Brexit brinkmanship: Johnson says prepare for no-deal, cancels trade talks

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

what's the matter, lost all sense of humor....in case you didn't notice, it was a joke, thus the  555 or  ahhh ahhh ahhh

Well, in future I suggest you mark your posts either "(serious)" or "(joke)" so we will know....

[david555]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

I am having a bad feeling about that call, now that Trump is out of the picture and Biden told the UK to respect the deal made,  BJ is having 2nd thoughts and wants to cancel Brexit and STAY in the EU .....555

Oh NO please not now …!! 

As the money start roll's in ...as Brexit seems  finalizing ….????

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-06/goldman-moving-up-to-60-billion-of-assets-to-germany-on-brexit

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

By Viren Vaghela and Steven Arons 

6 November 2020, 20:15 GMT+7 Updated on 6 November 2020, 22:19 GMT+7

 

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. is shifting as much as $60 billion of assets from the U.K. to Frankfurt, the latest sign that banks are beefing up their European Union operations ahead of Brexit.

 

????

Edited November 7, 2020 by david555

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, RayC said:

Myself and 7by7 have never met, although I'm more than willing to have a pint with him if we happen to be in the same location at the same time. How about you, Vogie, Loiner et al? Do you get together much?

 

We all share the same office.

[dunroaming]

As the final death nails are hammered into Trump's coffin,  Boris has announced that he will be having last minute negotiations with Ursula Von De Leyen with a phone call on Saturday.  Should be interesting ????

[vogie]

7 hours ago, RayC said:

Myself and 7by7 have never met, although I'm more than willing to have a pint with him if we happen to be in the same location at the same time. How about you, Vogie, Loiner et al? Do you get together much?

We often go for a pint after work, but like to give the remainer bars a miss, they're easy to spot as they generally have their remainer song blaring out of the pub by Dean Martin 'whose that fool in the corner, I say it's that little old whine remainer me'.

 

[RayC]

3 hours ago, Tofer said:

And visa versa with your 3.6M EU citizens taking the same free health care in UK, not having contributed all their lives into the NHS.

Wasn't that your original point? As @david555 pointed out, a large proportion of that 3.6m will be working and therefore paying tax and NI in the UK. Hardly freeloaders.

[Rookiescot]

40 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

We all share the same office.

 

This one? 

 

????

 

[RayC]

19 minutes ago, vogie said:

We often go for a pint after work, but like to give the remainer bars a miss, they're easy to spot as they generally have their remainer song blaring out of the pub by Dean Martin 'whose that fool in the corner, I say it's that little old whine remainer me'.

 

I think that I may have seen you all recently. It was film night in the pub. 'Charge of the Light Brigade' was showing.

[nauseus]

14 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

This one? 

 

????

 

 

I always got the impression that the EU Parliament was a bit bigger than that. 

[transam]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

We often go for a pint after work, but like to give the remainer bars a miss, they're easy to spot as they generally have their remainer song blaring out of the pub by Dean Martin 'whose that fool in the corner, I say it's that little old whine remainer me'.

 

........plus they share a beer with straws..................????

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

I think that I may have seen you all recently. It was film night in the pub. 'Charge of the Light Brigade' was showing.

Nah it was Battle of Britain.

Followed by the Last Night of the Proms.

There were genuine tears from the patriots as they sang Land of Hope and Glory. ????

[transam]

10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Nah it was Battle of Britain.

Followed by the Last Night of the Proms.

There were genuine tears from the patriots as they sang Land of Hope and Glory. ????

You were there then, were you an usherette........????

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

You were there then, were you an usherette........????

Yes and I sold you some Gitanes cigarettes along with condoms and lubricant. 

Although I did notice you were embarrassed about the cigarettes ????.

[7by7]

18 hours ago, kingdong said:

Can,t speak for my learned friend,however being a resident of the uk can only suggest if you lived here it would answer your question.

 

You are suggesting that people who don't live in the UK don't know enough about the subject.

 

Treading on dangerous ground there; most of your fellow Brexiteers here live in Thailand!

[3NUMBAS]

EU contempt laid bare: Maastricht Treaty meant to be kept SECRET from citizens

THE EUROPEAN UNION wanted to keep the Maastricht Treaty secret from the public - but because Denmark was legally obligated to have a referendum on it, copies of the Treaty ended up being leaked to a newspaper in the UK, Ukip founder Alan Sked has told Express.co.uk.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1357092/eu-news-brexit-deal-trade-maastricht-treaty-john-major-spt?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads

[7by7]

18 hours ago, nauseus said:

18 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Make your mind up.

 

Project Fear was a Vote.Leave campaign slogan.  

 

Oh dear. Wrong again.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/20/brexit-eu-referendum-economy-project-fear

 

Where does it say in that article that Remain made up, let alone used, the 'Project Fear' slogan?

 

It doesn't!

 

In fact the author, Larry Elliott

Quote

supported Britain leaving the European Union^[3][4] after having voted to leave the EEC in 1975^[5]. Elliott is an outspoken critic of the European Union, authoring articles for the Guardian such as “Brexit is a rejection of Globalisation,”^[6] saying that the decision of the UK population to leave the European Union in 2016, is testament to the failure of the E.U. to act on promises it previously made to protect its member states from the worst extends of Globalisation. In Elliott's view, these include the funding of more affordable homes, and the provision of more employment opportunities. ^[7]

 

Hardly a Remainer!

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

EU contempt laid bare: Maastricht Treaty meant to be kept SECRET from citizens

THE EUROPEAN UNION wanted to keep the Maastricht Treaty secret from the public - but because Denmark was legally obligated to have a referendum on it, copies of the Treaty ended up being leaked to a newspaper in the UK, Ukip founder Alan Sked has told Express.co.uk.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1357092/eu-news-brexit-deal-trade-maastricht-treaty-john-major-spt?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads

and again you use the Express as a fact check, same as Trump using Fox News, both very reliable sources of info..... 555

[7by7]

18 hours ago, vinny41 said:

18 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 So your much trumpeted 2010 poll is as meaningless as any other; glad we agree at last.

Yes similar to the link that you provided 

25 September 2020

question 

If there was another referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU, how would you vote?

remain 43%

leave 43%

don't know/undecided 13%

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/

 

so if you add the 13% undecided to both the remain and leave gives you 56% remain or 56% leave

 

Whereas if you do it with the 24th October 2020 one you'd end up with 58% for Remain or 55% for leave. Do it with the  11 December 2019 one and you'd end up with 53% Remain or 49% Leave!

 

You can play such mathematical games with both set polls to produce the result that suits you. Reputable polling organisations, though, don't.

 

However, neither campaign wasted their time and money targeting  those who had already made up their mind; whether they'd been committed Leavers or Remainers since 1975 or became so later! They targeted the don't knows.

[3NUMBAS]

EU set to impose tariffs on $4 billion U.S. goods next week

By Philip Blenkinsop, Andrea Shalal

4 Min Read

 

BRUSSELS/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The European Union is poised to move next week to impose tariffs on $4 billion of U.S. imports in retaliation for U.S. subsidies for planemaker Boeing, EU diplomats said, teeing up an eleventh-hour showdown with U.S. President Donald Trump.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/wto-aircraft-eu/eu-set-to-impose-tariffs-on-4-billion-u-s-goods-next-week-idUSKBN27M2H9

[Mavideol]

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

EU set to impose tariffs on $4 billion U.S. goods next week

By Philip Blenkinsop, Andrea Shalal

4 Min Read

 

BRUSSELS/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The European Union is poised to move next week to impose tariffs on $4 billion of U.S. imports in retaliation for U.S. subsidies for planemaker Boeing, EU diplomats said, teeing up an eleventh-hour showdown with U.S. President Donald Trump.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/wto-aircraft-eu/eu-set-to-impose-tariffs-on-4-billion-u-s-goods-next-week-idUSKBN27M2H9

what goes around comes around, pay back time

[7by7]

9 hours ago, transam said:

Then explain the Boris landslide GE victory, a few months back, if folk found out about your Brexit lies AFTER the referendum...And please don't come back with anything to do with Corbyn......

 

Two points.

 

1) Whilst a 50 seat majority is a landslide; remember that only 43.8% of voters actually voted for the Tories. Add on the other parties who supported Johnson and his Withdrawal Agreement and you still wont get above 50%.

 

Remember, too, that while Labour's share went down by 7.8%, the Tories only increased by 1.2%. 

 

2) The main thrust of the Conservatives campaign was getting Brexit done via Johnson's withdrawal agreement. Indeed, he only called the election because he could not get that agreement through Parliament any other way!

 

But it seems we were conned by Johnson yet again, because he now metaphorically wants to cut that agreement into squares, punch a hole in one corner and send it to Brussels with a note attached "Bogs for the use of!"

[7by7]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

This one? 

 

????

 

 I suspect that as the full effects of Brexit bite and they have to return to the UK, it will be this one

 

(That's a joke, @transam!)

[Rookiescot]

17 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

EU set to impose tariffs on $4 billion U.S. goods next week

By Philip Blenkinsop, Andrea Shalal

4 Min Read

 

BRUSSELS/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The European Union is poised to move next week to impose tariffs on $4 billion of U.S. imports in retaliation for U.S. subsidies for planemaker Boeing, EU diplomats said, teeing up an eleventh-hour showdown with U.S. President Donald Trump.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/wto-aircraft-eu/eu-set-to-impose-tariffs-on-4-billion-u-s-goods-next-week-idUSKBN27M2H9

You understand that Trump imposed huge tariffs upon EU goods over a year ago?

You are aware of that yes?

Including a 25% tariff on Scotch Whisky. You know the stuff made in the UK. By British people.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Two points.

 

1) Whilst a 50 seat majority is a landslide; remember that only 43.8% of voters actually voted for the Tories. Add on the other parties who supported Johnson and his Withdrawal Agreement and you still wont get above 50%.

 

Remember, too, that while Labour's share went down by 7.8%, the Tories only increased by 1.2%. 

 

2) The main thrust of the Conservatives campaign was getting Brexit done via Johnson's withdrawal agreement. Indeed, he only called the election because he could not get that agreement through Parliament any other way!

 

But it seems we were conned by Johnson yet again, because he now metaphorically wants to cut that agreement into squares, punch a hole in one corner and send it to Brussels with a note attached "Bogs for the use of!"

 

Boris had time to read it all properly while he was recovering - in the bog probably - which is where it should stay, until finally flushed. 

 

Might need to give it a prod or two though.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

You are suggesting that people who don't live in the UK don't know enough about the subject.

 

Treading on dangerous ground there; most of your fellow Brexiteers here live in Thailand!

On your first point,about the effects of the eu on residents living in the uk obviously not,thought you might have even grasped that,on your second point why am i treading on dangerous ground?i do not reside in thailand,i would say anyone living there as a guest is on dangerous ground or  thin ice,don,t know why they,re so worried about the uk,they made their bed when they settled in thailand now they,ve got to lie in it.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

You understand that Trump imposed huge tariffs upon EU goods over a year ago?

You are aware of that yes?

Including a 25% tariff on Scotch Whisky. You know the stuff made in the UK. By British people.

And you want to rejoin the eu if scotland gets its independence?you couldn't make it up,even rats know when to desert a sinking ship.

[david555]

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Boris had time to read it all properly while he was recovering - in the bog probably - which is where it should stay, until finally flushed. 

 

Might need to give it a prod or two though.

So ...is he retarded ?….as he needed that  "dead time " to understand what he agreed on ….., now I start understanding his failures & many U-Turns  ????

Edited November 7, 2020 by david555

[david555]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

And you want to rejoin the eu if scotland gets its independence?you couldn't make it up,even rats know when to desert a sinking ship.

 

"even rats know when to desert a sinking ship."

 

 

So you are surely not a rat...????

 

(As you stay aboard U.K.)

 

[kingdong]

9 minutes ago, david555 said:

 

"even rats know when to desert a sinking ship."

 

 

So you are surely not a rat...????

 

(As you stay aboard U.K.)

 

Yeah,a country that deserted a sinking ship...the eu,clear enough for you?

 

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Whereas if you do it with the 24th October 2020 one you'd end up with 58% for Remain or 55% for leave. Do it with the  11 December 2019 one and you'd end up with 53% Remain or 49% Leave!

 

You can play such mathematical games with both set polls to produce the result that suits you. Reputable polling organisations, though, don't.

 

However, neither campaign wasted their time and money targeting  those who had already made up their mind; whether they'd been committed Leavers or Remainers since 1975 or became so later! They targeted the don't knows.

Big red bus the symbol of democracy.

[david555]

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Yeah,a country that deserted a sinking ship...the eu,clear enough for you?

 

Big red bus the symbol of democracy.

Big red bus the symbol of democracy.

 

why not go on pilgrimage to it ….? A new cult could be born ...????