U want to agree on only what little songs of Trump delusion are playing between your ears being another Trump-hater special: zero evidence, maximum cope. Candide drops this gem (while linking some AOL “bombshell” that apparently only he read): “So there’s no evidence that Trump kicked Epstein out of MAL because he recruited Giuffre. We can agree on that:” Candide, we can not agree on that, because actual facts, court records, and Trump’s own repeated public statements say otherwise. The evidence exists and that you’re JUST pretending it doesn’t) Trump himself said it multiple times, on the record. In July 2025 he explained the ban exactly as “Epstein stole people that worked for me… He stole her [Giuffre].” He described warning Epstein, Epstein doing it again, and Trump throwing him out as “persona non grata.” Same story he’s told for years: Epstein was poaching young female spa workers from Mar-a-Lago. Giuffre’s own sworn deposition confirms the recruitment happened at Mar-a-Lago. She was 16, working as a locker-room/spa attendant in summer 2000 when Ghislaine Maxwell approached her right there in the club and lured her away to “give massages” for Epstein. That’s not speculation, that’s page-after-page court testimony. Giuffre’s lawyer Bradley Edwards (who represented multiple victims) put it in a 2009 court filing: Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago “because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club.” Edwards has also said publicly that Trump cooperated with the investigation and gave him useful information. Timeline checks out: Giuffre recruited ~2000; Trump cuts Epstein off around 2004 / 2007 (exact year varies slightly by source, but the ban is undisputed). Other contemporaneous accounts say Epstein was hitting on young girls or members’ daughters at the club, same “creep” behavior that got him 86’d. So yeah, there is evidence, Trump’s own words + the victim’s sworn account + her lawyer’s filing + 15+ years of consistent reporting from WaPo, NPR, BBC, AP, Politico, etc. The only people claiming “no evidence” are the ones who read a single AOL headline and declared victory while ignoring everything else. But up rolls candide with “we can agree there’s no evidence” the same way flat-earthers say “we can agree NASA is lying.” You’re not debating facts, you’re speed running denial while linking an article whose own title you didn’t bother to fact-check against Trump’s direct quotes or Giuffre’s deposition. Pro tip (u sure need them): When the guy who actually banned Epstein says out loud “I threw him out because he kept stealing my underage spa girls, including the one who became the most famous accuser,” and the court records back it up, maybe don’t announce “no evidence” like it’s a mic drop. That’s not skepticism; that’s just plugging your ears and yelling “Trump said it so it’s fake!” Next time try reading the primary sources instead of the clickbait. The evidence isn’t hiding, it’s been public for years. You just don’t like what it says. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-epstein-stole-young-women-from-mar-a-lago-spa-including-virginia-giuffre https://www.npr.org/2025/07/29/nx-s1-5484136/trump-jeffrey-epstein-mar-a-lago-ghislaine-maxwell Trump says Epstein 'stole' young women from his Mar-a-Lag...Trump told reporters his falling out with Epstein was due to the disgraced financier poaching his employees.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/29/trump-epstein-virginia-giuffre https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/29/politics/epstein-trump-falling-out-analysis https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/29/trump-epstein-virginia-giuffre-mar-a-lago-spa/
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