How many go-go-bars will survive the next months?

[Orton Rd]

1 minute ago, rott said:

I am not normally a customer at these places, but they are a part of the world here for farang. 

But at the prices quoted here they deserve a few problems. 

Yes for farang sex tourists, adulters and losers who never seem to catch on that most of the girls actualy despise them.

[steven100]

How many go-go-bars will survive the next months?

probably none as there won't be any customers.

no customer = no money = no rent = no staff = close

Edited July 8, 2020 by blackcab
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[steven100]

4 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Yes for farang sex tourists, adulters and losers who never seem to catch on that most of the girls actualy despise them.

no ... but they say ' your the only one '  and they love them

[Susco]

9 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

10 to 15k depending on the bar, plus 100 to 250 lady drinks plus 10 to 15 bar fines.

 

Bars that pay 10 - 15K salary the girls will have to make probably 300 lady drinks ( don't know the exact number ) before they earn that 15K, and they will only earn a percentage on the drinks above that  exceed that number.

 

The bar owner get the bar fines, not the girl

 

Maybe you thought all gogo girls are multi millionaires?

Edited July 8, 2020 by Susco

[Stadtler]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What is your opinion?

You have much too much time on your hands for things that don't matter.

[eeworldwide]

7 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Who cares if they all close, over priced booze and over priced prostitutes, strictly for the sex tourist, a dying breed.

100% agree. 

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Bars that pay 10 - 15K salary the girls will have to make probably 300 lady drinks ( don't know the exact number ) before they earn that 15K, and they will only earn a percentage on the drinks above that  exceed that number.

 

The bar owner get the bar fines, not the girl

 

Maybe you thought all gogo girls are multi millionaires?

I didn't say that the girls get the bar fine, just quoted what is is. And yes I know that the girls get a percentage of the lady drinks, I've been around the scene long enough.

 

Some of the girls in the higher end go go bars are getting 100,000+ per month or they were before the lockdown. Even some freelancers I know were making 50 to 60k a month.

[bitterbatter]

This goes way beyond GO GO bars.  Everyday more and more regulations.  There are people, whom I can't name, that only care about power.  This isn't about safety, it's about tyranny at its heart.  
Whenever people used to ask me, 'Why do I love Thailand?"

I answered, "Because of the freedom"
Those days are now gone.
People think that things will return to normal. I don't think so.  It is very difficult to unring that bell.
How often do you see governments get rid of laws?  Almost never, they just keep adding more and more.
On the surface the reasons always sound like good ideas.  But rarely are all the angles considered.  Anymore, whoever screams the loudest in the controlled media, gets what they want.  And these are usually the most emotionally unhinged, irrational, idiots you could meet.  
I cannot believe how quickly a few people can destroy a country.  
Shutting down a whole country indefinitely because the WHO says to do it?  For a fatality rate of 0.0000002?  More people die from tripping on stairs, a lot more. Way more people die from a head cold.  Why don't you just make death illegal?
Just 7 years ago, people were outspoken and took a stand for their political beliefs.  Now there is silence, and pent up frustration.
It is very sad to watch this happen.  
Live and let live.  A few simple principles to guide us is a far better solution, than a million DO NOT's.  If you give up you liberty, for safety, then you don't deserve either.  I will take dangerous freedom over being safe every time.

[tribalfusion001]

6 minutes ago, bitterbatter said:

This goes way beyond GO GO bars.  Everyday more and more regulations.  There are people, whom I can't name, that only care about power.  This isn't about safety, it's about tyranny at its heart.  
Whenever people used to ask me, 'Why do I love Thailand?"

I answered, "Because of the freedom"
Those days are now gone.
People think that things will return to normal. I don't think so.  It is very difficult to unring that bell.
How often do you see governments get rid of laws?  Almost never, they just keep adding more and more.
On the surface the reasons always sound like good ideas.  But rarely are all the angles considered.  Anymore, whoever screams the loudest in the controlled media, gets what they want.  And these are usually the most emotionally unhinged, irrational, idiots you could meet.  
I cannot believe how quickly a few people can destroy a country.  
Shutting down a whole country indefinitely because the WHO says to do it?  For a fatality rate of 0.0000002?  More people die from tripping on stairs, a lot more. Way more people die from a head cold.  Why don't you just make death illegal?
Just 7 years ago, people were outspoken and took a stand for their political beliefs.  Now there is silence, and pent up frustration.
It is very sad to watch this happen.  
Live and let live.  A few simple principles to guide us is a far better solution, than a million DO NOT's.  If you give up you liberty, for safety, then you don't deserve either.  I will take dangerous freedom over being safe every time.

Very true, the freedom in Thailand died May 2014, the spirit and the fun of the place has slowly been eroded since then. I think made the right call heading back to UK at the end of March, too many stupid rules in the fight against covid, not much chance of getting back and most of the fun places will have gone bust in the mean time.

[Stadtler]

31 minutes ago, eeworldwide said:

100% agree. 

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

Stadtler is perplexed by this statement.  Was this meant as a phallic reference?

[Aeiou7]

I am usually not a conspiracy theorist believing in all kind of weird nonsense about hidden government agendas and I do think that the Thai government has generally done a great job in containing Covid-19, no matter if covidiots get that or (more likely) not. 

But I definitely see a possibility that the current Thai governments (national and provincial) are abusing their newly acquired powers to crack down on the sex industry here. Go-go-bars that don't survive might be seen as a big success by them. Of course, I am just speculating here and not accusing anyone in power of any wrongdoings. ???? 

[bitterbatter]

1 minute ago, Aeiou7 said:

I am usually not a conspiracy theorist believing in all kind of weird nonsense about hidden government agendas and I do think that the Thai government has generally done a great job in containing Covid-19, no matter if covidiots get that or (more likely) not. 

But I definitely see a possibility that the current Thai governments (national and provincial) are abusing their newly acquired powers to crack down on the sex industry here. Go-go-bars that don't survive might be seen as a big success by them. Of course, I am just speculating here and not accusing anyone in power of any wrongdoings. ???? 

How much do you want to bet that it's a self-righteous spinster wife, behind a cucked husband politician, that is making a lot of these decisions?

[A1Str8]

None of them. Traditional ways of entertainment are getting replaced by new ones regardless of the convid. 

[NanLaew]

Your roving reporter checked out Pattaya Soi 6 on opening day and depending on what social distancing procedures had been implemented, the bar was either heaving or dead. One bar with partitions and plastic screens was moribund while the one next door without all the paraphernalia was rammed with customers and staff shoulder to shoulder. Rumor has it a tidy 115,000 baht was made by the latter.

 

You pays your money, you takes your risks.

Edited July 8, 2020 by NanLaew

[OneMoreFarang]

33 minutes ago, bitterbatter said:

This goes way beyond GO GO bars.  Everyday more and more regulations.  There are people, whom I can't name, that only care about power.  This isn't about safety, it's about tyranny at its heart.  
Whenever people used to ask me, 'Why do I love Thailand?"

I answered, "Because of the freedom"
Those days are now gone.
People think that things will return to normal. I don't think so.  It is very difficult to unring that bell.
How often do you see governments get rid of laws?  Almost never, they just keep adding more and more.
On the surface the reasons always sound like good ideas.  But rarely are all the angles considered.  Anymore, whoever screams the loudest in the controlled media, gets what they want.  And these are usually the most emotionally unhinged, irrational, idiots you could meet.  
I cannot believe how quickly a few people can destroy a country.  
Shutting down a whole country indefinitely because the WHO says to do it?  For a fatality rate of 0.0000002?  More people die from tripping on stairs, a lot more. Way more people die from a head cold.  Why don't you just make death illegal?
Just 7 years ago, people were outspoken and took a stand for their political beliefs.  Now there is silence, and pent up frustration.
It is very sad to watch this happen.  
Live and let live.  A few simple principles to guide us is a far better solution, than a million DO NOT's.  If you give up you liberty, for safety, then you don't deserve either.  I will take dangerous freedom over being safe every time.

Are you talking about Thailand?

Yes, Thailand has a lot of laws, like many other countries. And there are more and more laws just like many other countries.

The big difference is still that many laws are not enforced in Thailand. So in a way there is still a lot of freedom.

 

Personally I think the Thai government made the right decision when they closed the country. And I hope they will make sure no Covid infected people will come into Thailand for the foreseeable future. Is that bad for busyness? Sure? But let's look at the alternative. The USA is a prime example how not to do it.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

9 minutes ago, A1Str8 said:

None of them. Traditional ways of entertainment are getting replaced by new ones regardless of the convid. 

I like your definition of "traditional". ????

I guess I am an old guy who likes traditions.

[eeworldwide]

29 minutes ago, Stadtler said:

Stadtler is perplexed by this statement.  Was this meant as a phallic reference?

Yes.

 

In the end, Thailand will be totally F****ed.

[tribalfusion001]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you talking about Thailand?

Yes, Thailand has a lot of laws, like many other countries. And there are more and more laws just like many other countries.

The big difference is still that many laws are not enforced in Thailand. So in a way there is still a lot of freedom.

 

Personally I think the Thai government made the right decision when they closed the country. And I hope they will make sure no Covid infected people will come into Thailand for the foreseeable future. Is that bad for busyness? Sure? But let's look at the alternative. The USA is a prime example how not to do it.

 

You have answered your own question about whether go go bars will survive, no, not without new influxes of tourists.

 

I saw a video last night in walking street (Josh in la la land), just one go go open, July 7th. The freelancer hang outs will probably be ok as no bar fines, cheaper drinks and cheaper ladies. I've paid one bar fine in 9 1/2 years, freelancers the way to go 100% ???? but I do like a go go bar for research purposes seeing lots of bouncing boobs 555.

Edited July 8, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[OneeyedJohn]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

10 to 15k depending on the bar, plus 100 to 250 lady drinks plus 10 to 15 bar fines.

That's a big ask if you can't dance, have no social skills, and are pig ugly.

[tribalfusion001]

1 minute ago, OneeyedJohn said:

That's a big ask if you can't dance, have no social skills, and are pig ugly.

They have other skills to make up for the lack of beauty 555

[Why Me]

The bars will survive. It's just a pause button for the moment. There's too much money to be made when times get back to normal for most owners to not hang on.

 

And times will get back to normal. For those who see a conspiracy remember the Bkk rezoning done not too long which kept all the designated entertainment areas. And NEP did a major renovation after that. And a new bar complex opened between Soi 5 and 7 to boot. So clearly the authorities are not in a missionary position over the bars (did you like that pun?).

 

And the new breed of gogo bar attendees from what I saw last is less farang and more Chinese/Indian FIT young males. They'll be back in their hordes as soon as this damned pandemic is over. And the Japanese and the Koreans will bubble back sooner than later.

 

So, there's your rosy report for the day.

 

 

[Why Me]

10 minutes ago, OneeyedJohn said:

That's a big ask if you can't dance, have no social skills, and are pig ugly.

That kind doesn't last long. Expats marry them.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, balo said:

Thais always find a way to survive, so I wouldn't be too worried. When tourism gets back to normal new places will open up. 

I think my beard will be down past my knees before tourism gets back to normal.

[androokery]

My impression is that the majority of the businesses in Nana gogo bars, as well as the establishments in soi Cowboy and on Bangla road, rely more on tourists wanting to visit the supposedly sexy dirty night scene than they actually rely on prostitution.  These places are an obvious draw for tourism and generate a lot of income. Letting them all die would probably be a mistake, even in the bigger scheme of things. And I haven’t even touched on the financial consequences of the greatest moneymakers In these bars being without an income. They’re like mini-factories for their families and home villages.

[tribalfusion001]

6 minutes ago, Why Me said:

The bars will survive. It's just a pause button for the moment. There's too much money to be made when times get back to normal for most owners to not hang on.

 

And times will get back to normal. For those who see a conspiracy remember the Bkk rezoning done not too long which kept all the designated entertainment areas. And NEP did a major renovation after that. And a new bar complex opened between Soi 5 and 7 to boot. So clearly the authorities are not in a missionary position over the bars (did you like that pun?).

 

And the new breed of gogo bar attendees from what I saw last is less farang and more Chinese/Indian FIT young males. They'll be back in their hordes as soon as this damned pandemic is over. And the Japanese and the Koreans will bubble back sooner than later.

 

So, there's your rosy report for the day.

 

 

Chinese never seen many of them in go go bars, they go to soapys and the Indians, only the bottom of the range go go bars let them cheap charlies in or charge them 500 baht each like Crazy House does.

 

Can't actually think of any bar girls or freelancers that I've known that would go anywhere near an Indian!

Edited July 8, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[Why Me]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I think my beard will be down past my knees before tourism gets back to normal.

Shave your pubic hairs you little ratbag you.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, Why Me said:

Shave your pubic hairs you little ratbag you.

That would reach my ankles, and I do have long legs.

[Why Me]

3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Chinese never seen many of them in go go bars,

That's because your eyes were where they should be. But if you looked around them's there.

[bitterbatter]

23 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you talking about Thailand?

Yes, Thailand has a lot of laws, like many other countries. And there are more and more laws just like many other countries.

The big difference is still that many laws are not enforced in Thailand. So in a way there is still a lot of freedom.

 

Personally I think the Thai government made the right decision when they closed the country. And I hope they will make sure no Covid infected people will come into Thailand for the foreseeable future. Is that bad for busyness? Sure? But let's look at the alternative. The USA is a prime example how not to do it.

 

Do you really think that destroying thousands of businesses, and millions of incomes, is worth saving a few hundred lives?  I don't see it.  
You think that this will end soon and things will return to normal.  I don't see it.  I would love for you to be right.  But this is not about the virus, this is a global attack on human freedoms.  If I am right, the shutdowns will continue into next year.  
As for the US, again lots of distortion there. Doctors are saying that every test they have been taking in the last two weeks is coming back positive. Social distancing, and stupid masks are supposed to slow down infection spreading.  Mainstream media is only talking about number of infections, but now completely ignore the fatalities which are dropping quickly and at the lowest levels since this early outbreak. Here is a stat showing just how poorly the US is doing, compared to other countries. You won't see this in the news.

[tribalfusion001]

1 minute ago, Why Me said:

That's because your eyes were where they should be. But if you looked around them's there.

Yes my eyes are normally fixed on the boobs.