Pattaya's ghost tower eyesore discussed yet again - demolition experts consulted

[webfact]

Pattaya's ghost tower eyesore discussed yet again - demolition experts consulted

 

Picture: Sophon Cable TV

 

Pattaya's infamous Water Front condo development is once again in the news. 

 

After ten years of dithering, court orders and failure to successfully conclude the issue Sophon Cable TV reported that eleven companies have been consulted regarding demolition of the structure. 

 

The development was first permitted in 2008 and building proceeded for five years until it was discovered that planning permission had been flouted. 

 

Building was initially stopped in 2013 but the matter was in and out of the courts until 2017 when a demolition order was issued.

 

Picture: Sophon Cable TV

 

A court challenge stayed this in 2018 as City Hall tried to reinstate it and have the building knocked down. 

 

Finding someone who is prepared and able to demolish such a large building has proved problematic. 

 

Now 11 private companies are being consulted who may be able to finally rid the skyline of one of Pattaya's most infamous eyesores. 

 

However, court battles remain and the issue is unlikely to be resolved any time soon. 

 

Source: Sophon Cable TV

 

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[Matzzon]

As I can see it, the only thing they need is a demolition expert.

 

In Frankfurt: 

 

 

In NW China: 

 

37 minutes ago, webfact said:

Now 11 private companies are being consulted who may be able to finally rid the skyline of one of Pattaya's most infamous eyesores.

Edited September 28, 2020 by Matzzon

[mikebell]

11 companies being consulted = 11 tenders for the job = 11 brown envelopes for a lucky few.

[mr mr]

why don't they just get the same guys who did building 7 ? 

[sammieuk1]

Wait for it to fall down its cheaper and quicker ????

[Chelseafan]

Who issused the planning permission in the first place and why are they not being prosecuted ?

 

 

[twocatsmac]

A monument to corruption.

[Kerryd]

Just now, mr mr said:

why don't they just get the same guys who did building 7 ? 

Probably because all those guys were quietly "disappeared" right afterwards ? Loose lips sink presidents and all ! Frik, even Seal Team members have blabbed about things that normally they'd never talk about.

I think they will have a real problem bringing that building down if they try using strictly a controlled explosion demolition.  You see in the 2 videos above how tall buildings can start to tip over as they are coming down. In the first video, the top of the 2nd building ends up tipping over and falling onto the rubble of the 1st building and I'm betting that was just a lucky happenstance.
In the second video you also see the top of the building tipping over and nearly landing on the buildings just a few meters away. Ideally, in both cases, the tops of the buildings should have dropped straight down, not tipped over. 

Note buildings in Frankfurt and the Chinese building were under 120 meters high and the Waterfront Condo is 175 meters (or would have been if it was finished).

I also noted that the story linked in the other thread had a graphic showing the building and the condos that had been sold. The graphic only showed a 50 story building but the news articles say it was 53 stories.

3 secret floors added on ? Or just another example of the right hand saying one thing while the left hand is doing something else ?

 

[Kerryd]

14 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

Who issused the planning permission in the first place and why are they not being prosecuted ?

The person in charge at the time was the former mayor, who is the brother of the current mayor (as well as the brother of the mayor of Bang Saen). He is also the Member of Parliament for Chon Buri. (Yeah, "that" family.)

As well, it seems they can't figure out who is to blame as each group is blaming the others. In the end I suspect no one will be held accountable and any court cases will be suspended for lack of evidence.

[Kerryd]

Good news though !

At least 4 property sites are still listing condos for sale in that project ! Not one of them mentions anything about the project being "delayed" or cancelled. 

I'm kind of curious what they would say if someone made an enquiry.........

[Chelseafan]

48 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

Good news though !

At least 4 property sites are still listing condos for sale in that project ! Not one of them mentions anything about the project being "delayed" or cancelled. 

I'm kind of curious what they would say if someone made an enquiry.........

 

Wouldn't that be a great story for the Pataya Mail ????

 

[Tropicalevo]

Thailand, explosives, demolition. What could possibly go wrong!

[Kerryd]

7 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Thailand, explosives, demolition. What could possibly go wrong!

That would depend on what amulets the people doing the explosives had as well as the competence of the fortune teller (or tellers) used to determine if it will actually work.

Using the wrong amulets and/or cheap fortune tellers could spell disaster !

[ChipButty]

11 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Thailand, explosives, demolition. What could possibly go wrong!

Imagine that?

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, mikebell said:

11 companies being consulted = 11 tenders for the job = 11 brown envelopes for a lucky few.

Is one of them the people who put it up? Or are they busy building ugly eyesores elsewhere?

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

Good news though !

At least 4 property sites are still listing condos for sale in that project ! Not one of them mentions anything about the project being "delayed" or cancelled. 

I'm kind of curious what they would say if someone made an enquiry.........

I just bought a penthouse on the top floor..... what a steal!

[Kerryd]

24 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I just bought a penthouse on the top floor..... what a steal!

You could probably still move in right now. Might be a long walk up and down the stairs though. Might be quicker and easier to make a bamboo bridge from the look out.

[Bender Rodriguez]

make it drop into the sea = ready for a pier

[chickenslegs]

I'm no expert but it looks like a fairly easy and safe demolition would be possible. Plenty of space for the building to collapse into.

Edited September 28, 2020 by chickenslegs
typo

[johng]

1 minute ago, chickenslegs said:

Plenty of space for the builing to collapse into.

Yes  right onto that large blue swathe of concrete they laughably  call a public park.

however the real  use is revealed here.

[wombat]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

court battles remain and the issue is unlikely to be resolved any time soon. 

 

and there is the kicker,
just when i was thinking the biggest bang seen in town and my thoughts came tumbling down

[edwinchester]

Shame Fred Dibnah's not around anymore, he could have burnt it down on the cheap.

[smudger1951]

Now if only our famous Fred Dibnah was still with us. He would have had that thing down with his customary remark "d'ya like that" Would he have got a work permit though ?

[Matzzon]

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Probably because all those guys were quietly "disappeared" right afterwards ? Loose lips sink presidents and all ! Frik, even Seal Team members have blabbed about things that normally they'd never talk about.

I think they will have a real problem bringing that building down if they try using strictly a controlled explosion demolition.  You see in the 2 videos above how tall buildings can start to tip over as they are coming down. In the first video, the top of the 2nd building ends up tipping over and falling onto the rubble of the 1st building and I'm betting that was just a lucky happenstance.
In the second video you also see the top of the building tipping over and nearly landing on the buildings just a few meters away. Ideally, in both cases, the tops of the buildings should have dropped straight down, not tipped over. 

Note buildings in Frankfurt and the Chinese building were under 120 meters high and the Waterfront Condo is 175 meters (or would have been if it was finished).

I also noted that the story linked in the other thread had a graphic showing the building and the condos that had been sold. The graphic only showed a 50 story building but the news articles say it was 53 stories.

3 secret floors added on ? Or just another example of the right hand saying one thing while the left hand is doing something else ?

 

 

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

The person in charge at the time was the former mayor, who is the brother of the current mayor (as well as the brother of the mayor of Bang Saen). He is also the Member of Parliament for Chon Buri. (Yeah, "that" family.)

As well, it seems they can't figure out who is to blame as each group is blaming the others. In the end I suspect no one will be held accountable and any court cases will be suspended for lack of evidence.

 

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Good news though !

At least 4 property sites are still listing condos for sale in that project ! Not one of them mentions anything about the project being "delayed" or cancelled. 

I'm kind of curious what they would say if someone made an enquiry.........

 

3 hours ago, Kerryd said:

That would depend on what amulets the people doing the explosives had as well as the competence of the fortune teller (or tellers) used to determine if it will actually work.

Using the wrong amulets and/or cheap fortune tellers could spell disaster !

 

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

You could probably still move in right now. Might be a long walk up and down the stairs though. Might be quicker and easier to make a bamboo bridge from the look out.

Oh my God! You seem to be the professional on the subject.

[gillap]

This is crazy...the building stands illegal or not! Why waste this building...make something useful with it...a hospital maybe...research centre...anything that would be beneficial to Thais...!

[Kerryd]

5 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Oh my God! You seem to be the professional on the subject.

Amazing what you can learn when you spend a few short minutes searching and reading, especially if you've been paying attention to such things for nearly 20 years.
You know, instead of just glancing a part of a headline and forming an opinion like so many people seem to do.

Instead of spending my days with my butt glued to a barstool watching some meaningless game of "footie" I read. News articles. Research papers. Blogs. Forums. Wikis. History books. I copy documents and file bookmarks.
I spent a good hunk of this morning writing a bit on the situation in Iraq right now, after the news came out about the Americans considering closing down their (massively huge and expensive) fortress, er, embassy there. Had to do some research to get some dates, and check some maps and re-read some historical info (i.e. on the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s).

All that just so I could post a reply to something a friend posted on their timeline.

Pleasant way to spend a wet day indoors. I'm also wiring in a new overhead light switch in the bedroom. And I now know far more about Royal Enfield motorcycles than I care to as a result of a bunch more reading I did today (while looking up information regarding Harley's announcement that they were pulling out of the motorcycle market in India). 

But it's a hobby, not a profession. If I was getting paid to do the same thing, well then, it would probably justify the time I too often spend on such matters.

[xtrnuno41]

Mmm years ago i heard about a building in BK which wasnt right built, never heard it was torn down.

Tough the plans were to break it down. White envelopes?

[Catoni]

5 hours ago, Matzzon said:

As I can see it, the only thing they need is a demolition expert.

 

In Frankfurt: 

 

 

In NW China: 

 

Funny when they said it was razed to the ground.  LOL 

I would say it was lowered to the ground. And quite quickly too. 

[Oldie]

I bet on it - they will finish it. Perhaps after the planned Bali Hai project. If I understood it correctly then it would be at least 100 meters away from the coastline as required because they want to build something into the sea in front of the building. 

[Call]

Call in the Chinese! Don´t forget the quarantine and work permit ????