Harris makes campaign-trail debut with Democrat Biden, criticizes Trump on coronavirus

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.

Or she travel to Malaysia and learn that Harris mean "guard or a person of trust". Whats your point. 

[Chomper Higgot]

54 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.

Is that it?

 

Is that what you’ve got??

[i84teen]

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Interesting that you say that.

I think we all know that VP to be elected Harris is capable of being more electrifying and charismatic than potus to be elected Biden. 

But I think she intentionally played a very smart game to let Biden have the spotlight in that rollout event.

She will be electrifying in the campaign but at the end of the day the VP is not supposed to upstage the potus.

To add, personally I think this was the smartest political and also safe choice for Biden.

I think once elected Rice would be a better governing partner than Harris, but that means nothing if you don't win. 

Evicting 45 is job one, for Biden, the democrats, and all decent Americans that want to preserve American democracy. 

wait and see how this works out for sleepie slow joe and this phoney conniven harris.

Remember how kamala believed bidens accusers until she didn't!

She is gonna get lit up like a firecracker on Cn new years! She's DONE///like toast, guaran-azz-teed!

 

 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.

At least she won't be trying to buy Greenland from Danmark. 

[Jingthing]

30 minutes ago, i84teen said:

wait and see how this works out for sleepie slow joe and this phoney conniven harris.

Remember how kamala believed bidens accusers until she didn't!

She is gonna get lit up like a firecracker on Cn new years! She's DONE///like toast, guaran-azz-teed!

 

 

Biden Harris are running against the most corrupt president in history. 

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.

Or she could go to greenland and buy it ????

[Sujo]

34 minutes ago, i84teen said:

wait and see how this works out for sleepie slow joe and this phoney conniven harris.

Remember how kamala believed bidens accusers until she didn't!

She is gonna get lit up like a firecracker on Cn new years! She's DONE///like toast, guaran-azz-teed!

 

 

Or like normal people and believe them until evidence shows otherwise.

 

Or believe trump and accept he paid porn stars.

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Or she travel to Malaysia and learn that Harris mean "guard or a person of trust". Whats your point. 

Its all theyvr got. Nothing.

[dunroaming]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  So you state it's propaganda but it's true?  You need to look up the definition of propaganda because your answer shows that you don't know what it means.

 

Aside from that my reply to you went completely over your head as you opened with:  "Of course the objective was to highlight what typifies a Trump supporter, the video does that perfectly."  

Yep!  You may call it propaganda but it is ALSO accurate in it's description of Trump's pathetic pack of supporters.

 

Just because something is described as propaganda doesn't make it untrue.

 

See www.quora.com/Can-propaganda-be-the-truth

 

Or as Wikipedia says  "In the 20th century, the term propaganda has often been associated with a manipulative approach, but propaganda historically is a neutral descriptive term."

Edited August 13, 2020 by dunroaming

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

Election every 4 years. All in. If he pulls out another takes his place. Still election.

So no automatic succession, every candidate who wants to try in the melting pot to find an ultimate final POTUS candidate for that party? 

[Phoenix Rising]

51 minutes ago, i84teen said:

wait and see how this works out for sleepie slow joe and this phoney conniven harris.

Remember how kamala believed bidens accusers until she didn't!

She is gonna get lit up like a firecracker on Cn new years! She's DONE///like toast, guaran-azz-teed!

Ah, the clever use of condemnatory nicknames and hard-hitting arguments all wrapped in stunning eloquence - amazing!

[Nigel Garvie]

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.

Just on a technical point, I'm not sure if you know that the word awful has changed its meaning. It meant much the same as awesome does now. I.e. awful meaning some thing that makes us full of awe.

[riclag]

4 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

I understand Joe Biden has mentioned he would be a 1 term president.

 

I'm not from the US so my knowledge of how this works is far from complete. Others have said that if he resigned at the end of the 1st term that would automatically put his VP into the presidency.

 

Is that correct? If so is this partly a plan to get a Democrat woman president? 

 

4 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Let me help here. He never said that but the opposition has said that. If he does decide to not rn for reelection the field is open to the party's elected replacement during the forth coming primaries. 

May I add, if during his term, he resigns for what ever reason,she takes over, until that original biden term is up then what the other poster comment comes to play.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

May I add, if during his term, he resigns for what ever reason,she takes over, until that original biden term is up then what the other poster comment comes to play.

I can’t see anything wrong with that.

[Scott]

Off-topic post reported and removed, as well as a couple of other posts. 

[ThaiFelix]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

criticizing Republican Donald Trump for mismanaging the coronavirus pandemic

Thats a bit overboard.......mismanagement??  I didnt think Trump did any managing at all with regards to the virus??

[theonetrueaussie]

10 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Good lord, since when has "Medicare for all" been a far left ideology". The whole of Europe looks upon this as simply standard civilised practice. Much the same for "Green environmental policies". 

I see you clearly don't understand medicare for all in America...Unlike EUROPE AND AUSTRALIA, medicare for all in the USA plans to completely ABOLISH private health insurance....Europe and many other standard civilized countries as you put it all allow private health insurance as well....

[Scott]

40 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

I see you clearly don't understand medicare for all in America...Unlike EUROPE AND AUSTRALIA, medicare for all in the USA plans to completely ABOLISH private health insurance....Europe and many other standard civilized countries as you put it all allow private health insurance as well....

Do you have a source for the assertion that they plan to abolish all private health insurance?   I think that would be difficult.   Anyone traveling overseas would need private insurance.  

[Tug]

1 hour ago, theonetrueaussie said:

I see you clearly don't understand medicare for all in America...Unlike EUROPE AND AUSTRALIA, medicare for all in the USA plans to completely ABOLISH private health insurance....Europe and many other standard civilized countries as you put it all allow private health insurance as well....

Huh......noooo you could still buy supplemental insurance that’s an untrue statement 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Tug

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Scott said:

Do you have a source for the assertion that they plan to abolish all private health insurance?   I think that would be difficult.   Anyone traveling overseas would need private insurance.  

I take it you didn't hear any of the dem debates with sanders and warren. Because that's what their plan was.

[Scott]

A post containing information that is either untrue or misleading has been removed.  

 

[Tippaporn]

9 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Yep!  You may call it propaganda but it is ALSO accurate in it's description of Trump's pathetic pack of supporters.

 

Just because something is described as propaganda doesn't make it untrue.

 

See www.quora.com/Can-propaganda-be-the-truth

 

Or as Wikipedia says  "In the 20th century, the term propaganda has often been associated with a manipulative approach, but propaganda historically is a neutral descriptive term."

LOL.  The logic of your arguments fail.  Trump supporters, as with any "group," are so varied that it is impossible to lump them all together.  Full stop.  Generalizing does not work as you would like it to here simply due to immense variation.

 

You cite Quora as an attempt to validate your claim that propaganda can be true.  The citation you provide is nothing more than the general public providing an answer to someone's question, "Can propaganda be the truth."  The first answer given fits with your desire to redefine the word "propaganda" to mean something other than what it means, a la 1984.  The fourth answer is accurate:

 

"Propaganda is a presentation method which promotes or destroys a cause, a product, a service, an individual or an idea in a deliberately one-sided way. Propaganda has an agenda.

 

"Truth is a claim that a description, perception or understanding of something accurately reflects it. Truth’s only agenda is itself.

 

"By this definition the truth cannot deliberately present information in a one-sided way. Propaganda cannot be the truth, therefore."

 

Just to note, propaganda can include statements of truth but certainly not the whole truth.  The idea is to provide some element of truth in order to give your agenda-based conclusions something to point to thus any truth included serving only as a patina of credibility.

 

Just to further hit home my point, had Klepper attempted to interview me I would have immediately recognized his scam and he would not have been able to "play" me.  I would have been one of those interviewees who would have been cut out of his video during editing.  Rest assured some of the interviewees were cut out.

[Chomper Higgot]

50 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  The logic of your arguments fail.  Trump supporters, as with any "group," are so varied that it is impossible to lump them all together.  Full stop.  Generalizing does not work as you would like it to here simply due to immense variation.

 

You cite Quora as an attempt to validate your claim that propaganda can be true.  The citation you provide is nothing more than the general public providing an answer to someone's question, "Can propaganda be the truth."  The first answer given fits with your desire to redefine the word "propaganda" to mean something other than what it means, a la 1984.  The fourth answer is accurate:

 

"Propaganda is a presentation method which promotes or destroys a cause, a product, a service, an individual or an idea in a deliberately one-sided way. Propaganda has an agenda.

 

"Truth is a claim that a description, perception or understanding of something accurately reflects it. Truth’s only agenda is itself.

 

"By this definition the truth cannot deliberately present information in a one-sided way. Propaganda cannot be the truth, therefore."

 

Just to note, propaganda can include statements of truth but certainly not the whole truth.  The idea is to provide some element of truth in order to give your agenda-based conclusions something to point to thus any truth included serving only as a patina of credibility.

 

Just to further hit home my point, had Klepper attempted to interview me I would have immediately recognized his scam and he would not have been able to "play" me.  I would have been one of those interviewees who would have been cut out of his video during editing.  Rest assured some of the interviewees were cut out.

All of a sudden you have a problem with the use of generalizations.

 

Progress at last.

[Tippaporn]

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All of a sudden you have a problem with the use of generalizations.

 

Progress at last.

Try commenting on the content.  If that's possible.

[Opl]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  The logic of your arguments fail.  Trump supporters, as with any "group," are so varied that it is impossible to lump them all together.  Full stop.  Generalizing does not work as you would like it to here simply due to immense variation.

 

You cite Quora as an attempt to validate your claim that propaganda can be true.  The citation you provide is nothing more than the general public providing an answer to someone's question, "Can propaganda be the truth."  The first answer given fits with your desire to redefine the word "propaganda" to mean something other than what it means, a la 1984.  The fourth answer is accurate:

 

"Propaganda is a presentation method which promotes or destroys a cause, a product, a service, an individual or an idea in a deliberately one-sided way. Propaganda has an agenda.

 

"Truth is a claim that a description, perception or understanding of something accurately reflects it. Truth’s only agenda is itself.

 

"By this definition the truth cannot deliberately present information in a one-sided way. Propaganda cannot be the truth, therefore."

 

Just to note, propaganda can include statements of truth but certainly not the whole truth.  The idea is to provide some element of truth in order to give your agenda-based conclusions something to point to thus any truth included serving only as a patina of credibility.

 

Just to further hit home my point, had Klepper attempted to interview me I would have immediately recognized his scam and he would not have been able to "play" me.  I would have been one of those interviewees who would have been cut out of his video during editing.  Rest assured some of the interviewees were cut out.

KIS : Trump wouldn't be spouting so much idiotic nonsense talking points if his followers didn't parrot what he says as shown on the video. You can say you don't identify with them - I bet for Trump you belong to the same audience.  

Edited August 14, 2020 by Opl

[EVENKEEL]

16 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, you guys really are scared <deleted>less of the girl.

girl??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, theonetrueaussie said:

I sorta hope the democrats win...it will be fun watching america burn....Defund the police, open up the borders, no more law enforcement, everything will be free, try and tax the 1% but they will all just move overseas so no more tax money to pay for everything....Globalism will drive all the manufacturing to low income countries....

Apparently, rich Americans have been looking into moving to NZ in droves. Perhaps because they fear a Biden win.

[Tippaporn]

12 minutes ago, Opl said:

KIS : Trump wouldn't be spouting so much idiotic nonsense talking points if his followers didn't parrot what he says as shown on the video. You can say you don't identify with them - I bet for Trump you belong to the same audience.  

After providing a thorough explanation you still want to lump us all together.  And, no, the Klepper piece was not deliberate propaganda as it certainly wasn't an attempt to find dimwits and imply that they are representative of all Trump supporters, right?  Forget the KIS, try honesty.

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

After providing a thorough explanation you still want to lump us all together.  And, no, the Klepper piece was not deliberate propaganda as it certainly wasn't an attempt to find dimwits and imply that they are representative of all Trump supporters, right?  Forget the KIS, try honesty.

Try honesty.

 

Strange remark in any discussion where Trump is involved, 20,000 lies and counting.

 

ROFL

 

Edited August 14, 2020 by stevenl

[Scott]

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