Four in ten supporters of Biden, Trump would not accept election defeat

[earlinclaifornia]

3 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

If for some reson Trump were to lose the initial count of the electoral vote he would have the option of having the SCOTUS take a look at it.  The same is true for Biden.  The court would then weight the merits of the case and decide.  So it all balances out in the end.

Being a loser is not the same as questiong voter fraud. No SCOTUS will not get to look, only with valid proof. Admitting you have lost is not valid proof.

[candide]

11 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Being a loser is not the same as questiong voter fraud. No SCOTUS will not get to look, only with valid proof. Admitting you have lost is not valid proof.

Exactly, Trump can bragg as much as he wants, the SCOTUS will not care about it unless he brings proof of it.

[ThailandRyan]

I think I will wait to see if either one plays the hanging Chad game.....or it could be the hanging Hilary now since she is now one of the Electoral College votes....

[Kelsall]

48 minutes ago, candide said:

Exactly, Trump can bragg as much as he wants, the SCOTUS will not care about it unless he brings proof of it.

???????????? We all know there will be plenty of proof of election fraud by the Democrats.

[candide]

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

???????????? We all know there will be plenty of proof of election fraud by the Democrats.

Trump's tweets are not accepted as proof, except by his fans.

[Jingthing]

Continuing on the historically deep division theme, this article appears to conclude something a little different. That if 45 wins, civil war may be the inevitable result. Biden winnimg on the other hand being objectively relatively moderate would by this reasoning throw alot of cold water on such a march to civil war.

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/left-and-right-are-radicalizing-each-other/616914/

 

 

The Answer to Extremism Isn’t More Extremism

America’s left and right are radicalizing each other, and the precedents from overseas are deeply unsettling.

Edited October 30, 2020 by Jingthing

[Morch]

On 10/29/2020 at 4:58 PM, 3NUMBAS said:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-nigel-farage-arizona-rally-075404255.html

 

Donald Trump invites Nigel Farage on stage to urge supporters to ‘vote for decency’ in US election

 

There are several Trump supporters on here routinely making an issue of posters who aren't US citizens commenting on the US elections. I'm sure they'll manage, but got to wonder how this will be addressed.

[ChouDoufu]

On 10/26/2020 at 10:56 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Her actual quote is

 

“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is,” Clinton said in an interview with her former communications director Jennifer Palmieri for Showtime's “The Circus,” which released a clip Tuesday."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156

 

Not sure where this "on the night" comes from? But the quote above contradicts this claim as it clearly means a longer timeframe than one night.

 

nice!

 

you conveniently started your transcript just AFTER she said:

 

"...they have a couple scenarios that they're looking toward.  one is messing up absentee balloting, so that they get, then, maybe a narrow advantage in the electoral college, on election day."

 

as much as i despise her, it seems dishonest to remove the context from her quote, from the very video you linked to, and then claim you're "not sure where 'on the night' comes from."

 

you know very well she's referencing the postal service allegedly slowing deliveries and republican court cases to prevent states from counting legal ballots postmarked before the election but received later being counted, that votes will continue to be tallied in the following days, and that suits will be filed by both sides.

[Scott]

Troll post removed.

 

[ChouDoufu]

On 10/26/2020 at 2:42 PM, timkeen08 said:

"The survey, conducted from Oct. 13-20, shows 43% of Biden supporters would not accept a Trump victory, while 41% of Americans who want to re-elect Trump would not accept a win by Biden".

 

What I read from this is the inference, intentional or not, that Biden supporters are not Americans but specifically "Americans who want to re-elect Trump" are.  Made my day.  How did they let this slip by?

 

if it's any consolation, the wording stood out to me immediately as well.  i did not assume any bias on the part of the writer, but rather an attempt at not repeating the same phrase in one sentence.

 

of course following your logic, "americans who want to re-elect trump" are not necessarily trump supporters, but were like me in the last election "not her, anybody but her!" voters choosing the least despicable of the two viable offerings.

[MaxYakov]

Voter fraud is probably like cockroaches or bedbugs in the home: If you see one, you've got 200.

[candide]

2 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

Voter fraud is probably like cockroaches or bedbugs in the home: If you see one, you've got 200.

It's really a lame attempt to promote the same old  debunked argument without any fact to support it.

Edited October 30, 2020 by candide

[MaxYakov]

2 hours ago, candide said:

5 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

Voter fraud is probably like cockroaches or bedbugs in the home: If you see one, you've got 200.

It's really a lame attempt to promote the same old  debunked argument without any fact to support it.

 

As to the  'same old debunked argument' - debunked when and by whom? If you're referring to that Presidential Commission that couldn't find any (or any substantive) voter fraud in the 2016 election - they had no motive to since it was a Trump administration commission and it was a clear case of conflict of interest. A Democratic member of the commission wrote a letter of condemnation of the commission citing bias. The member letter is easily found with an internet search, as is all of the below, which is publicly available by a simple internet search.

 

As to Nation-wide voter fraud, plenty of cockroaches out there - even a database of the cockroaches.

 

Recent  Voter Fraud News 

 

1) James O'Keefe Exposes Ballot Harvesting All Over The Country-wide video evidence
 

2) Key Suspect in Dallas Voter Fraud Case Arrested

 

Voter Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

 

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. 1,298 Proven instances of voter fraud - 1,121 Criminal convictions - 48 Civil penalties ...

 

Types of Voter Fraud:

 

IMPERSONATION FRAUD AT THE POLLS: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

 

FALSE REGISTRATIONS: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

 

DUPLICATE VOTING: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

 

FRAUDULENT USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

 

BUYING VOTES: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

 

ILLEGAL “ASSISTANCE” AT THE POLLS: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

 

INELIGIBLE VOTING: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

 

ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

 

BALLOT PETITION FRAUD: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

 

Of course all of the above Types of Voter Fraud and the Heritage Foundation database are based on voter fraud that does not exist or has been debunked, yes? How gullible do you think people are, anyway?

 

Why don't you go through The Heritage Foundation's database and personally 'debunk' the 1,298 criminal convictions - one by one and get back to us with the 'debunking' results?

 

[J Town]

Sour grapes and hot air.

[placeholder]

12 minutes ago, MaxYakov said:

 

As to the  'same old debunked argument' - debunked when and by whom? If you're referring to that Presidential Commission that couldn't find any (or any substantive) voter fraud in the 2016 election - they had no motive to since it was a Trump administration commission and it was a clear case of conflict of interest. A Democratic member of the commission wrote a letter of condemnation of the commission citing bias. The member letter is easily found with an internet search, as is all of the below, which is publicly available by a simple internet search.

 

As to Nation-wide voter fraud, plenty of cockroaches out there - even a database of the cockroaches.

 

Recent  Voter Fraud News 

 

1) James O'Keefe Exposes Ballot Harvesting All Over The Country-wide video evidence
 

2) Key Suspect in Dallas Voter Fraud Case Arrested

 

Voter Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

 

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. 1,298 Proven instances of voter fraud - 1,121 Criminal convictions - 48 Civil penalties ...

 

Types of Voter Fraud:

 

IMPERSONATION FRAUD AT THE POLLS: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

 

FALSE REGISTRATIONS: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

 

DUPLICATE VOTING: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

 

FRAUDULENT USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

 

BUYING VOTES: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

 

ILLEGAL “ASSISTANCE” AT THE POLLS: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

 

INELIGIBLE VOTING: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

 

ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

 

BALLOT PETITION FRAUD: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

 

Of course all of the above Types of Voter Fraud and the Heritage Foundation database are based on voter fraud that does not exist or has been debunked, yes? How gullible do you think people are, anyway?

 

Why don't you go through The Heritage Foundation's database and personally 'debunk' the 1,298 criminal convictions - one by one and get back to us with the 'debunking' results?

 

Analysis: Heritage Foundation's Database Undermines Claims of Recent Voter Fraud

  The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity relies on a database produced by the Heritage Foundation to justify baseless claims — by President Trump and some of the panel’s members — of rampant voter fraud. But according to an analysis of the database by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law, the numbers in the database reveal exactly the opposite... 
Claims that the database contains almost 1,100 proven instances of voter fraud are grossly exaggerated and devoid of context, according to      Heritage Fraud Database: An Assessment. 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/analysis-heritage-foundations-database-undermines-claims-recent-voter

Edited October 31, 2020 by placeholder

[earlinclaifornia]

13 minutes ago, MaxYakov said:

 

As to the  'same old debunked argument' - debunked when and by whom? If you're referring to that Presidential Commission that couldn't find any (or any substantive) voter fraud in the 2016 election - they had no motive to since it was a Trump administration commission and it was a clear case of conflict of interest. A Democratic member of the commission wrote a letter of condemnation of the commission citing bias. The member letter is easily found with an internet search, as is all of the below, which is publicly available by a simple internet search.

 

As to Nation-wide voter fraud, plenty of cockroaches out there - even a database of the cockroaches.

 

Recent  Voter Fraud News 

 

1) James O'Keefe Exposes Ballot Harvesting All Over The Country-wide video evidence
 

2) Key Suspect in Dallas Voter Fraud Case Arrested

 

Voter Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

 

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. 1,298 Proven instances of voter fraud - 1,121 Criminal convictions - 48 Civil penalties ...

 

Types of Voter Fraud:

 

IMPERSONATION FRAUD AT THE POLLS: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

 

FALSE REGISTRATIONS: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

 

DUPLICATE VOTING: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

 

FRAUDULENT USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

 

BUYING VOTES: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

 

ILLEGAL “ASSISTANCE” AT THE POLLS: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

 

INELIGIBLE VOTING: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

 

ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

 

BALLOT PETITION FRAUD: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

 

Of course all of the above Types of Voter Fraud and the Heritage Foundation database are based on voter fraud that does not exist or has been debunked, yes? How gullible do you think people are, anyway?

 

Why don't you go through The Heritage Foundation's database and personally 'debunk' the 1,298 criminal convictions - one by one and get back to us with the 'debunking' results?

 

debunked argument.  Heritage:  strongly biased toward conservative causes 

As in FAKE NEWS.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heritage-foundation/

[Dinkus]

On 10/25/2020 at 5:27 PM, Slip said:

What a nonsense article. "Would not accept"?  Short of armed insurrection no-one polled has any choice but to accept.  Are they confusing the word "accept" with the word "like"? 

 

Meanwhile we can thank Trump and the spineless republican party for the fact that this is even a topic for discussion in U.S. politics and trash articles such as this even see the light of day.

 

 

 

Totally agree. There seems to be some confusion over "accept" here. If anyone is going to "not accept" defeat, I would think it would be Trump himself. Seems like he's done nothing but whine and complain the whole presidency and I wouldn't expect him to take a loss with anymore grace than a toddler that's had a toy taken from them. 

[placeholder]

12 minutes ago, Dinkus said:

 

Totally agree. There seems to be some confusion over "accept" here. If anyone is going to "not accept" defeat, I would think it would be Trump himself. Seems like he's done nothing but whine and complain the whole presidency and I wouldn't expect him to take a loss with anymore grace than a toddler that's had a toy taken from them. 

A spiteful toddler with the power to do immense damage before he departs office.

[fruitman]

On 10/25/2020 at 11:27 PM, Slip said:

Meanwhile we can thank Trump and the spineless republican party for the fact that this is even a topic for discussion in U.S. politics and trash articles such as this even see the light of day.

 

As a non American this whole election  and Biden story is not something i would expect to happen in a first world country. Biden is as corrupt as an Asian leader but he's still not jailed...amazing. I thought Trump was a strong leader, he should have arranged that first.

 

When Biden wins we have a new banana republic, a huge one this time...with a huge army....i can't see any good things coming from that.

[timkeen08]

10 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

if it's any consolation, the wording stood out to me immediately as well.  i did not assume any bias on the part of the writer, but rather an attempt at not repeating the same phrase in one sentence.

 

of course following your logic, "americans who want to re-elect trump" are not necessarily trump supporters, but were like me in the last election "not her, anybody but her!" voters choosing the least despicable of the two viable offerings.

I am sure that it was quite unintentional.  I agree that voting has always been only one of two options.  That is one reason why I never voted and am basically nonpolitical.  But, everything I've seen the last 4 years especially this year has convinced me that a vote against any form of socialism, anarchy, or by whatever they want to call it is my only option and mainly dependant on SSA for my stay in Thailand as a big factor.  That and the egregious hatred abound.  The statement just instantly struck me as hilarious concidering the way things are going politically.  Not saying I never kept myself unaware of politics, I just never cared.  But America is in dire straits.  I have family and friends in America that all see things the right way so therefore go I.

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, fruitman said:

As a non American this whole election  and Biden story is not something i would expect to happen in a first world country. Biden is as corrupt as an Asian leader but he's still not jailed...amazing. I thought Trump was a strong leader, he should have arranged that first.

 

When Biden wins we have a new banana republic, a huge one this time...with a huge army....i can't see any good things coming from that.

We Americans are quite partial to bannas. How about your country?

[earlinclaifornia]

On 10/26/2020 at 7:22 PM, PattayaJames said:

 

That is not true, he has done so Many Many Many Many Many times, just as he has condemned white supremacists. You just choose not to hear.

In fact more accurately you just lie about it. 

 

 

Birther this

[candide]

6 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

 

As to the  'same old debunked argument' - debunked when and by whom? If you're referring to that Presidential Commission that couldn't find any (or any substantive) voter fraud in the 2016 election - they had no motive to since it was a Trump administration commission and it was a clear case of conflict of interest. A Democratic member of the commission wrote a letter of condemnation of the commission citing bias. The member letter is easily found with an internet search, as is all of the below, which is publicly available by a simple internet search.

 

As to Nation-wide voter fraud, plenty of cockroaches out there - even a database of the cockroaches.

 

Recent  Voter Fraud News 

 

1) James O'Keefe Exposes Ballot Harvesting All Over The Country-wide video evidence
 

2) Key Suspect in Dallas Voter Fraud Case Arrested

 

Voter Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

 

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. 1,298 Proven instances of voter fraud - 1,121 Criminal convictions - 48 Civil penalties ...

 

Types of Voter Fraud:

 

IMPERSONATION FRAUD AT THE POLLS: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

 

FALSE REGISTRATIONS: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

 

DUPLICATE VOTING: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

 

FRAUDULENT USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

 

BUYING VOTES: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

 

ILLEGAL “ASSISTANCE” AT THE POLLS: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

 

INELIGIBLE VOTING: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

 

ALTERING THE VOTE COUNT: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

 

BALLOT PETITION FRAUD: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

 

Of course all of the above Types of Voter Fraud and the Heritage Foundation database are based on voter fraud that does not exist or has been debunked, yes? How gullible do you think people are, anyway?

 

Why don't you go through The Heritage Foundation's database and personally 'debunk' the 1,298 criminal convictions - one by one and get back to us with the 'debunking' results?

 

Yes the same arguments which have been debunked several times in this forum.

I am surprised you cite Dunlap's letter as it doesn't support your argument. He complained about a pro-Trump bias in the commission and also said "It's calling into the darkness, looking for voter fraud," Dunlap, told The Associated Press. "There's no real evidence of it anywhere."

 

About the Heritage Foundation database, it's been also debunked. The number looks impressive (1300 cases), but it covers a period of more than 30 years and all elections, including local, primaries, etc... So in reality it's peanuts. Each case usually concerns only a few ballots and don't show a coordination between the different cases. There is absolutely no proof of massive fraud as claimed by Trump in his tweets.

 

As to ballot harvesting, it's completely legal in some States and used by both parties. What is illegal, is the GOP's fake ballot boxes.

[ChouDoufu]

6 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

As to the  'same old debunked argument' - debunked when and by whom? If you're referring to that Presidential Commission that couldn't find any (or any substantive) voter fraud in the 2016 election - they had no motive to since it was a Trump administration commission and it was a clear case of conflict of interest. A Democratic member of the commission wrote a letter of condemnation of the commission citing bias. The member letter is easily found with an internet search, as is all of the below, which is publicly available by a simple internet search.

 

no motive?  the trump regime had every reason to find (or manufacture) evidence of voter fraud, especially in california and new york, to "prove" trump actually won the popular vote.

 

Reality Check: Did millions vote illegally in the US?

 

The claim: Donald Trump would have won the popular vote in last year's US presidential election had it not been for people voting illegally.

Reality Check verdict: There is no evidence to support the assertion that at least 2.86 million people voted illegally.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed on Tuesday that President Donald Trump stands by his concerns about illegal voting.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38744612

 

Lindsey Graham to Trump: Stop Claiming 'Illegals' Cost You Popular Vote

 

Exasperated Republican senator Lindsey Graham pleaded with President Donald Trump on Tuesday to stop repeating his widely debunked claim that millions of so-called "illegals" cost him the popular vote.

"To continue to suggest that the 2016 election was conducted in a fashion that millions of people voted illegally undermines faith in our democracy," Graham, of South Carolina, told reporters in a hallway of the Dirksen Senate Office Building in D.C. "It’s not coming from a candidate for the office, it's coming from the man who holds the office. So I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/gop-senator-president-trump-stop-claiming-illegals-cost-you-popular-n711386

[Pattaya Spotter]

Not a quitter...????????????

 

Trump may just keep campaigning after Election Day

 

Even if there isn’t a clear winner the day after the election, President Trump may take his message on the road. Top surrogates for the campaign have been told to keep Novembers clear for potential campaign events. And Trump campaign advisers said not to rule out the possibility Trump continues his rallies even as election officials continue to count ballots after the Nov. 3 election.  https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/30/trumps-maga-roadshow-ballots-tallied-433720

[ChouDoufu]

38 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Not a quitter...????????????

 

Trump may just keep campaigning after Election Day

 

Even if there isn’t a clear winner the day after the election, President Trump may take his message on the road. Top surrogates for the campaign have been told to keep Novembers clear for potential campaign events. And Trump campaign advisers said not to rule out the possibility Trump continues his rallies even as election officials continue to count ballots after the Nov. 3 election.  https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/30/trumps-maga-roadshow-ballots-tallied-433720

 

well, thank dog he won't be hanging around the white house coordinating the virus response strategy.  that would be a waste of his final 2-1/2 months in office.

 

perhaps, while he's out on the road, he could attend a few funerals for the 1000 americans dying daily of the virus.

 

oh, no wait, trump jr claimed on fox that deaths were down to nothing.......

[placeholder]

8 hours ago, fruitman said:

As a non American this whole election  and Biden story is not something i would expect to happen in a first world country. Biden is as corrupt as an Asian leader but he's still not jailed...amazing. I thought Trump was a strong leader, he should have arranged that first.

 

When Biden wins we have a new banana republic, a huge one this time...with a huge army....i can't see any good things coming from that.

And not just a non American but a non clear thinker on this topic as well. What exactly did Biden do that was corrupt?

And given the level of profiteering that Trump and his children and in-laws have garnered, even if Biden had done something corrupt, he would be a piker compared to them.

Edited October 31, 2020 by placeholder

[placeholder]

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

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Edited October 31, 2020 by placeholder

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Not a quitter...????????????

 

Trump may just keep campaigning after Election Day

 

Even if there isn’t a clear winner the day after the election, President Trump may take his message on the road. Top surrogates for the campaign have been told to keep Novembers clear for potential campaign events. And Trump campaign advisers said not to rule out the possibility Trump continues his rallies even as election officials continue to count ballots after the Nov. 3 election.  https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/30/trumps-maga-roadshow-ballots-tallied-433720

He may not be a quitter but not quite right in his mind either. What votes is he campaigning for? Ballots that may still be in the mail?

[Neeranam]

I think it is more than 4/10. Some still can't accept defeat after 4 years ! Those damn Russians.