UK concerned by rise in small boats crossing from France, immigration official says

[bert bloggs]

2 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Don't forget the dole and free NHS treatment.

while you and i after paying tax all our lives have to pay 150%of the cost if we want NHS treatment

[jesimps]

3 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

This can not be the case, otherwise why are they not settling in even numbers across all of Europe? 

 

Something is attracting then to the UK above all other European countries. What is it?

 

My brother also works for a charity helping many of these immigrants and I can tell you first hand they get exploited in sweat shops and are basically slaves. 

 

I don't know how you can think many and wealth and a benefit to the UK. They are a benefit to illegal activities and unethical people and the authorities turn a blind eye. 

 

As their applications to get processes that takes years and they appeal when they are refused, and again takes more delays. All this time they are either being used as slaves or being houses, fed and given money and charity. 

"All this time they are either being used as slaves or being houses, fed and given money and charity."

 

Yes, my money! So why let them in in the first place? Why aren't they turned back to France for them to deal with? France is a perfectly safe country where they aren't under threat. 

 

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

 

Took me a while but looking at the picture in some detail..... Priceless!!!????

Typical treacherous frogs.

 

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

No they arent. They are incorrectly calked illegals as an emotive call.

 

They request asylum, so until they are found to be refused asylum they are legal.

Then why didn't they request it in one of the safe countries they passed through. Is France not a safe country? This is a rhetorical question, but your post needs it.

[jesimps]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

This subject is always a hot potato and just ends up with both sides shouting at each other.  Neither side will convince the other that they are right because neither side will believe that they are wrong.

 

There will always be those who hate the fact that Britain is a multi-racial country that is compassionate when it comes to asylum seekers and those who wholeheartedly embrace it.  I have a wife from Asia and we live in  Britain with our half caste son.

 

Ironically this board is full of immigrants to Thailand who have Asian wives or partners and many have their own half caste children.  And they have the nerve to complain about immigrants in their home countries.  Hypocrites! One and all. 

There are no foreign immigrants to Thailand as far as I know. Maybe women married to Thais and a few who've been granted residency. Most of us are on a twelve month visa, extended annually at the whim of the Thais. I too am married to a Thai, but if I wanted to take her to the UK to live, I'd do it through the proper legal channels. I'm sure that illegal migrants make it more difficult for the genuine ones to enter. They're similar to queue jumpers in my mind.

[izod10]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

I snipped your rant. Lobby your MP to update HMG refugee / asylum seeker law, exit the UN Convention for Refugees etc.

Just that,have done it and the vast majority of my home town in UK.  My MP fully in agreement with getting shut of the scum.  So much pressure now being applied  ,good one,just get shut of them

  Needs no UN Convention for Refugees,the scum have by-passed that by window shopping,you think the UK will observe any convention  lol  lol  binned

[sirocco]

jesimps, post92, hello,

 

That is very true, France is a safe country for all the scum of the earth.
Undocumented migrants and asylum seekers march through the streets with impunity, they ransack churches, burn them on occasion, slaughter priests, steal, assault, stink firefighters and law enforcement, and file complaints. against them, when a firefighter has the audacity to put out a car fire or against the police officers who have also had the misfortune of pinning them to the ground, for spitting, rebellion, and so on.

[lungbing]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

This subject is always a hot potato and just ends up with both sides shouting at each other.  Neither side will convince the other that they are right because neither side will believe that they are wrong.

 

There will always be those who hate the fact that Britain is a multi-racial country that is compassionate when it comes to asylum seekers and those who wholeheartedly embrace it.  I have a wife from Asia and we live in  Britain with our half caste son.

 

Ironically this board is full of immigrants to Thailand who have Asian wives or partners and many have their own half caste children.  And they have the nerve to complain about immigrants in their home countries.  Hypocrites! One and all. 

The difference being that I have the funds to support my wife and daughters, and yearly have to prove that I have those funds.

[sungod]

4 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

 Something is attracting then to the UK above all other European countries. What is it?

Brexit, they know its a good thing ????

[simple1]

53 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Just that,have done it and the vast majority of my home town in UK.  My MP fully in agreement with getting shut of the scum.  So much pressure now being applied  ,good one,just get shut of them

  Needs no UN Convention for Refugees,the scum have by-passed that by window shopping,you think the UK will observe any convention  lol  lol  binned

 

 

I believe you HMG is going to de-ratify UN Convention for Refugees - if in fact you did send a letter it would be the rubbish bin.

Edited August 8, 2020 by simple1

[izod10]

25 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I believe you HMG is going to de-ratify UN Convention for Refugees - if in fact you did send a letter it would be the rubbish bin.

Being ignored as I write

[CG1 Blue]

5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Might have to question how many of the migrants getting into the UK are the poor defenceless women described here, and how many are from the 'fourteen men' between her legs. It seems to be mainly fit young men getting in, not defenceless women. 

https://www.unhcr.org/women.html

How does posting a link about a charity organisation relate to my point? My point being that most of the migrants are young fit men rather than the vulnerable women you referred to. 

Perhaps you can highlight the bit in your link that is relevant.  

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

How does posting a link about a charity organisation relate to my point? My point being that most of the migrants are young fit men rather than the vulnerable women you referred to. 

Perhaps you can highlight the bit in your link that is relevant.  

Read the percentage in the link. 
 

More facts for you

 

https://eca.unwomen.org/en/news/in-focus/women-refugees-and-migrants

And more

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/11/29/americans-like-refugees-better-when-theyre-women-and-children-especially-republicans/?outputType=amp

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Bluespunk

[CG1 Blue]

4 hours ago, dunroaming said:

This subject is always a hot potato and just ends up with both sides shouting at each other.  Neither side will convince the other that they are right because neither side will believe that they are wrong.

 

There will always be those who hate the fact that Britain is a multi-racial country that is compassionate when it comes to asylum seekers and those who wholeheartedly embrace it.  I have a wife from Asia and we live in  Britain with our half caste son.

 

Ironically this board is full of immigrants to Thailand who have Asian wives or partners and many have their own half caste children.  And they have the nerve to complain about immigrants in their home countries.  Hypocrites! One and all. 

Don't mean to be picky, but 'half caste' is a term very much frowned upon these days. Better use 'mixed race' going forward if you don't want to be called the R word.  

[izod10]

Ministers are considering blocking migrant boats in the Channel before they can enter British waters in an increasingly desperate effort to stem the rising number of crossings.

The approach, modelled on Australian tactics used against migrants from Indonesia, could involve the Royal Navy and Border Force intercepting vessels as they leave French waters.

 

 

Let them enter British section,so what?  a slow puncture would give them little pause for thought,paddle like hell,back to France

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, jesimps said:

"All this time they are either being used as slaves or being houses, fed and given money and charity."

 

Yes, my money! So why let them in in the first place? Why aren't they turned back to France for them to deal with? France is a perfectly safe country where they aren't under threat. 

 

Yes, that is what I am saying. But we would not have to be turning any back if they did not want to come to the UK in the first place. We are seen as the dream destination for most of this group of people. They know the UK government is a soft touch. They know they can delay and delay again the paperwork and appeals. They know they will be housed, clothed, fed, provided with spending money for phones and smokes, get free health care, get money for not working, or get help finding a job. All these are the ones we see. Then there are the ones that are living 10 plus to a small room in a run down house, having to work for basically nothing and having no rights...while the authorities turn a blind eye as they are not capable of sorting out the people the may rescue from this...and they are indeed a benefit for cheap labour. 

[CG1 Blue]

15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Read the percentage in the link. 
 

More facts for you

 

https://eca.unwomen.org/en/news/in-focus/women-refugees-and-migrants

And more

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/11/29/americans-like-refugees-better-when-theyre-women-and-children-especially-republicans/?outputType=amp

 

So what percentage of the migrants crossing the channel to the UK are women? It would be nice if you could copy/paste the relevant bits to save everyone having to trawl though whole articles. 

 

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So what percentage of the migrants crossing the channel to the UK are women? It would be nice if you could copy/paste the relevant bits to save everyone having to trawl though whole articles. 

 

No. 
 

It is enough to know it is false to claim most refugees are young men. 
 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Bluespunk

[3NUMBAS]

russian special forces would find landing a breeze to take over the UK in 1 week  ,where hitler failed the seekers triumphed

[impulse]

8 hours ago, trucking said:

 

Surely not Surelynot. Certainly managed to dress down for the occasion. God bless them. The sub saharan elite coming to help put England on its feet. They will probably land, go into the nearest town , take a quick shufty and realize they have made a horrible mistake.

 

 

 

They look suspiciously similar to natives of the countries devastated for centuries by European colonial imperialism.  It's going to be hundreds of years fixing the mess the Euro's left behind. 

 

You can thank your ancestors...  You know...  The ones whose statues are coming down.

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by impulse

[Rookiescot]

It is astonishing how Brexit and all the right wing rhetoric surrounding it has emboldened the closet racists in society.  

[tebee]

4 hours ago, steve187 said:

so lets spend thousand of man/women hours doing as you suggest, instead of getting the EU to do their job, and sort the immigration process out, in the first country of arrival.

.....

But it's not the EU's job after the end of the year - we left - EU laws don't apply, the Dublin accord is EU law 

[darksidedog]

A troll post and reply have been removed.

Next one to question another members intellectual capacity gets a posting holiday.

[DaftToPutRealName]

I wonder what the "acceptable" level of small boats full of illegal immigrants is...?

[roo860]

9 minutes ago, DaftToPutRealName said:

I wonder what the "acceptable" level of small boats full of illegal immigrants is...?

Hopefully zero.

[izod10]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

It is astonishing how Brexit and all the right wing rhetoric surrounding it has emboldened the closet racists in society.  

More right wing sunshine than left wing,not just rhetoric,but actions

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

No. 
 

It is enough to know it is false to claim most refugees are young men. 
 

You're right. They're not refugees they're illegal immigrants who turn up unannounced in droves (4000+ already this year & 48k in hotels around the country according to HO admission under FoI)) without being suitably screened (health?security?) and expecting taxpayers (✓) to pick up the tab 

Edited August 8, 2020 by evadgib

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

You're right. They're not refugees they're economic migrants/II's.

Nope. 

[Bluespunk]

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Edited August 8, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.