Trump barnstorms Florida while Biden campaigns in Michigan, early vote surges

[JCauto]

23 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Sure. Right in the middle of a pandemic 56% of Americans feel they are better off than at the end of Obamas 8 years. Says it all to me. 

And you'll be providing us a link to that reputable source that you accidentally forgot to post, right?

[TopDeadSenter]

53 minutes ago, JCauto said:

And you'll be providing us a link to that reputable source that you accidentally forgot to post, right?

Yes mate.

 

"In a Gallup poll taken Sept. 14-28, more than 1,000 Americans were asked "to compare your situation today with what it was four years ago. Are you better off than you were four years ago or not?" 

A whopping 56% said they are better off. Just under a third (32%) said they were not."

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/biden-says-americans-who-think-theyre-better-four-years-ago-shouldnt-vote

[Phoenix Rising]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Can you explain away the corroborating witness? Confirming they are real.

 

Can you explain why the Bidens are not frantically denying the computer and emails. They have had over 48 hours now, and the best they have is a meeting was not in his "official schedule". One heck of a poor denial.

 

Tucker Carlson has made it very clear.......

Aaand I'm out.....

[Phoenix Rising]

10 hours ago, bendejo said:

Former presidents get 24-hour Secret Service protection the rest of their lives.  I don't know if they have the option to refuse it.

So if the hammer comes down on him and his when he's out of office would his bodyguards become his captors?  This is probably the first time the Service is facing this possible dilemma.

 

 

Looks like he'll try to do a runner and I'm prepping the popcorn if he does!

 

'Trump says 'maybe I'll have to leave the country' if he loses the 2020 election to Joe Biden'

[Phoenix Rising]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Fact??????

 

Sources have told Fox News......

And you lap it up but when NYT and CNN quote sources you dismiss them out of hand.

The hypocrisy is strong in this one.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Also, Giuliani has been holding on to this for months. But he is just releasing it in October. Usually, when a media outlet is handed a piece of news like this, it carefully and independently vets it. NY Post assigned 2 reporters with no experience in investigative report to the story. Apparently, they just took Giuliani's word about its authenticity.

One use to work for Hannity LOL

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Also, Giuliani has been holding on to this for months.

he needed time to make the scam look as real as possible...., copy, paste, insert, delete, redact and redact, create back up "fakes" on their hosting sites, it all takes time.... it's taking more then 4 years to decipher his fake Russia/Ukraine collision involvement, nobody takes him or Fox serious anymore, they are just desperate blokes

[placeholder]

58 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Yes mate.

 

"In a Gallup poll taken Sept. 14-28, more than 1,000 Americans were asked "to compare your situation today with what it was four years ago. Are you better off than you were four years ago or not?" 

A whopping 56% said they are better off. Just under a third (32%) said they were not."

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/biden-says-americans-who-think-theyre-better-four-years-ago-shouldnt-vote

Interesting to see you're finally accepting polling. Since that's the case I'm afraid I've got some really bad news for you.,,

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Looks like he'll try to do a runner and I'm prepping the popcorn if he does!

 

'Trump says 'maybe I'll have to leave the country' if he loses the 2020 election to Joe Biden'

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"I could raise more money," he said. "I would be the world's greatest fund-raiser, but I just don't want to do it."

This guy is more insecure than a 15 year old with severe acne.

 

Any bets on where he'd go?  Russia. I would suspect the people have there have some choice monikers for him, like "Putin's donut."

Israel, if Bibi isn't in prison yet.

Hopefully he'll take the whole den of thieves with him.

 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

3 minutes ago, bendejo said:

This guy is more insecure than a 15 year old with severe acne.

 

Any bets on where he'd go?  Russia. I would suspect the people have there have some choice monikers for him, like "Putin's donut."

Israel, if Bibi isn't in prison yet.

Hopefully he'll take the whole den of thieves with him.

 

 

He'll probably do a runner without even notifying wife and children. That's the guy he is, and he's shown it clearly since he ran (despite the severe bone spurs) from his duty when his country called on him.

[Rimmer]

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[Silurian]

Go on, keep your hopes pinned to a convoluted story about some blind computer repairman receiving some laptops from a drunken individual that might or might not be Hunter Biden. Then after "reading" thousands of emails forwards them to the FBI and Giuliani because of someone might be after him. A smoking gun email talks about this "Big Guy" who isn't identified.

 

Yeah, the average voter is supposed to be able to follow this bewildering mess and come up with the conclusion that Joe Biden is a criminal?  Yeah, right. But go on, keep it up. I guess this is your best chance at trying to tarnish Joe Biden. Pfft.

 

What we know – and don't know – about Hunter Biden's alleged laptop

 

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But the owner of the computer store, John Paul MacIsaac, was unable and unwilling to answer key questions about how the laptop supposedly arrived in his store, and eventually, how the data was shared with Giuliani. CBS News interviewed MacIsaac for almost two hours on Wednesday and throughout the interview he contradicted himself about his motivations, raising questions about the truthfulness of one of the central figures in the story.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Looks like he'll try to do a runner and I'm prepping the popcorn if he does!

 

'Trump says 'maybe I'll have to leave the country' if he loses the 2020 election to Joe Biden'

 

Trump's musings about being willing to leave the U.S., if he loses the presidential election, ought to be worth at least an extra 10% advantage for Biden in the voting.... 

 

Then, if Trump also promised to stop filling Twitter with false and fake "news", conspiracy theory rubbish and related junk, that would be worth another extra 10% for Biden...

 

Sadly, though, I doubt Trump will go away quietly... Though at this point, it's pretty clear the majority of Americans wish he would just go away...period!

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

By this point in the process, the American people pretty well know just exactly who Trump is, and just who Biden is... And all of the false junk that's going to be thrown at the public between now and election day shouldn't change that.

 

It's a sad commentary, though, on the U.S. political process that the Russians, if they're involved as many suspect, and totally discredited partisans like Giuliani and Bannon become the sources for such B.S. that manages to make its way into the news cycles as the latest "October surprise" propaganda.

 

[Sujo]

4 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

And you lap it up but when NYT and CNN quote sources you dismiss them out of hand.

The hypocrisy is strong in this one.

And has the nerve to quote tucker carlson as fact.

 

The same tucker carlson who won a defamation case with the defence that he is not news, only opinion and cannot be relied on as factual.

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Here's a link to a fox news video of Trump at a rally in Michigan. He says "You got to get your governor to open up your state." You know, the governor who was recently the target of an alleged kidnap plot. Shortly thereafter the crowd begins to chant "Lock her up, lock her up..." Then Trump comments "lock them all up."

 

[teacherclaire]

I love his hair and the make up. There's either something wrong with his hair, or the make up artist. 

 

 

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Here's a link to a fox news video of Trump at a rally in Michigan. He says "You got to get your governor to open up your state." You know, the governor who was recently the target of an alleged kidnap plot. Shortly thereafter the crowd begins to chant "Lock her up, lock her up..." Then Trump comments "lock them all up."

 

Really sad behaviour from the president.

[LomSak27]

On 10/17/2020 at 2:55 PM, Isaan sailor said:

And no mention of Hunter Biden’s business connections with Burisma and the CCP?  Very curious.

Old Fake News.

 

This week Trump tweeted, oops retweeted, some downright bizarre gibberish. Like did Osama bin Laden survive the 2011 Navy SEAL raid on his compound by using a body double, and did former Vice President Joe Biden then order the murder of Navy SEALs to cover that fact up?

No I am not making that up The President of the United States re-tweeted it.  ????    Trump boosted that convoluted conspiracy theory twice on Twitter.

 

Americas ‘cray old uncle’ hard at work convincing those who dwell on the lunatic fringe, he is their man.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

12 hours ago, Walker88 said:

You are posting false and erroneous information from an unreliable source. A Moderator post above says such offenders could be suspended.

 

US Intel warned the WH months ago that Russia was using Giuliani to spread false information, using the term 'witting or unwitting fool' to refer to Giuliani.  Then this 'left off and forgotten laptop, supposedly to a shop run by a legally blind man, was opened and the blind man read some emails, which he then supposedly forwarded to the FBI (who remains unaware of said emails and laptop to this day). Neither SSCI nor HPSCI was given these 'emails', because they were not viewed as anything more than an FSB disinformation campaign, as both groups and the Gang of 8 had been briefed on the use of Giuliani as a 'witting or unwitting fool'.  This silly laptop nonsense was just shared with the NY Post. Certainly that says volumes about its veracity.

 

It is a ludicrous story that rational people would dismiss.

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

15 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Old Fake News.

 

This week Trump tweeted, oops retweeted, some downright bizarre gibberish. Like did Osama bin Laden survive the 2011 Navy SEAL raid on his compound by using a body double, and did former Vice President Joe Biden then order the murder of Navy SEALs to cover that fact up?

No I am not making that up The President of the United States re-tweeted it.  ????    Trump boosted that convoluted conspiracy theory twice on Twitter.

 

Americas ‘cray old uncle’ hard at work convincing those who dwell on the lunatic fringe, he is their man.

The fact that the Commander In Chief is actually sharing a theory that bin Laden is not dead should be alarming to EVERYBODY...if anybody should know if bin Laden is dead it should be the F'ing POTUS. Trump should have to own this...everybody including MAGA should hold him responsible for saying or "retweeting" something like this and giving it credence...Trump should be forced to own this...either PROVE it or retract it. So irresponsible....so typical. This goes beyond "trolling". 

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

 

It doesn't matter whether it is true or not. Just a trump card being played to get re-elected, facts don't matter.

[Silurian]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Here's a link to a fox news video of Trump at a rally in Michigan. He says "You got to get your governor to open up your state." You know, the governor who was recently the target of an alleged kidnap plot. Shortly thereafter the crowd begins to chant "Lock her up, lock her up..." Then Trump comments "lock them all up."

 

The same rally in Michigan where Donald asks Minnesota to vote for him. Donald doesn't even know what US state he is in.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

18 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Tucker Carlson has made it very clear there is irrefutable evidence the computer and emails are genuine. Until he is forced to retract, I consider your old information incorrect. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9

[JCauto]

On 10/18/2020 at 11:53 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Yes mate.

 

"In a Gallup poll taken Sept. 14-28, more than 1,000 Americans were asked "to compare your situation today with what it was four years ago. Are you better off than you were four years ago or not?" 

A whopping 56% said they are better off. Just under a third (32%) said they were not."

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/biden-says-americans-who-think-theyre-better-four-years-ago-shouldnt-vote

Thanks! You're one of the few of our Trump-loving brethren who actually follow up what they say rather than just blast a troll post "owning the libs" and disappear. Kudos to you for that.

 

Wonder what the usual percentages are to this question just before polling and how this compares. I think that would be the best measure of this measure.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

More from Gallop on the point raised above:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/gallup-poll-better-off-donald-trump/index.html

 

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What the Gallup numbers suggest is that even though people feel better off than they were at this time in 2016 -- a somewhat remarkable finding given the ongoing coronavirus pandemic -- they don't ascribe that better feeling to Trump and his policies.

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Consider Gallup's other findings as they relate to Trump. His job approval for the month of September in Gallup polling is 44%. (That compares to 49% for Barack Obama in September 2012, 53% for George w. Bush in September 2004 and 60% for Bill Clinton in September 1996.) His personal favorability rating is 41% in Gallup's September data; at this time in 2012, Obama's personal favorable rating was 55%.

 

 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

I wonder how many of the resident base trump supporters are believers.

 

'New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon's imaginary claims'

[xylophone]

52 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I wonder how many of the resident base trump supporters are believers.

 

'New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Half of Trump supporters believe QAnon's imaginary claims'

Absolutely unbelievable how anyone could believe this absolute rubbish, but then again there are trump supporters out there, and here, who will believe such stuff, and I wonder if it's because they are short in the mental faculty department, or just that they want to believe this lying huckster, no matter what he says.

 

God help America.
 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Absolutely unbelievable how anyone could believe this absolute rubbish, but then again there are trump supporters out there, and here, who will believe such stuff, and I wonder if it's because they are short in the mental faculty department, or just that they want to believe this lying huckster, no matter what he says.

 

God help America.
 

 

It's sadly amazing how Trump has truly brought out the lunatic fringe in the Republican Party, to the point that it can't be called a "fringe" anymore, but instead, the Q-Anon types are increasingly influential.

 

This is what re-electing Trump would promote in the U.S.  More of this...

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html

 

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Republican Voters Take a Radical Conspiracy Theory Mainstream

QAnon, with encouragement from the president himself, has moved from online message boards to political rallies and congressional campaigns.
 

DALTON, Ga. — Sitting in the local Republican office most days is a lifelong conservative named Diane Putnam, who got her first taste of politics when Dwight D. Eisenhower was president and she was a little girl telling people that she liked Ike.
 

She still does. But these days, what really grabs Ms. Putnam’s attention is talk of a satanic criminal conspiracy hatched by a cabal of “deep state” child molesters who are seeking to take down President Trump. In other words, she believes in QAnon. She insists she is just one of many.