Meet the Americans 'standing by' for possible election violence

[heybruce]

51 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Have to agree his negotiators pulled a rabbit out of the hat in the Middle East.

Credit where due. Bitter pill to swallow, but I must be fair

Yes, by essentially making US policy toward Iran the same as Saudi and Israel policy, then throwing Israel a curveball by selling advanced defense technology to the UAE  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-uae-jets-peace/2020/09/14/ae0950a6-f682-11ea-85f7-5941188a98cd_story.html Trump has achieved movement in the Middle East.  It is a complicated scenario, but it makes Trump look good in the near term.  I'm sure that was his only concern.  However it remains to be seen if this leads to a more stable Middle East, or a more stable world.

 

BTW: Is that Trump's only foreign policy accomplishment?  Wasn't he supposed to get a Nobel Prize for disarming North Korea or something like that?  Wasn't he going to bully China into submission with tariffs?  Wasn't our trade deficit supposed to go down, not up?  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade

Edited October 11, 2020 by heybruce

[FarangULong]

On 10/9/2020 at 3:49 PM, Morch said:

 

 

The voting public voted Democrat. In 2016 and 2018. Only in Trump supporters' minds did Trump win a majority.

Nobody said anything about him winning a majority. Not that this matters, as the popular vote is not a thing, in US elections. Which is a good thing, considering Democrat states have way too lax voting laws. A former CA state secretary has admitted a few years ago, that it has happened htat illegals were registered to vote "but they were found out". A very misleading statement though, considering those people weren't found, but rather SELF REPORTED.

 

California laws prohibits the authorities from checking peoples' residency status with DHS, if they're registered to vote. That is insanity, and legislated voter fraud.

 

There is some circumstantial evidence, that voter fraud has and is occuring in Minnesota (Ilhan Omar), which is no surprise to anyone, who is aware of the tendency of ballot collecting in Muslim communities around Europe (if you like, I can provide a few sources regarding ie the UK, and it was one of the fraudulent instances of the Pres. election in Austria in 2016, although it couldn't be proven 100% in that case... but it does happen, some even sold their ballots - regular people, I mean, not just Muslims).

 

The electoral college insures, that the popolous states don't dominate all the others. It makes sense, considering how large the US is, that there are 50 states in it, etc. Just look at the EU, and how everyone hates Germany. The same would happen in the US, and it might lead to the break up of the union, if the popular vote was introduced, allowing states like Californizuela to dominate the others in Congress etc. Even worse, Californizuelans are fleeing the state en masse. Unfortunately not all of those fleeing are Republicans.

 

These "refugees" are starting to turn states and areas, like Houston, TX. I don't get it... they run from a place, that was ruined by Democrat policies, and then what do they do at their new home? Vote Democrat....

 

Do you know what the definition is, for repeating an action again and again, expecting a different result? ????

 

Anyway, as poster #2 (I think) already pointed out, there is a danger of civil war, because of the whole "we won the popular vote, Trump lost" mimimimi these past 4 years, not giving any credit for anything he did, closing your ears and MIMIMIMIIMIMIing to any sensible arguments, and rioting, looting, burning (while calling it "peaceful protest"), making sure White children are raised with more guilt and self loathing than German children (and that speaks volumes!!!).

 

Trump will win (I'm almost 100% sure, and I'm convinced bar some massive fraud he can't lose), and the Left will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE even harder than last time, and like they are right now.

 

Not to mention, that if anyother antifa thug (not sure why the article used quotes, they ARE thugs) thinks it's a good idea to execute "Fascists" (for being part of a patriot prayer rally). Last time they were lucky, that there was no real backlash. Next time, who knows... many of the pre-existing militias have already signalled who's side they are on. And it's not the Dem's/Leftist's side.

 

I'm sure most in the military aren't too fond of them either. Remember, the rank and file is mostly made up of Southern Boys (some Ohio and Idaho farm boys also, but we saw how they "welcomed" antifa to their communities).

 

The medias lying, fear- and hate mongering doesn't help either. Nobody wants (or should want) a civil war. I am confident though, if it does happen the Lefties won#t stand much of a chance. The only Lefties who will profit, will be China. I shudder to think of that.

[Sujo]

I would like to compare each candidates policies on what they will do for the next four years.

 

Bidens is on his website.

Where is trumps, hidden under his tax returns?

[Sujo]

9 minutes ago, FarangULong said:

Nobody said anything about him winning a majority. Not that this matters, as the popular vote is not a thing, in US elections. Which is a good thing, considering Democrat states have way too lax voting laws. A former CA state secretary has admitted a few years ago, that it has happened htat illegals were registered to vote "but they were found out". A very misleading statement though, considering those people weren't found, but rather SELF REPORTED.

 

California laws prohibits the authorities from checking peoples' residency status with DHS, if they're registered to vote. That is insanity, and legislated voter fraud.

 

There is some circumstantial evidence, that voter fraud has and is occuring in Minnesota (Ilhan Omar), which is no surprise to anyone, who is aware of the tendency of ballot collecting in Muslim communities around Europe (if you like, I can provide a few sources regarding ie the UK, and it was one of the fraudulent instances of the Pres. election in Austria in 2016, although it couldn't be proven 100% in that case... but it does happen, some even sold their ballots - regular people, I mean, not just Muslims).

 

The electoral college insures, that the popolous states don't dominate all the others. It makes sense, considering how large the US is, that there are 50 states in it, etc. Just look at the EU, and how everyone hates Germany. The same would happen in the US, and it might lead to the break up of the union, if the popular vote was introduced, allowing states like Californizuela to dominate the others in Congress etc. Even worse, Californizuelans are fleeing the state en masse. Unfortunately not all of those fleeing are Republicans.

 

These "refugees" are starting to turn states and areas, like Houston, TX. I don't get it... they run from a place, that was ruined by Democrat policies, and then what do they do at their new home? Vote Democrat....

 

Do you know what the definition is, for repeating an action again and again, expecting a different result? ????

 

Anyway, as poster #2 (I think) already pointed out, there is a danger of civil war, because of the whole "we won the popular vote, Trump lost" mimimimi these past 4 years, not giving any credit for anything he did, closing your ears and MIMIMIMIIMIMIing to any sensible arguments, and rioting, looting, burning (while calling it "peaceful protest"), making sure White children are raised with more guilt and self loathing than German children (and that speaks volumes!!!).

 

Trump will win (I'm almost 100% sure, and I'm convinced bar some massive fraud he can't lose), and the Left will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE even harder than last time, and like they are right now.

 

Not to mention, that if anyother antifa thug (not sure why the article used quotes, they ARE thugs) thinks it's a good idea to execute "Fascists" (for being part of a patriot prayer rally). Last time they were lucky, that there was no real backlash. Next time, who knows... many of the pre-existing militias have already signalled who's side they are on. And it's not the Dem's/Leftist's side.

 

I'm sure most in the military aren't too fond of them either. Remember, the rank and file is mostly made up of Southern Boys (some Ohio and Idaho farm boys also, but we saw how they "welcomed" antifa to their communities).

 

The medias lying, fear- and hate mongering doesn't help either. Nobody wants (or should want) a civil war. I am confident though, if it does happen the Lefties won#t stand much of a chance. The only Lefties who will profit, will be China. I shudder to think of that.

I hate to break the news to you. Lefties are also Americans. But trump is only president for white supremists.

 

Media lies? Trump at 25,000 yet?

Edited October 11, 2020 by Sujo

[RJRS1301]

20 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Yes, by essentially making US policy toward Iran the same as Saudi and Israel policy, then throwing Israel a curveball by selling advanced defense technology to the UAE  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-uae-jets-peace/2020/09/14/ae0950a6-f682-11ea-85f7-5941188a98cd_story.html Trump has achieved movement in the Middle East.  It is a complicated scenario, but it makes Trump look good in the near term.  I'm sure that was his only concern.  However it remains to be seen if this leads to a more stable Middle East, or a more stable world.

 

BTW: Is that Trump's only foreign policy accomplishment?  Wasn't he supposed to get a Nobel Prize for disarming North Korea or something like that?  Wasn't he going to bully China into submission with tariffs?  Wasn't our trade deficit supposed to go down, not up?  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade

Hey I am not disagreeing with you, but just trying to be balanced.

He missed out the Nobel Prize thankfully, they found a more worthy recipient who would not commercialise the award, or squander the money attached to the award.

Is Mexico paying for any wall??

 

[candide]

33 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Yes, by essentially making US policy toward Iran the same as Saudi and Israel policy, then throwing Israel a curveball by selling advanced defense technology to the UAE  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-uae-jets-peace/2020/09/14/ae0950a6-f682-11ea-85f7-5941188a98cd_story.html Trump has achieved movement in the Middle East.  It is a complicated scenario, but it makes Trump look good in the near term.  I'm sure that was his only concern.  However it remains to be seen if this leads to a more stable Middle East, or a more stable world.

 

BTW: Is that Trump's only foreign policy accomplishment?  Wasn't he supposed to get a Nobel Prize for disarming North Korea or something like that?  Wasn't he going to bully China into submission with tariffs?  Wasn't our trade deficit supposed to go down, not up?  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade

We should be honest and acknowledge Trump's achievements re China trade! ????

End of 2016, the trade deficit with China amounted to $346,825 million. End of 2019 it amounted to $345,204 million only. So Trump's aggressive policy resulted in a deficit decrease of 0,47% after three years. Wow! ????

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

Edited October 11, 2020 by candide

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, FarangULong said:

Nobody said anything about him winning a majority. Not that this matters, as the popular vote is not a thing, in US elections. Which is a good thing, considering Democrat states have way too lax voting laws. A former CA state secretary has admitted a few years ago, that it has happened htat illegals were registered to vote "but they were found out". A very misleading statement though, considering those people weren't found, but rather SELF REPORTED.

 

California laws prohibits the authorities from checking peoples' residency status with DHS, if they're registered to vote. That is insanity, and legislated voter fraud.

 

There is some circumstantial evidence, that voter fraud has and is occuring in Minnesota (Ilhan Omar), which is no surprise to anyone, who is aware of the tendency of ballot collecting in Muslim communities around Europe (if you like, I can provide a few sources regarding ie the UK, and it was one of the fraudulent instances of the Pres. election in Austria in 2016, although it couldn't be proven 100% in that case... but it does happen, some even sold their ballots - regular people, I mean, not just Muslims).

 

The electoral college insures, that the popolous states don't dominate all the others. It makes sense, considering how large the US is, that there are 50 states in it, etc. Just look at the EU, and how everyone hates Germany. The same would happen in the US, and it might lead to the break up of the union, if the popular vote was introduced, allowing states like Californizuela to dominate the others in Congress etc. Even worse, Californizuelans are fleeing the state en masse. Unfortunately not all of those fleeing are Republicans.

 

These "refugees" are starting to turn states and areas, like Houston, TX. I don't get it... they run from a place, that was ruined by Democrat policies, and then what do they do at their new home? Vote Democrat....

 

Do you know what the definition is, for repeating an action again and again, expecting a different result? ????

 

Anyway, as poster #2 (I think) already pointed out, there is a danger of civil war, because of the whole "we won the popular vote, Trump lost" mimimimi these past 4 years, not giving any credit for anything he did, closing your ears and MIMIMIMIIMIMIing to any sensible arguments, and rioting, looting, burning (while calling it "peaceful protest"), making sure White children are raised with more guilt and self loathing than German children (and that speaks volumes!!!).

 

Trump will win (I'm almost 100% sure, and I'm convinced bar some massive fraud he can't lose), and the Left will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE even harder than last time, and like they are right now.

 

Not to mention, that if anyother antifa thug (not sure why the article used quotes, they ARE thugs) thinks it's a good idea to execute "Fascists" (for being part of a patriot prayer rally). Last time they were lucky, that there was no real backlash. Next time, who knows... many of the pre-existing militias have already signalled who's side they are on. And it's not the Dem's/Leftist's side.

 

I'm sure most in the military aren't too fond of them either. Remember, the rank and file is mostly made up of Southern Boys (some Ohio and Idaho farm boys also, but we saw how they "welcomed" antifa to their communities).

 

The medias lying, fear- and hate mongering doesn't help either. Nobody wants (or should want) a civil war. I am confident though, if it does happen the Lefties won#t stand much of a chance. The only Lefties who will profit, will be China. I shudder to think of that.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Unfortunately I don't think there is even 1 opinion I agree with, and much of your reasoning is based on incorrect facts.

[RJRS1301]

15 minutes ago, FarangULong said:

Nobody said anything about him winning a majority. Not that this matters, as the popular vote is not a thing, in US elections. Which is a good thing, considering Democrat states have way too lax voting laws. A former CA state secretary has admitted a few years ago, that it has happened htat illegals were registered to vote "but they were found out". A very misleading statement though, considering those people weren't found, but rather SELF REPORTED.

 

California laws prohibits the authorities from checking peoples' residency status with DHS, if they're registered to vote. That is insanity, and legislated voter fraud.

 

There is some circumstantial evidence, that voter fraud has and is occuring in Minnesota (Ilhan Omar), which is no surprise to anyone, who is aware of the tendency of ballot collecting in Muslim communities around Europe (if you like, I can provide a few sources regarding ie the UK, and it was one of the fraudulent instances of the Pres. election in Austria in 2016, although it couldn't be proven 100% in that case... but it does happen, some even sold their ballots - regular people, I mean, not just Muslims).

 

The electoral college insures, that the popolous states don't dominate all the others. It makes sense, considering how large the US is, that there are 50 states in it, etc. Just look at the EU, and how everyone hates Germany. The same would happen in the US, and it might lead to the break up of the union, if the popular vote was introduced, allowing states like Californizuela to dominate the others in Congress etc. Even worse, Californizuelans are fleeing the state en masse. Unfortunately not all of those fleeing are Republicans.

 

These "refugees" are starting to turn states and areas, like Houston, TX. I don't get it... they run from a place, that was ruined by Democrat policies, and then what do they do at their new home? Vote Democrat....

 

Do you know what the definition is, for repeating an action again and again, expecting a different result? ????

 

Anyway, as poster #2 (I think) already pointed out, there is a danger of civil war, because of the whole "we won the popular vote, Trump lost" mimimimi these past 4 years, not giving any credit for anything he did, closing your ears and MIMIMIMIIMIMIing to any sensible arguments, and rioting, looting, burning (while calling it "peaceful protest"), making sure White children are raised with more guilt and self loathing than German children (and that speaks volumes!!!).

 

Trump will win (I'm almost 100% sure, and I'm convinced bar some massive fraud he can't lose), and the Left will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE even harder than last time, and like they are right now.

 

Not to mention, that if anyother antifa thug (not sure why the article used quotes, they ARE thugs) thinks it's a good idea to execute "Fascists" (for being part of a patriot prayer rally). Last time they were lucky, that there was no real backlash. Next time, who knows... many of the pre-existing militias have already signalled who's side they are on. And it's not the Dem's/Leftist's side.

 

I'm sure most in the military aren't too fond of them either. Remember, the rank and file is mostly made up of Southern Boys (some Ohio and Idaho farm boys also, but we saw how they "welcomed" antifa to their communities).

 

The medias lying, fear- and hate mongering doesn't help either. Nobody wants (or should want) a civil war. I am confident though, if it does happen the Lefties won#t stand much of a chance. The only Lefties who will profit, will be China. I shudder to think of that.

Perhaps you have over egged the cake?

 

[RJRS1301]

Just now, candide said:

We should be honest and acknowledge Trump's achievements re China trade! ????

End of 2016, the trade deficit with China amounted to $346,825 million. End of 2019 it amounted to $345,204 million only. So Trump's aggressive policy resulted in a deficit decrease of 0,0047% after three years. Wow! ????

Coz he does the best deals in the world, just ask him

 

[DrTuner]

On 10/9/2020 at 6:59 PM, Surelynot said:

A whole nation gone mental...thanks to.......????

From an outsider view, to me it seems US started to split in two somewhere after 2008 crash, same time PC and all sorts of minority groups started getting louder. Seems to be accelerating. Not a country on my possible target list anymore.

[Opl]

10 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

From an outsider view, to me it seems US started to split in two somewhere after 2008 crash, same time PC and all sorts of minority groups started getting louder. Seems to be accelerating. Not a country on my possible target list anymore.

fueled by Trump's birtherism and comments, and McConnell's plan to obstruct Obama 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Opl

[pookondee]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

I would like to compare each candidates policies on what they will do for the next four years.

 

Bidens is on his website.

Where is trumps, hidden under his tax returns?

IMO, its so much about what they intend to do, rather the perception of how they will change the U.S and the world, regarding Covid.

 

From an outsider looking in:

 

Biden: (Old, conservative as they come)

Easier to be controlled by any who might be "behind the curtain".

Likely to play into, and run with the Covid fear mongering.

YEARS of restrictions will satisfy his elderly fan base, whom have already had rich lives.

 

Trump: (Obvious, a wildcard and wont be controlled by anyone).

Has played down the Covid threat,

will not yield to to the media fear mongering campaign,

and wants to get the USA going again.

 

So consider the issues of the youth vs the elderly:

 

The youth:

 

Surely dont want this OTT Covid nonsense to keep going on..

A constant and very real threat to their lives and futures.

 

hence a vote for Trump.

 

The Elderly:

 

Clearly at the end of lives, so maybe not so worried about the issues, but more terrified of Covid, and swallowing the fear campaigns hook, line and sinker..

 

hence a vote for Biden.

 

To some extent, the election might be about the various minority groups,

but YOUNG vs OLD could even play just as big a part.

Edited October 11, 2020 by pookondee

[Morch]

 

@FarangULong

 

Just to be perfectly clear - you absolutely had to cherry pick a sentence from my post, just in order to go on this long, unhinged rant?

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Morch

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, xofswen said:

Trump isn't running on promises- he is running on PROMISES KEPT, why change, do what works.

Unlike Biden, 47 years AND nothing but failures and, oh, plagiarism, lots of that. Even Obama advised him to give it up and "not do this". Good luck America if biden and harris are allowed to destroy everything achieved by trump.

 

In reality, all the Democrats have to offer ordinary Americans is more social strife, more crime, more state interference, and higher taxes, uh, oh wait, bidens website mentions support for green N Deal but lies about it in debates. So, don't precisely know <deleted> Biden's planning or doing but that's perfectly fine as Biden don't know either.

 

Do tell which promises Trump kept. And maybe some words on those he did not.

What was exactly achieved by Trump - as in actual stuff, not what Trump says he achieved.

 

[xofswen]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Do tell which promises Trump kept. And maybe some words on those he did not.

What was exactly achieved by Trump - as in actual stuff, not what Trump says he achieved.

 

You have the floor, use your time wisely.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, xofswen said:

You have the floor, use your time wisely.

 

Yeah, didn't really think you were able to support your claims, or even try to.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, FarangULong said:

Nobody said anything about him winning a majority. Not that this matters, as the popular vote is not a thing, in US elections. Which is a good thing, considering Democrat states have way too lax voting laws. A former CA state secretary has admitted a few years ago, that it has happened htat illegals were registered to vote "but they were found out". A very misleading statement though, considering those people weren't found, but rather SELF REPORTED.

 

California laws prohibits the authorities from checking peoples' residency status with DHS, if they're registered to vote. That is insanity, and legislated voter fraud.

 

There is some circumstantial evidence, that voter fraud has and is occuring in Minnesota (Ilhan Omar), which is no surprise to anyone, who is aware of the tendency of ballot collecting in Muslim communities around Europe (if you like, I can provide a few sources regarding ie the UK, and it was one of the fraudulent instances of the Pres. election in Austria in 2016, although it couldn't be proven 100% in that case... but it does happen, some even sold their ballots - regular people, I mean, not just Muslims).

 

The electoral college insures, that the popolous states don't dominate all the others. It makes sense, considering how large the US is, that there are 50 states in it, etc. Just look at the EU, and how everyone hates Germany. The same would happen in the US, and it might lead to the break up of the union, if the popular vote was introduced, allowing states like Californizuela to dominate the others in Congress etc. Even worse, Californizuelans are fleeing the state en masse. Unfortunately not all of those fleeing are Republicans.

 

These "refugees" are starting to turn states and areas, like Houston, TX. I don't get it... they run from a place, that was ruined by Democrat policies, and then what do they do at their new home? Vote Democrat....

 

Do you know what the definition is, for repeating an action again and again, expecting a different result? ????

 

Anyway, as poster #2 (I think) already pointed out, there is a danger of civil war, because of the whole "we won the popular vote, Trump lost" mimimimi these past 4 years, not giving any credit for anything he did, closing your ears and MIMIMIMIIMIMIing to any sensible arguments, and rioting, looting, burning (while calling it "peaceful protest"), making sure White children are raised with more guilt and self loathing than German children (and that speaks volumes!!!).

 

Trump will win (I'm almost 100% sure, and I'm convinced bar some massive fraud he can't lose), and the Left will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE even harder than last time, and like they are right now.

 

Not to mention, that if anyother antifa thug (not sure why the article used quotes, they ARE thugs) thinks it's a good idea to execute "Fascists" (for being part of a patriot prayer rally). Last time they were lucky, that there was no real backlash. Next time, who knows... many of the pre-existing militias have already signalled who's side they are on. And it's not the Dem's/Leftist's side.

 

I'm sure most in the military aren't too fond of them either. Remember, the rank and file is mostly made up of Southern Boys (some Ohio and Idaho farm boys also, but we saw how they "welcomed" antifa to their communities).

 

The medias lying, fear- and hate mongering doesn't help either. Nobody wants (or should want) a civil war. I am confident though, if it does happen the Lefties won#t stand much of a chance. The only Lefties who will profit, will be China. I shudder to think of that.

I won't comment on all your rambling conspiracies and misrepresentations, I'll simply point out a logical flaw:

 

You start by implying (without evidence) there is significant voter fraud, then claim it is a good thing small states have disproportionate say in Presidential elections.  Logically, wouldn't those attempting to fix an election through voter fraud focus their efforts on the small states, where a little fraud would have a greater influence? 

 

After all, it would take a massive, difficult to hide effort in voter fraud to influence the election in California.  However it would be much easier to do so in Wyoming, Montana, North and South Dakota, etc.

 

Shouldn't we be focusing our attention on voter fraud on these small, easy to change the outcome, mostly red states?

 

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, pookondee said:

IMO, its so much about what they intend to do, rather the perception of how they will change the U.S and the world, regarding Covid.

 

From an outsider looking in:

 

Biden: (Old, conservative as they come)

Easier to be controlled by any who might be "behind the curtain".

Likely to play into, and run with the Covid fear mongering.

YEARS of restrictions will satisfy his elderly fan base, whom have already had rich lives.

 

Trump: (Obvious, a wildcard and wont be controlled by anyone).

Has played down the Covid threat,

will not yield to to the media fear mongering campaign,

and wants to get the USA going again.

 

So consider the issues of the youth vs the elderly:

 

The youth:

 

Surely dont want this OTT Covid nonsense to keep going on..

A constant and very real threat to their lives and futures.

 

hence a vote for Trump.

 

The Elderly:

 

Clearly at the end of lives, so maybe not so worried about the issues, but more terrified of Covid, and swallowing the fear campaigns hook, line and sinker..

 

hence a vote for Biden.

 

To some extent, the election might be about the various minority groups,

but YOUNG vs OLD could even play just as big a part.

I don't think future Covid policy is still a key issue. There is a WW convergence about what to do: wear mask, avoid crowd meetings, sometimes partial lockdown. Nobody is advocating full lockdown any more. There isn't much unexpected left about Covid. Trump can brag as much as he wants, people are more inclined to follow health expert's guidelines.

 

The key issue is whether the candidates are able to initiate and lead an efficient response to a major unexpected crisis. Trump has clearly shown he's unable to do so.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, candide said:

We should be honest and acknowledge Trump's achievements re China trade! ????

End of 2016, the trade deficit with China amounted to $346,825 million. End of 2019 it amounted to $345,204 million only. So Trump's aggressive policy resulted in a deficit decrease of 0,47% after three years. Wow! ????

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

Yes, but as indicated the less than 1% reduction in the trade deficit with China was offset by huge increases in the trade deficit with other countries.

 

(I know you were being facetious, but that is often lost in this forum).

[heybruce]

42 minutes ago, xofswen said:

Trump isn't running on promises- he is running on PROMISES KEPT, why change, do what works.

Unlike Biden, 47 years AND nothing but failures and, oh, plagiarism, lots of that. Even Obama advised him to give it up and "not do this". Good luck America if biden and harris are allowed to destroy everything achieved by trump.

 

In reality, all the Democrats have to offer ordinary Americans is more social strife, more crime, more state interference, and higher taxes, uh, oh wait, bidens website mentions support for green N Deal but lies about it in debates. So, don't precisely know <deleted> Biden's planning or doing but that's perfectly fine as Biden don't know either and if he does know you have to wait until after the election. Pack that court buddy!

 I forgot to mention Joe has Kamala who is an anchor baby. These kind of people lack American DNA, It takes at least 3 generations for an immigrant lineage to produce a real American. She has no business in our business as it is obvious that she is still a third world troll. And to boot, the way she shares her genitalia around town one might think she is still a primate.
Like Pete Buttigieg, Harris' father is an avowed marxist which explains her progressive ideological stance. But as to her simpering arrogance, there is no justification for that. Yuk, Americans detest here and that's no secret.

Uh,

 

The trivial segments of the wall that have been built were funded by robbing the DoD budget.   Not by Mexico.

 

No wonderful replacement for the Affordable Care Act.

 

The infrastructure bill is....what happened to it?

 

Contrary to the promise to eliminate the budget deficit, it was going through the ceiling before Covid, and has sky-rocketed since then.

 

The massive deficit spending did, briefly juice up the economic indicators Trump insisted were fake when they made Obama look good.

 

He did, however, deliver a massive tax cut to the rich.  One kind of thinks the deficit problem might be related to that.

 

Ok, any other accomplishments come to mind?

Edited October 11, 2020 by heybruce

[FarangULong]

3 hours ago, Sujo said:

I hate to break the news to you. Lefties are also Americans. But trump is only president for white supremists.

 

Media lies? Trump at 25,000 yet?

True, they exist in my country also. I don't like them, but I tolerate them. Except Antifa, I punch those in the teeth everytime I come across one. I don't have to like you (or anyone's) political views, in order to respect their right to have them. However more and more leftists refuse to do the same courtesy to those, who's views don't align with their own. Antifa isn't a new thing where I'm from.

 

They were scum (even lower than the ones of today) in the 30s already, and helped a certain Mr. A.H. to power (their shenanigans resulted in the creation of the SA, and several other party militias, even republic-loyal, centrist parties), etc., and they're scum today.

 

Yes, the media constantly lies. Half truths are lies, in my book. So are omissions. And lies are lies. I could easily give you hundreds of examples, of how CNN, NBC, etc. and all of them lie.

 

Especially when it comes to BLM related issues. Every time full bodycam footage is released, proving the shooting was justified, they either don't mention it at all, or briefly gloss over it, nevermind the damage they did with their sensationalist reporting prior to the release.

 

Take Tim Pool. He used to work for VICE, and other leftist media. He has said the reason why he quit, was because he was told to lie. His exact words (repeating what he was told, and even offered bonuses etc. to extinguish any qualms, he might have) were, "Side with the audience". And other instructions, to only utilize the facts that support the narrative...

 

But whatever makes you sleep at night. Do you think so many people talk of fake news, just because Trump says so? The term has been around before him, however his candidacy, and finally his election, helped shine a HUGE light, on how much they will twist the truth.

[pookondee]

1 hour ago, candide said:

I don't think future Covid policy is still a key issue. There is a WW convergence about what to do: wear mask, avoid crowd meetings, sometimes partial lockdown. Nobody is advocating full lockdown any more. There isn't much unexpected left about Covid. Trump can brag as much as he wants, people are more inclined to follow health expert's guidelines.

 

The key issue is whether the candidates are able to initiate and lead an efficient response to a major unexpected crisis. Trump has clearly shown he's unable to do so.

That may be true, but do you really think Biden has the mental capacity to handle those challenges?

He seems confused a lot of the time.

Most likely it will be left to his team and those around him to wing it.

 

Your post does sound positive about Covid however, so i can appreciate that. 

 

But as far as..Partial lockdowns and not much unexpected left about Covid..

 

I wish it were the case for Australia.

they still will not allow us to travel out of the country

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, pookondee said:

That may be true, but do you really think Biden has the mental capacity to handle those challenges?

He seems confused a lot of the time.

Most likely it will be left to his team and those around him to wing it.

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I would hope he's going to pay attention to his team, hopefully a team with real input, would be a nice change.

[johnray]

How do they tell the difference from the usually murders and school shootings?

[Sujo]

3 hours ago, xofswen said:

You have the floor, use your time wisely.

Perhaps you dont understand what a question is.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[DBath]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:52 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

From what I've seen that has nothing to do with the election. I'm not surprised it was included though.

 

IMO the OP is just more stirring to try and discredit a Trump win in advance, along with all the other, in my opinion, alarmist claims such as Trump would refuse to leave the W H if Biden was confirmed as president.

Perhaps they are worried that if the police are de funded, they would not be available to protect people.

 

Would that include Antifa?

“ANTIFA is not an organization, it’s an idea..”

- Joe Biden

????????????

[DBath]

5 hours ago, candide said:

I don't think future Covid policy is still a key issue. There is a WW convergence about what to do: wear mask, avoid crowd meetings, sometimes partial lockdown. Nobody is advocating full lockdown any more. There isn't much unexpected left about Covid. Trump can brag as much as he wants, people are more inclined to follow health expert's guidelines.

 

The key issue is whether the candidates are able to initiate and lead an efficient response to a major unexpected crisis. Trump has clearly shown he's unable to do so.

No. While ability to respond to the unexpected is a key issue, it’s not THE KEY ISSUE. The economy is and always will be THE KEY ISSUE. 

[DBath]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:55 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump has had control of the WH and the congress for several years now, so how has the election not been accepted?

Seriously?

Muller "investigation" that resulted in no indictment of the president

Impeachment when it was bound to fail in the senate.

etc

etc.

Not to mention all the time and resources wasted on these efforts at great cost to the American taxpayer. 

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.  Stay on topic.