rock up and explain you live here and see how far you get.

 

How much more do you have to be discriminated against before you would say enough is enough and leave?

[CorpusChristie]

I do feel that you are over reacting somewhat .

These are just emergency measures during the pandemic , its nothing to do with racial discrimination for that purpose , they are taking measures because of Covid  

[Puchaiyank]

There are many travel options to choose from...it is immigration that needs to become more farang friendly in order to keep and attract longterm retirees...????

[asiasurfer]

I think this is not enough yet to protect the Thais from an evil virus. They should also ban foreigners from domestic flights (except airplanes leaving the country). Farangs should also be banned from any larger Shopping Malls. Also, don't let them driving on the road even if it's their own vehicle! Now that's more efficient! Actually leave them in permanent quarantine at home even better. If they work, let them only travel to and from work. And don't forget to leave your hard earned cash with your Thai spouse or in another Thai bank account!

 

Seriously, I would have been out here since a long time if I didn't have my family and my job here. Also my own home country isn't much better. ????

[baansgr]

22 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

There are many travel options to choose from...it is immigration that needs to become more farang friendly in order to keep and attract longterm retirees...????

Friendly enough in Jomtien..they take 1,900 and stamp me for a year and smile...

[richard_smith237]

It's enough already....  Not being able to return to Thailand to my family is significant enough to understand that the family unit (if with a foreigner) is not valued and I run the risk of being separated from my family if there are any further outbreaks, second waves, new viruses etc.

 

The excess charges for the national parks and other attempts at double pricing was one issue I didn't like for the outrageous clumsiness, but tolerated. What I am hearing / reading more of is growing announcements of what could be described as 'state sponsored xenophobia' which once spread through society would making living in Thailand a less enjoyable experience for Westerners.

 

Has Thailand lost its charm? this has been an ongoing discussion for well over a decade. Modernisation and development certainly changes the character of a place. We also develop and our attitudes change.

 

What we are prepared to put up with and tolerate is a very individual concept, more recently I found myself tolerating more than I was prepared to put up with and that is the singular facet of never being absolutely sure I could return home after one of my many frequent trips overseas. 

 

 

 

 

 

[redwood1]

Any one who thinks the Thais only signs are not racist........Then there is no way you can say these signs are racist either...

 

 

 

 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

I do feel that you are over reacting somewhat .

These are just emergency measures during the pandemic , its nothing to do with racial discrimination for that purpose , they are taking measures because of Covid  

How, the borders are closed to farangs, only thais allowed in. So its more likely a thai would have the virus.

 

its racism pure and simple.

[Sujo]

42 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Friendly enough in Jomtien..they take 1,900 and stamp me for a year and smile...

As long as you dont want to go and do anything.

[samran]

5 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Any one who thinks the Thais only signs are not racist........Then there is no way you can say these signs are racist either...

 

 

 

 

I can go down this weekend with my blond haired blue eyed wife and daughters. We all have Thai ID cards. If they don't let us in, then you'll be right.

 

If they do, then you'll be wrong. It won't make the move any less stupid, but it will be the difference between racism (which I take seriously) vs straight out nationalism (which I also have issues with).

[Metropolitian]

 

It's spreading as a flock of swallows lol

[Sujo]

25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

It's enough already....  Not being able to return to Thailand to my family is significant enough to understand that the family unit (if with a foreigner) is not valued and I run the risk of being separated from my family if there are any further outbreaks, second waves, new viruses etc.

 

The excess charges for the national parks and other attempts at double pricing was one issue I didn't like for the outrageous clumsiness, but tolerated. What I am hearing / reading more of is growing announcements of what could be described as 'state sponsored xenophobia' which once spread through society would making living in Thailand a less enjoyable experience for Westerners.

 

Has Thailand lost its charm? this has been an ongoing discussion for well over a decade. Modernisation and development certainly changes the character of a place. We also develop and our attitudes change.

 

What we are prepared to put up with and tolerate is a very individual concept, more recently I found myself tolerating more than I was prepared to put up with and that is the singular facet of never being absolutely sure I could return home after one of my many frequent trips overseas. 

 

 

 

 

 

Which is why, when deciding where to stay in asia i chose not to stay in thailand.

[PerkinsCuthbert]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How, the borders are closed to farangs, only thais allowed in. So its more likely a thai would have the virus.

 

its racism pure and simple.

I don't think it's intelligent enough to be racism, it's just bone ignorance and stupidity.

[samran]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How, the borders are closed to farangs, only thais allowed in. So its more likely a thai would have the virus.

 

its racism pure and simple.

There are foreigners coming in, have been for a couple of weeks. All with work permits and doing 14 day quarantine at hotels.

[saakura]

Reverse apartheid. 

[amexpat]

23 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How, the borders are closed to farangs, only thais allowed in. So its more likely a thai would have the virus.

 

its racism pure and simple.

Most (all?) countries are allowing their citizens to return.  

My mama says simple is as simple says. Purely. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by amexpat
countries

[NanLaew]

Aha! I've found the panty bunchers thread!

[Traubert]

You can try........????????

[poohy]

23 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

I don't think it's intelligent enough to be racism, it's just bone ignorance and stupidity.

I came here 21 years ago met a wise dutch guy who spoke and read and wrote Thai ..i was in awe

His lasting words to me

Their ignorance is only matched by their stupidity  

 

I learnt he was not wrong!

[nightfox]

Cry me a river..... Its 1 bus company out of who knows how may in Thailand that you cant ride on their bus as plenty other bus companies that will take a farangs money. Same goes with praying to Budha with Thais as plenty of other places where you can be one with Budha and ride a bus to get you there.

Edited June 11, 2020 by nightfox

[chickenslegs]

15 minutes ago, samran said:

There are foreigners coming in, have been for a couple of weeks. All with work permits and doing 14 day quarantine at hotels.

And, in the unlikely event that these foreigners want to travel on a "The Transport Co." bus (a state enterprise), they will be refused a seat.

Thais returning from the same countries, and having to undergo the same quarantine, will be permitted to travel on "The Transport Co." buses.

Thais who have not left the country during this covid pandemic can travel on these buses. Foreigners who have not left the country will be refused a seat.

Okay, it's a rather petty issue which doesn't affect many of us "dirty foreigners", but it can't be denied that this is discrimination (by a state enterprise) solely on the basis of nationality.

 

 

[samran]

2 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

And, in the unlikely event that these foreigners want to travel on a "The Transport Co." bus (a state enterprise), they will be refused a seat.

Thais returning from the same countries, and having to undergo the same quarantine, will be permitted to travel on "The Transport Co." buses.

Thais who have not left the country during this covid pandemic can travel on these buses. Foreigners who have not left the country will be refused a seat.

Okay, it's a rather petty issue which doesn't affect many of us "dirty foreigners", but it can't be denied that this is discrimination (by a state enterprise) solely on the basis of nationality.

 

 

Calm down tiger, I agree with you.

 

I was simply making the point that eligible foreigners have been allowed back into Thailand in recent weeks based on personal knowledge of a couple who have. 

[madmen]

58 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How, the borders are closed to farangs, only thais allowed in. So its more likely a thai would have the virus.

 

its racism pure and simple.

You mean like NZ and Australia? Foreigners blocked There are many many others. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by madmen

[chickenslegs]

6 minutes ago, samran said:

Calm down tiger, I agree with you.

 

I was simply making the point that eligible foreigners have been allowed back into Thailand in recent weeks based on personal knowledge of a couple who have. 

No disagreement. I was just using your post to indicate that foreigners permitted to enter Thailand are treated differently to Thais.

Sorry if it came across as something else.

[timendres]

OP: Maybe you need to head to the US and join the riots. Since the "policies" that you highlight did not exist before the pandemic, one can safely assume they are in response to it. Intelligent, or not, you can debate. But racist it is not.

 

1 hour ago, redwood1 said:

Any one who thinks the Thais only signs are not racist........Then there is no way you can say these signs are racist either...

 

 

The difference being that Black Americans were citizens of the country segregating them. We have the choice to go home.

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by timendres

[timendres]

59 minutes ago, poohy said:

I came here 21 years ago met a wise dutch guy who spoke and read and wrote Thai ..i was in awe

His lasting words to me

Their ignorance is only matched by their stupidity  

 

I learnt he was not wrong!

Having done business with Thais for years, I can assure you that there are some pretty savvy Thais who could give you a run for your money. Likewise, it you care to look for it, ignorance and stupidity is not in short supply in my own country.

[spidermike007]

Rather than buying into the standard and rather tired narrative, how about this one? For many of us who are white men, this sort of allows us a glimpse into the black (or people of color) mindset in many nations. Especially in the past when we as a race subjugated millions to horrendous treatment, and outright ownership, due to little more than the color of their skin. 

 

I know alot of white men will find this suggestion offensive. And so? Perspective can be a beautiful and useful tool. So, let's flip this scenario on its head. In general I think we are over rated as a race, so why not?

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by spidermike007

[spidermike007]

And considering the extent to which Europe and the US blew the response to Covid, it is likely we will be seen as "a bit radioactive" for the next year or so. So what? Kind of fun playing Zombie farang!

[Puchaiyank]

2 hours ago, baansgr said:

Friendly enough in Jomtien..they take 1,900 and stamp me for a year and smile...

Not talking about the smiles...the volume of redundant paperwork could be reduced and still have everything they need.

[tlandtday]

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

And considering the extent to which Europe and the US blew the response to Covid, it is likely we will be seen as "a bit radioactive" for the next year or so. So what? Kind of fun playing Zombie farang!

And china didn't????? Do you think the chinese will be banned from the buses?