Trump slams Facebook, Twitter for taking down Biden story in NY Post

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Here we go again(and again)

 

Please give details including a credible link proving Trump's criminal record. Sad it needs to be said, but failed attempts to impeach and wild accusations getting flung around with no credible proof does NOT mean Trump is a criminal.

Here's but one.  There are many, many more.  Sad some don't see his crimes.

 

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

[simple1]

30 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Here we go again(and again)

 

Please give details including a credible link proving Trump's criminal record. Sad it needs to be said, but failed attempts to impeach and wild accusations getting flung around with no credible proof does NOT mean Trump is a criminal.

Trump has had a number of court rulings against him or settled out of court. e.g. trump university and charities. In Australia trump was refused a casino license after a federal police investigation identified mafia connection in the US; refer link below. Why trump's mafia connections haven't impeded him in the USA is, for me, rather strange, 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-30-years-ago-rejected-due-to-mafia-connections

 

trump and family members have generally done amazingly well to keep their activities below the judicial radar. I suspect once trump is removed from power his and family circumstances will change dramatically regards criminal investigations resulting in charges.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Here we go again(and again)

 

Please give details including a credible link proving Trump's criminal record. Sad it needs to be said, but failed attempts to impeach and wild accusations getting flung around with no credible proof does NOT mean Trump is a criminal.

Trump called Hillary Clinton a criminal and initiated the "lock her up" chants.  Now he is desperately pressuring the Justice Department to find or invent reasons to prosecute political opponents.

 

With that in mind, why do you think Trump should be treated with greater courtesy?

[Tug]

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Here we go again(and again)

 

Please give details including a credible link proving Trump's criminal record. Sad it needs to be said, but failed attempts to impeach and wild accusations getting flung around with no credible proof does NOT mean Trump is a criminal.

Hey how about paying off stormy Daniels with campaign money that’s a felony lol naaaaa he’s durty lol

[watso63]

Social media giant's are as bad as book burning Nazi's

[herfiehandbag]

On 10/15/2020 at 11:12 AM, Tug said:

Poor Donald all his conspiracy enuendo/ slander tactics aren’t working anymore here’s a thought how about trying some policy issue related stuff heck we have been waiting almost four years for your health care plan there’s a start hummmmm

Give the fellow a chance, he has had a lot on his plate. Huge amounts of time and effort to build his "Great Wall of Trumpdom" and to get the Mexicans to pay for it. Peace initiatives with North Korea and Iran. The endless search for members of his executive branch who can hold down the job for more than a couple of months, not to mention spending half the day on twitter firing off policy announcements and abuse in equal measure - often the two are intrinsically linked if not really the same thing! It is hardly surprising , that even as a supremely fit and feeling ever younger man (the Dorian Grey of Pennsylvania Avenue?) one or two minor details will have slipped through the cracks in the floorboards. Not to worry though, he has got the striking down of "Obamacare" in front of the Supreme Court - all he has to do now is to ensure that the right decision is made, by the right judges!

 

What a right royal (well presidential) mess the USA is in!

[riclag]

On 10/17/2020 at 6:17 AM, Jeffr2 said:

Here's but one.  There are many, many more.  Sad some don't see his crimes.

 

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

 Jeff,your link  references a lawsuit ,in this case a civil matter ! There is no mention of a crime!

 The article below was a 2018 article bringing up the matter of civil and criminal!

Your link was the outcome of a civil  lawsuit ,by NY! A  suggestion that it was a crime is disinformation !  

Finally this judge in the lawsuit Saliann Scarpulla, presides over  civil not criminal cases! Nice try! 

 https://theconversation.com/as-new-york-looks-into-whether-the-trump-foundation-broke-the-law-criminal-charges-remain-unlikely-100315

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/courts/comdiv/ny/newyork_bio_scarpulla.shtml

 

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by riclag

[teacherclaire]

On 10/17/2020 at 9:30 AM, herfiehandbag said:

Give the fellow a chance, he has had a lot on his plate. Huge amounts of time and effort to build his "Great Wall of Trumpdom" and to get the Mexicans to pay for it. Peace initiatives with North Korea and Iran. The endless search for members of his executive branch who can hold down the job for more than a couple of months, not to mention spending half the day on twitter firing off policy announcements and abuse in equal measure - often the two are intrinsically linked if not really the same thing! It is hardly surprising , that even as a supremely fit and feeling ever younger man (the Dorian Grey of Pennsylvania Avenue?) one or two minor details will have slipped through the cracks in the floorboards. Not to worry though, he has got the striking down of "Obamacare" in front of the Supreme Court - all he has to do now is to ensure that the right decision is made, by the right judges!

 

What a right royal (well presidential) mess the USA is in!

Huge amounts of time and effort to build his "Great Wall of Trumpdom" and to get the Mexicans to pay for it.

 

He should build The "Great Wall of China" all around the country that nobody can give us anymore of their viruses.

 

And of course, let the Communists pay for their new wall. That would be something I'd appreciate. And he'd have my vote. 

 

   

[scorecard]

14 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

Huge amounts of time and effort to build his "Great Wall of Trumpdom" and to get the Mexicans to pay for it.

 

He should build The "Great Wall of China" all around the country that nobody can give us anymore of their viruses.

 

And of course, let the Communists pay for their new wall. That would be something I'd appreciate. And he'd have my vote. 

 

   

"He should build The "Great Wall of China" all around the country that nobody can give us anymore of their viruses."

 

Sure and at the same time stop Americans buying Chinese products, and much more to the point stop the Chinese from buying massive amounts of US soy beans, more grains, and many other products, etc.

 

That would sure buy trump some votes. 

Edited October 18, 2020 by scorecard

[Tie Dye Samurai]

46 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Jeff,your link  references a lawsuit ,in this case a civil matter ! There is no mention of a crime!

 The article below was a 2018 article bringing up the matter of civil and criminal!

Your link was the outcome of a civil  lawsuit ,by NY! A  suggestion that it was a crime is disinformation !  

Finally this judge in the lawsuit Saliann Scarpulla, presides over  civil not criminal cases! Nice try! 

 https://theconversation.com/as-new-york-looks-into-whether-the-trump-foundation-broke-the-law-criminal-charges-remain-unlikely-100315

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/courts/comdiv/ny/newyork_bio_scarpulla.shtml

 

 

wow...justify misappropriating from a charity for political gain...yeah that is the guy I want being POTUS...congrats Riclag you legal scholar. 

[placeholder]

On 10/19/2020 at 12:50 AM, riclag said:

 Jeff,your link  references a lawsuit ,in this case a civil matter ! There is no mention of a crime!

 The article below was a 2018 article bringing up the matter of civil and criminal!

Your link was the outcome of a civil  lawsuit ,by NY! A  suggestion that it was a crime is disinformation !  

Finally this judge in the lawsuit Saliann Scarpulla, presides over  civil not criminal cases! Nice try! 

 https://theconversation.com/as-new-york-looks-into-whether-the-trump-foundation-broke-the-law-criminal-charges-remain-unlikely-100315

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/courts/comdiv/ny/newyork_bio_scarpulla.shtml

 

 

Trump could be facing criminal tax probe, Manhattan DA suggests in new court filing

 

President Donald Trump and his business could be facing a criminal tax probe by the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, prosecutors suggested Monday in a court filing.

 

Prosecutors from Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr.’s office raised that possibility as they said that a grand jury subpoena seeking eight years of Trump’s tax returns and other records from the president’s accountants should be allowed by a federal appeals court, which is set to hear arguments in this case this week.

 

While prosecutors last month suggested that they might be eyeing the Trump Organization for possible bank and insurance fraud, Monday’s filing was the first time they had publicly said that their probe might encompass potential tax crimes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/21/trump-could-face-criminal-tax-probe-manhattan-da-suggests.html

[Scott]

Post with unsubstantiated claim reported and removed.

[riclag]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Trump could be facing criminal tax probe, Manhattan DA suggests in new court filing

 

President Donald Trump and his business could be facing a criminal tax probe by the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, prosecutors suggested Monday in a court filing.

 

Prosecutors from Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr.’s office raised that possibility as they said that a grand jury subpoena seeking eight years of Trump’s tax returns and other records from the president’s accountants should be allowed by a federal appeals court, which is set to hear arguments in this case this week.

 

While prosecutors last month suggested that they might be eyeing the Trump Organization for possible bank and insurance fraud, Monday’s filing was the first time they had publicly said that their probe might encompass potential tax crimes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/21/trump-could-face-criminal-tax-probe-manhattan-da-suggests.html

Nonsense you are deflecting  from the comment I made to another poster that made a ridiculous claim that your President has actually committed a crime  ! I called out that poster for a link(below) that was a civil action, as disinformation!

"Here's but one.  There are many, many more.  Sad some don't see his crimes"

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

 

To date there are no crimes committed by your President, Could be,might, possibility is far from the ridiculous claims that he actually has committed, which I heard from the left over the years!

Edited October 20, 2020 by riclag

[placeholder]

43 minutes ago, riclag said:

Nonsense you are deflecting  from the comment I made to another poster that made a ridiculous claim that your President has actually committed a crime  ! I called out that poster for a link(below) that was a civil action, as disinformation!

"Here's but one.  There are many, many more.  Sad some don't see his crimes"

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

 

To date there are no crimes committed by your President, Could be,might, possibility is far from the ridiculous claims that he actually has committed, which I heard from the left over the years!

No. There are no convictions for any possible crimes committed by Trump. The fact that he is President and currently not subject to criminal prosecution might have something to do with that. 

[Sheryl]

A post with false (and libelous) claims, incitement to violence and link to unauthorative media source removed along with reply to it

[TopDeadSenter]

On 10/15/2020 at 4:11 PM, darksidedog said:

I find it very difficult to be able to attach much, if any credibility to this.

Biden was widely investigated and no wrongdoing of any description found.

Then Giuliani of all people happens to come upon a hard drive we are supposed to believe contained highly damaging material, but was essentially discarded by the owner? A hard drive whose contents amazingly corresponds with the accusations Giuliani himself had been making, but were considered baseless?

I hope the full truth in this comes out, as it seems far more probable as has been widely commented on, that it is more likely a fabrication. If that proves to be the case I will be eager to see Giuliani explain it away, as it would be a despicable and highly criminal act.

 

darksidedog (NB i respond to DSD in his role as a participant of these threads only) says "it seems far more probable as has been widely commented on, that it is more likely a fabrication."

 

 While Biden campaign surrogate Jenn Arnold says the opposite-

 

Over the weekend, Biden campaign surrogate Jenna Arnold repeatedly refused to deny the authenticity of the alleged Hunter Biden emails. When asked by Fox News’ Leland Vittert if they were genuine, Arnold responded, “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

https://starherald.com/opinion/columnists/syndicated/cal-thomas-can-joe-biden-be-trusted/article_d4711f9c-4939-5627-8d7c-f75ea66edb2f.html

 

Meanwhile, on the narrative that Russia is behind these inconvenient emails -

 

“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe said.

“Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress,” he said.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/doj-agrees-hunter-biden-emails-are-not-russian-disinformation-report/

 

So the director of National Intelligence, and the DOJ concur(covered above in NYpost link) there is NO evidence of Russian interference in this email scandal - ergo Schiff is lying again. WashingtonPost now reporting the "FBI says it has 'nothing to add' to Ratcliffe's remarks"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ so no official body is saying the Russians had anything to do with this whatsoever.

And Bidens own campaign surrogate says “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

 

 I am starting to wonder, exactly who the conspiracy theorists are? Who has more evidence than Bidens campaign, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the National Intelligence agency chief? Are these 4 bodies not deemed credible?

[Sujo]

The fbi are investigating disinformation on it. 

 

How would ratcliffe know, hes not in the fbi and the fbi wont comment. Saying they have nothing to add doesnt mean they agree.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

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Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.
 

More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

...

While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.

 

“If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.”

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

 

As for the Fox "news" report above claiming the DOJ concurs with Ratcliffe, this would be the same DOJ under Barr that has repeatedly used the DOJ to advance Trump's political and personal agendas.  Both Barr/DOJ and Ratcliffe are totally partisan and non-credible on anything to do with Trump.

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[riclag]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

darksidedog (NB i respond to DSD in his role as a participant of these threads only) says "it seems far more probable as has been widely commented on, that it is more likely a fabrication."

 

 While Biden campaign surrogate Jenn Arnold says the opposite-

 

Over the weekend, Biden campaign surrogate Jenna Arnold repeatedly refused to deny the authenticity of the alleged Hunter Biden emails. When asked by Fox News’ Leland Vittert if they were genuine, Arnold responded, “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

https://starherald.com/opinion/columnists/syndicated/cal-thomas-can-joe-biden-be-trusted/article_d4711f9c-4939-5627-8d7c-f75ea66edb2f.html

 

Meanwhile, on the narrative that Russia is behind these inconvenient emails -

 

“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe said.

“Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress,” he said.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/doj-agrees-hunter-biden-emails-are-not-russian-disinformation-report/

 

So the director of National Intelligence, and the DOJ concur(covered above in NYpost link) there is NO evidence of Russian interference in this email scandal - ergo Schiff is lying again. WashingtonPost now reporting the "FBI says it has 'nothing to add' to Ratcliffe's remarks"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ so no official body is saying the Russians had anything to do with this whatsoever.

And Bidens own campaign surrogate says “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

 

 I am starting to wonder, exactly who the conspiracy theorists are? Who has more evidence than Bidens campaign, the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the National Intelligence agency chief? Are these 4 bodies not deemed credible?

Brilliant ,Sciff ,biden are being exposed,by a credible news organization! 

“If you thought it wasn’t possible for Schiff to have any less credibility, DOJ just proved you wrong,” a senior intelligence official told Fox News.

Meanwhile, another senior federal law enforcement official told Fox News that the emails are "authentic." 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

 

 OMG the optics! Don't let up Mr. Radcliff !

Edited October 21, 2020 by riclag

[rabas]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

The fbi are investigating disinformation on it. 

 

How would ratcliffe know, hes not in the fbi and the fbi wont comment. Saying they have nothing to add doesnt mean they agree.

LOL. The Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe is the person who knows all, it's his job, he's the big guy. The FBI reports to him on intelligence issues.

 

From Wiki, the DNI:

• serve as head of the 17 member United States Intelligence Community of which the FBI is a member.
• direct and oversee the National Intelligence Program
• serve as advisor to the National Security Council (NSC) and the Homeland Security Council about intelligence matters related to national security

It's Ratcliffe's job to know what relates to Russia and he would also know what intel was shared with Schiff. As Ratcliff said, Schiff knows nothing.

[Sujo]

8 minutes ago, rabas said:

LOL. The Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe is the person who knows all, it's his job, he's the big guy. The FBI reports to him on intelligence issues.

 

From Wiki, the DNI:

• serve as head of the 17 member United States Intelligence Community of which the FBI is a member.
• direct and oversee the National Intelligence Program
• serve as advisor to the National Security Council (NSC) and the Homeland Security Council about intelligence matters related to national security

It's Ratcliffe's job to know what relates to Russia and he would also know what intel was shared with Schiff. As Ratcliff said, Schiff knows nothing.

He doesnt know. The fbi are investigating. He will known once rudy agrees to release the metadata.

[Sujo]

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

Brilliant ,Sciff ,biden are being exposed,by a credible news organization!

“If you thought it wasn’t possible for Schiff to have any less credibility, DOJ just proved you wrong,” a senior intelligence official told Fox News.

Meanwhile, another senior federal law enforcement official told Fox News that the emails are "authentic." 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

 

Don't let up Mr. Trump!

Thank you for the confirmation contained in the link.

 

The repub senate investigated biden and found nothing. The fbi says it has nothing further to add.

 

So its still nothing.

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Thank you for the confirmation contained in the link.

 

The repub senate investigated biden and found nothing. The fbi says it has nothing further to add.

 

So its still nothing.

"Meanwhile, another senior federal law enforcement official told Fox News that the emails are "authentic."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

 

The FBI has the laptop ,Its customary for them not to say anything on a investigation! The story has federal law enforcement saying  the emails are authentic!

Just confirming that its not russian disinfo by the intel(fbi) is spectacular and damming lol!

 

 

[TopDeadSenter]

18 minutes ago, Sujo said:

He doesnt know. The fbi are investigating. He will known once rudy agrees to release the metadata.

He already has.

 

"The former New York City mayor said he turned the laptop over to police in Delaware with Bernard Kerik because he felt "uncomfortable" with it in his possession in an interview Monday with Newsmax TV's Greg Kelly."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/20/giuliani_i_turned_over_hunter_bidens_laptop_with_pictures_of_underage_girls_to_delaware_police.html

[Berkshire]

Just now, riclag said:

"Meanwhile, another senior federal law enforcement official told Fox News that the emails are "authentic."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

 

The FBI has the laptop ,Its customary for them not to say anything on a investigation! The story has federal law enforcement saying  the emails are authentic!

Just confirming that its not russian disinfo by the intel(fbi) is spectacular and damming lol!

 

 

You just don't get it.  The Russians hacked into Burisma.  Most likely got into H. Biden's account.  So they probably have his "authentic" e-mails.  The Russians throw some forged e-mails in there (the incriminating ones) and those are the one's that Rudy was wetting himself over.  Classic Russian disinformation campaign. 

[riclag]

18 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You just don't get it.  The Russians hacked into Burisma.  Most likely got into H. Biden's account.  So they probably have his "authentic" e-mails.  The Russians throw some forged e-mails in there (the incriminating ones) and those are the one's that Rudy was wetting himself over.  Classic Russian disinformation campaign. 

 

 

The fbi confirmed it isn't like you say a classic russian disinfo  campaign lol

"The FBI and Justice Department concur with DNI Ratcliffe that the laptop is not part of a Russian disinformation campaign".

see my link source above in another post

Edited October 21, 2020 by riclag

[TopDeadSenter]

4 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You just don't get it.  The Russians hacked into Burisma.  Most likely got into H. Biden's account.  So they probably have his "authentic" e-mails.  The Russians throw some forged e-mails in there (the incriminating ones) and those are the one's that Rudy was wetting himself over.  Classic Russian disinformation campaign. 

In case you missed my above post. You say it's a big fake carried out by Russians who planted emails in Biden's laptop. While Biden's campaign surrogate said “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

 Please read that again. NOBODY is saying they are inauthentic. That means even the Biden team isn't saying the Russians dunnit. That should give you pause for thought.

 

"Over the weekend, Biden campaign surrogate Jenna Arnold repeatedly refused to deny the authenticity of the alleged Hunter Biden emails. When asked by Fox News’ Leland Vittert if they were genuine, Arnold responded, “I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic.”

https://starherald.com/opinion/columnists/syndicated/cal-thomas-can-joe-biden-be-trusted/article_d4711f9c-4939-5627-8d7c-f75ea66edb2f.html

 

[Sujo]

23 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He already has.

 

"The former New York City mayor said he turned the laptop over to police in Delaware with Bernard Kerik because he felt "uncomfortable" with it in his possession in an interview Monday with Newsmax TV's Greg Kelly."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/20/giuliani_i_turned_over_hunter_bidens_laptop_with_pictures_of_underage_girls_to_delaware_police.html

It has no metadata, only pdf files. Why is that, so it cannot be traced as fake. Putin must be laughing into his vodka.

[Sujo]

29 minutes ago, riclag said:

"Meanwhile, another senior federal law enforcement official told Fox News that the emails are "authentic."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

 

The FBI has the laptop ,Its customary for them not to say anything on a investigation! The story has federal law enforcement saying  the emails are authentic!

Just confirming that its not russian disinfo by the intel(fbi) is spectacular and damming lol!

 

 

Again you miss the part where the fbi tells the senate it has nothing more to add to the committee. So its still nothing.

 

But we do have trumps newly found chinese bank account.

Edited October 21, 2020 by Sujo

[TopDeadSenter]

7 minutes ago, Sujo said:

It has no metadata, only pdf files. Why is that, so it cannot be traced as fake. Putin must be laughing into his vodka.

link proving the actual laptop Giulinani handed in to the Delaware police contained no metadata and only pdf files please?