if was my son would want "eye for eye "  no  less

2 hours ago, brucegoniners said:

They should be set free. It's pretty obvious these kids were railroaded so they could say they caught the killers.

Yes I keep hearing that yet another internet myth that has apparently become an internet fact.

Good.  The death penalty is barbaric.  Why doesn't Thailand just join the civilised world and ban it altogether?

Take a Thailand poll to see the results and I would bet that most all Thai do not think these kids did it. These kids are thought to be harshly railroaded and seems still are being railroaded from fear of being put to death. This all happened in 2014 like same year someone else who seized phony power just 4 months earlier and is on record saying it was unlikely a Thai could not do this type of grizzly murder and that beautiful foreign women wearing bikinis should not expect to be safe.

 

That whole year is a sham and a travesty of justice. 

36 minutes ago, herwin1234 said:

Except the parents of the murdered victims who have seen more evidence than you.

 

"Miller’s family also expressed confidence in the Thai judicial process, saying the evidence against the defendants seemed “powerful and convincing”."

 

It seems everybody is deeply convinced it all was a big set up, two poor immigrants wrongly setup by corrupt Thai police (of course, whats new...) and wrongly convicted.

 

I didnt see the evidence nor did i follow  the case, but the parents believe these are the murderers, they seen evidence and also spoken with investigators from the uk.

 

So, why exactly whats the evidence that these two young men are innocent?

I suggest you search youtube as there is a documentary. Or search on here as there were many threads.

 

btw, her sister did not accept those two did it and was warned to leave the island. The uk police did not investigate the case, they passed on info given by police.

 

But there was so much wrong with the case to mention it here, best you search.

16 minutes ago, Road Warrior said:

if was my son would want "eye for eye "  no  less

Then they need to find nomsod.

Thai police are corrupt thugs!

Thais cant handle truth! 

The parents would be a lot happier if the real culprits were convicted.

This is another very controversial case, why does Thailand allow this to go on knowing full well that there is something seriously amiss here. Come on Thailand move into a world of transparency, stamp out corruption as these face saving scenarios are seriously detrimental to your integrity and the people of Thailand. Long term you will benefit & prosper. 

3 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Surreal. If anyone killed a family member of mine, death to them!

I cannot say how I would react to any future event unless I had experienced it before. This story is about the parents of the deceased and not about any individual on TVF.

42 minutes ago, KKr said:

So, if that is crucial evidence, the interested persons surely can have the case re-opened since there is new evidence to be presented to the Court.

 

What new evidence?

1 hour ago, Road Warrior said:

if was my son would want "eye for eye "  no  less

then you need to find the real killer(s)

They admitted the killings in order to not get executed? Why do I feel so bad around my stomach when thinking of rule of law the Thai style?? These guys will spend decades in jail for something they might have never committed...

 

Thai justice system in total need of credibility... Red Bull walks free? Myanmar workers put on death row. Corrupt <deleted> up country with no trust in justice.

3 hours ago, mogandave said:

Guess the girl’s parents weren’t available for comment...

Or their comments didn’t fit in with this PR story 

They deserve death penalty  for what they did and anyone  that disagrees and tries to blame the thai authorities  does not deserve to have a visa and stay in Thailand 

 

 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Good.  The death penalty is barbaric.  Why doesn't Thailand just join the civilised world and ban it altogether?

Like America  only been 1 - 3 executions since 2009

 

Allot of people get sentenced to death then communited to life then sometiems  out within 15 to 20 years

 

In this case they should  never be free after what they did

The thai  government  should be working on getting the 3rd man who ran extradited back to Thailand 

1 minute ago, BigC said:

They deserve death penalty  for what they did and anyone  that disagrees and tries to blame the thai authorities  does not deserve to have a visa and stay in Thailand 

 

 

Quite a statement, unfortunately it highlights a significant lack of understanding of this case, it also highlights a significant lack of awareness of ‘how things work’ in Thailand. 

 

 

IF they did it. 

 

The case was terribly mishandled, it was widely assumed that the two Burmese guys were simply ’scape goats’ for someone with strong connections. 

 

 

 

 

Good timing to release this statement as it will make no impact what so ever on this years tourist numbers and will be forgotten when, if borders open....

i did not  realise  they  raped this  poor girl on the beach

That  if true  I would want the  death penalty as I am sure her parents  would want 

Any life  even in prison is better  than no life  so  death is a  just punishment 

If Rape  was  in this  case  I  am sure  these guys  would not have bothered with a condom 

So  DNA  at the scene  should be a piece of cake to tie them to the murders 

So how can there be any  doubt unless  the DNA  was not a match 

Be  interesteing  to follow  that one up ?

 

4 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Surreal. If anyone killed a family member of mine, death to them!

I expect that, due to the nature of their arrest, the inaccuracy of their police interviews, confusion over evidence, lost DNA, the very strange and quick departure of the relative of the Thai Head Man, and their trial and conviction -- the parents would have 'some' doubt that these two really were the murderers . . . or scapegoats . . . and prefer them not to be executed.

Surely if you are told you are going to be executed unless you admit to a crime,surely even if innocent most people would confess.In my heart I believe it was a set up.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Good.  The death penalty is barbaric.  Why doesn't Thailand just join the civilised world and ban it altogether?

Why doesn't Thailand open up easy PR for us married with family but is only easily gotten by a foreign woman married to a Thai man? All most other countries do.

 

If these kids have been prodded pushed as scared to admit being guilty, honestly they will never get out of prison and it is probably better they are put to death and become martyrs. 

21 minutes ago, BigC said:

Like America  only been 1 - 3 executions since 2009

 

Allot of people get sentenced to death then communited to life then sometiems  out within 15 to 20 years

 

In this case they should  never be free after what they did

They didnt do it though, thought everyone knew that

3 minutes ago, TERMINATOR3AB said:

i did not  realise  they  raped this  poor girl on the beach

That  if true  I would want the  death penalty as I am sure her parents  would want 

Any life  even in prison is better  than no life  so  death is a  just punishment 

If Rape  was  in this  case  I  am sure  these guys  would not have bothered with a condom 

So  DNA  at the scene  should be a piece of cake to tie them to the murders 

So how can there be any  doubt unless  the DNA  was not a match 

Be  interesteing  to follow  that one up ?

 

You people -- 'some' of whom have no memory of this case [Terminator3AB!!!] are too quick in condemning!

 

The DNA samples were corrupted and later 'lost'!

 

The Police were pressured into making an arrest. These two poor Burmese boys may or may not have been guilty but were in the wrong place at the 'convenient' time!  'Influential' Thais were ignored after abandoning the island 'very quickly'.

 

If the rich Red Bull guy had been 'handled' as these two Burmese boys he would have been in prison now rather than living a life of luxury wherever he is!

It’s interesting that the same people that believe the evil Thai government absolutely hates foreigners seem to also believe the same evil Thai government would frame a couple of innocent men to make the foreigners they hate feel safer thereby attracting more of the foreigners they hate...

Message to the RTP that set these 2 girl boys up. All those temple story's about you will become a bird and fly away after death. This will not happen to you boys. I hope your judgement is fitting.

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

Guess the girl’s parents weren’t available for comment...

If you followed the case in any way, you would know, that the Miller's reaction was significantly different from the Witheridge'!

While Hannah's family NEVER bought the verdict, the investigation or even the idea of the B2 to be guilty, Miller's parents were far more welcoming to everything the Thai- officials said and did!

Make of that, what you wish!

5 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

If you followed the case in any way, you would know, that the Miller's reaction was significantly different from the Witheridge'!

While Hannah's family NEVER bought the verdict, the investigation or even the idea of the B2 to be guilty, Miller's parents were far more welcoming to everything the Thai- officials said and did!

Make of that, what you wish!

Wasnt compensation offered and one Family accepted the money and the other Family didnt accept it ?

(No prizes for guessing which one is which)

3 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

Except the parents of the murdered victims who have seen more evidence than you.

 

"Miller’s family also expressed confidence in the Thai judicial process, saying the evidence against the defendants seemed “powerful and convincing”."

 

It seems everybody is deeply convinced it all was a big set up, two poor immigrants wrongly setup by corrupt Thai police (of course, whats new...) and wrongly convicted.

 

I didnt see the evidence nor did i follow  the case, but the parents believe these are the murderers, they seen evidence and also spoken with investigators from the uk.

 

So, why exactly whats the evidence that these two young men are innocent?

Funny you would mention, how the Millers and all the evidence they have seen, is good enough to believe the B2 are guilty!

Now...let's turn to the Witheridge - family!

Didn't they see the same "evidence"?

Because the funny thing is, that they didn't believe the whole thing!

But you conveniently leave that part out!

I wonder why?