Niece failed to qualify for nursing, what next?

[notrub]

05 07 2020

 

Ongoing saga, re: my niece getting into university.  My niece applied at several universities here in Isaan and was not able to qualify for the few places available.  Several hundreds applying for several dozen places open.  In Nakhon Ratchasima, Buriram and someplace near Khon Kean.  Now that she has not gained a place for nursing is there any way that she can continue to study a different subject?  My wonderful partner advises me that every university everywhere for every subject is full and even if they were not, it is too late to apply for admission.  Is this true?  (Sadly her approach to any/every problem begins with 'impossible' and we go nowhere from there)  My experience about universities in Thailand is virtually non existent but I do have some knowledge of how they work in the west.   It seems to me that she would be better off enrolling to study any sort of soft subject just to keep her mind academically active and re apply for nursing next year.  She is bright enough and healthy and honest but the numbers of others who want what she does are just too great.  I would not mind paying if that were the only option (rather not to, if poss).  Any ideas please?  Prefer not going to BKK if it could be avoided.  Thanks very much in advance.

[mike787]

You're right, keep her busy.

[VocalNeal]

Navy or air force hospitals?

 

 

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Directorate of Medical Services[edit]

First set up in 1913 in the same year as the Air Force, providing nursing services only, and over the years has gradually expanded. It operates Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital and Royal Thai Air Force Hospital in Bangkok, as well as smaller hospitals at each wing. The directorate has made a teaching agreement with the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University to train students at Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, accepting about 30 students per academic year.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by VocalNeal

[damascase]

Might be slightly off-topic, but out of sheer curiosity: is ‘nursing’ a University study here in Thailand, is it regarded as an academic subject?

[RichardColeman]

Could take a year out getting some experience in a care home maybe, to see if she actually likes the other side of it

[4reaL]

Lampang is a big Nursing School town, not sure how well Isaan ppl are integrated there but can check.

[Farma]

Maybe look at private universities offering nursing courses.

[dddave]

My GF's neice was in a similar situation.  Number 1 in her HS graduating class but could not obtain a reasonably large schlorship for med school.  Politically connected #5 kid in her class got that.  

She applied to and got into the Univeresity in Maha Sarakham and was excepted into their science program: forensics.  She had a bit of a hic-up senior year passing organic chemistry but 6 months of tutoring helped her to pass.  She has taken several Civil Service exams and is hoping for a position soon.

 

The University in Maha Sarakham is huge: 30,000+ students.  Nice campus and a lot of inexpensive housing available.  Her final year, she got a very nice room in a newly built building for less than B2600/mo.  From what she says, it's not that hard to get into.  Perhaps your neice should check it out.

Edited July 5, 2020 by dddave

[dddave]

40 minutes ago, damascase said:

Might be slightly off-topic, but out of sheer curiosity: is ‘nursing’ a University study here in Thailand, is it regarded as an academic subject?

University nursing programs are usually affiliated with a local government hospital.  One girl I know got her BS in Nursing at a Bangkok University (not sure which one) then went into a training program at Chulalongkorn Hospital for 2 years.

Edited July 5, 2020 by dddave

[Bender Rodriguez]

don't you have to apply weeks or months before uni starts ?

 

did you/she PASS the test ?  You/she can pass & uni / school can be full

 

or you / she failed = not qualified for the job / studies...

[thequietman]

There shud be a place for her at a Raji, no probs.

[damascase]

1 hour ago, dddave said:

University nursing programs are usually affiliated with a local government hospital.  One girl I know got her BS in Nursing at a Bangkok University (not sure which one) then went into a training program at Chulalongkorn Hospital for 2 years.

Thanks, but what I do not understand that nursing - apparently - is an academic study In Thailand. It certainly isn’t in my home country.

[Don Mega]

6 minutes ago, damascase said:

Thanks, but what I do not understand that nursing - apparently - is an academic study In Thailand. It certainly isn’t in my home country.

Bachelor of nursing perhaps ?

 

such a thing exists in my home country so maybe it does here too.

[n00dle]

17 minutes ago, damascase said:

Thanks, but what I do not understand that nursing - apparently - is an academic study In Thailand. It certainly isn’t in my home country.

It most certainly is in us, uk, nz, aus, canada etc, I am sure aboit the eu.

 

Assistant nurses may not need university qualifications, and there are different levels involved in nursing but most countries I have worked or lived require a basic college degree in nursing.

[steve187]

2 hours ago, damascase said:

Might be slightly off-topic, but out of sheer curiosity: is ‘nursing’ a University study here in Thailand, is it regarded as an academic subject?

nursing can be a uni course in the UK

[damascase]

1 hour ago, n00dle said:

It most certainly is in us, uk, nz, aus, canada etc, I am sure aboit the eu.

 

Assistant nurses may not need university qualifications, and there are different levels involved in nursing but most countries I have worked or lived require a basic college degree in nursing.

Yes, I do know about the different levels. I associate universities with academic studies, not with vocational education. In my home country the highest level to study nursing is a vocational college.

[KhaoNiaw]

16 minutes ago, damascase said:

Yes, I do know about the different levels. I associate universities with academic studies, not with vocational education. In my home country the highest level to study nursing is a vocational college.

My niece is doing nursing at university in the UK.

You'll find that most universities, definitely private ones anyway, will be accepting applications even for a couple of weeks after the semester starts. Competition between universities for 'customers' is fairly intense these days so I'd be really surprised if you couldn't find anywhere that would accept her. 

[Airalee]

21 minutes ago, damascase said:

Yes, I do know about the different levels. I associate universities with academic studies, not with vocational education. In my home country the highest level to study nursing is a vocational college.

What is your home country?  In the US, it goes all the way up to a masters in nursing and is even offered at prestigious universities such as Johns Hopkins, Yale, University of Pennsylvania etc.  Then, if they wish to become a Nurse Practitioner they can go on for further education.

[marin]

18 hours ago, notrub said:

My wonderful partner advises me that every university everywhere for every subject is full and even if they were not, it is too late to apply for admission. 

This is not true. For the last few years there have not been enough students applying to universities and seats in all faculties are going empty.  Have a look.

 

http://www.en.moe.go.th/enMoe2017/index.php/articles/277-thai-universities-struggle-to-keep-up

[JimHuaHin]

My ex recently applied for entry into a nursing degree programme up north, and was told at the interview that there were 22 applicants for each position available.

[steven100]

17 hours ago, dddave said:

The University in Maha Sarakham

Try this one .....  give them a call and find out what is possible.

[ChipButty]

Join the Army and after basic training go into the medical corp

[beavenlen]

the government hospital in Ubon Ratchathani is i believe a teaching hospital,might be worth talking to somebody there,trainy auxillary may be better than wasting time elsewhere

[herfiehandbag]

16 hours ago, damascase said:

Thanks, but what I do not understand that nursing - apparently - is an academic study In Thailand. It certainly isn’t in my home country.

It is in the UK, and in many other Western countries.

Whether it should be, of course, is open to discussion!

[lagavulin1]

Ditto my neice. At Udon uni nurses school in Nong Sung they took exams. Top X in exams offered places. My neice wasX+5. There is a second nursing course at the main Udon Uni. Places are reserved by paying a fee. My neice got a place on that. She started monday so not sure if its an option still. 

Drawback is it doesn't qualify for full nursing. More like nursing assistant is the best Mrs E could explain it. Might be worth asking? 

Cheers P. 

 

[thaiowl]

16 hours ago, n00dle said:

It most certainly is in us, uk, nz, aus, canada etc, I am sure aboit the eu.

 

Assistant nurses may not need university qualifications, and there are different levels involved in nursing but most countries I have worked or lived require a basic college degree in nursing.

My daughter has just graduated with a Bachelor of Nursing degree from the University of Sydney. Three-year course.

[Kurtf]

17 hours ago, damascase said:

Thanks, but what I do not understand that nursing - apparently - is an academic study In Thailand. It certainly isn’t in my home country.

Don't know what country you come from but yes it requires an academic nursing degree in Thailand as well as in most Western countries. In America you can become a nurses aide with a 2 year degree but to become a full fledged nurse requires a bachelors degree. Seem logical to me since they have peoples lives in their hands. I wouldn't want some dimwit with barely a HS degree in that realm of responsibility.

[flbkk]

Look at Ramkhanhaeng Uni in Bangkok also search for “open university thailand “

[Jane Dough]

A situation like this is crying out for a gap year. My daughter couldn't get what she wanted and went into a related field to do work before starting uni. Don't rush young people - encourage them that there are many years ahead and experience in a wide range of fields bears dividends. 

 

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[AgMech Cowboy]

23 hours ago, notrub said:

Sadly her approach to any/every problem begins with 'impossible' and we go nowhere from there

My wife uses that approach on many things, too. It was especially useful when I told she would have to get a job. "Too old, impossible" She's 39 and looks like 29.  Sorry, I know off topic. Good Luck!!