Infected foreigners have to pay for everything themselves, doctor assures Thais

[wolf81]

6 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Morgue?

 

Joke aside, aren't they supposed to have that 100k US$ covid insurance?

From my understanding that doesn't cover intensive care. Lol ????

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

 

There was a document posted on this form some time ago  listing the different prices   see attached PDF

hospital dual price.pdf 3.18 MB · 1 download

 

Can't be bothered to read all that, its not important to me the prices of anything go up and down

My doctors fee the same and medication has gone up a bit from last year but not by much.

I get good treatment at my local public hospital that's what important to me.

 

 

[teacherclaire]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Maybe there get the old machine guns back in service they used to shoot drug affenders with. ????

Must be great fun for the delinquent. 

[ronaldo0]

Is thailand the only place that is asking for several tests before arrival , Covid insurance and the person to pay their quarantine ? Or are there other countries doing the same ? 

[welshguy]

I dont know why I look on this website!

 

More and more nonsense being spouted every day!

 

Surely they cant believe people (non Thais that is!) take the things they say seriousy!?  They are a real laughing stock...beggars belief!

 

Im a "snowbird"...Im desperate to get back out there...I keep reading the pathetic ridiculous nonsense these so called experts spout  ou day in and day out...............I can honestly say, each day that passes, and the "announcements" that are being made...just sees me further and further (if ever) from returning to Thailand.

[scammed]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

And if they can't pay? Send them where?

they will be sent to nursing homes under guard

[bobbin]

3 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

Wow, that is a cheap premium.  Could you share with us the name of this wonderful insurance company.  I for one wish to sign up!

My coverage is from Dhipaya Insurance Pcl.. It's not easy to remember the spelling so I checked Google. I saw that Roojai (broker) also offers same coverage for 850 Baht/year.

[connda]

8 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A doctor at the infectious disease department said that any foreigner found to be infected with Covid-19 while in alternative state quarantine would be taken to a partner hospital in the private sector.

Translated:
The Thai government will funnel foreigners into the waiting arms of expensive private hospitals instead of allowing them to pay for the same services at a less expensive Thai government hospital. 
If Mussolini was still alive he's applaud the Thai economic model.  Private businesses and corporations working hand-in-hand with the government to increase the profitability in a captured market.  Sorta like what they are doing with mandatory insurance that is only accepted if it's a Thai insurance provider.    <clap clap clap>

[khunjeff]

8 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Those with no symptoms but who tested positive would have to stay in hospital for ten days after their positive test.

There is no medical justification for this that I'm aware of. In most countries, people with a positive result but no symptoms are specifically told NOT to go to a hospital, so as not to overburden medical facilities when no treatment is needed.

[connda]

7 hours ago, Sharp said:

Thought the compulsory insurance would surfice no?? 

Pretty neat gig.  Force the foreigners to purchase mandatory Covid insurance from only approved Thai insurers, and then if they get sick force the foreigners to seek medical care at only approved (expensive?) private hospitals (no wonder they required $100k worth of insurance, it probably will be needed with the inflated prices a foreigner captured within this elaborate scam scheme will be forced to pay should they get sick).  Fair enough, but they're not through:
Then - for the sake of stoking extreme xenophobia, have "expert" Thai doctors tell the Thai citizens that the dirty Covid carrying foreigners will not be allowed to be a burden on the Thai health system as all foreigners will be required to only seek care at private hospitals (as it is implicitly insinuated that foreigners would not pay if taken to a Thai government hospital and would surely attempt a runner <cue Thai citizen anger at all foreign scum>).   But all foreigners in Thai quarantine, however, are covered by $100,000 USD Covid insurance before they are allowed to enter the country, so the entire rant by Dr Opas Karnkawinpong et.al. is just an exercise in riling up the Thai citizenry at the expense of all foreigner "guests."  Applied xenophobia. For what purpose one wonders?  Why Thailand?

They really hate us, don't they?  I hope the entire tourism industry crashes, burns, and never recovers.  Don't expect any foreigner to have a ounce of sympathy for a country that seeks to wring as much out of a captured foreign audience as possible. What a pathetic, sad country.

[SunsetT]

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

And if they can't pay? Send them where?

That is what the compulsory insurance is for. They must pay for it.

[Blumpie]

Just stop and think for one solitary second.

You test negative before arriving.  It's in your blood but isn't detectable yet.  Or you catch it on the plane coming over here and develop it after nine days.  then you're sick for seven days, and you have to quarantine for up to a month in a hotel until symptoms abate on your dime.  You're not going anywhere.

 

Is it really worth it to travel to Thailand as a tourist right now?  I'm not talking about people trying to get back to their lives.

 

The term "you must have been dropped on your head" isn't an adequate term.  It's how many times a day did this happen?  

[Muzzique]

8 hours ago, Xonax said:

Do they want tourists to come and save Thailand or not?

 

How can you save something that was already dead. Thailand was already out of favor as a tourist destination . Only the playground of sex tourists and randy old men looking to hook up with desperate young farm girls while they await Gods call.

 

The beautiful tourism of the past has been pushed aside to make way for concrete hotel jungles and scams. There are far better alternatives now in other Asian countries, and it will be those that find favor for the regeneration of tourist travel.

 

Given there are so many Globally unemployed and taxes have to go up to pay back the extreme borrowing the governments are living on. I doubt if anyone will have 2 ha'pennies to rub together even if they are willing to spend 14 days locked away and get tracked.

[hobobo]

What happens if the farang does not have the funds to pay for the care, and there is no embassy or consular presence? Does he/she get quietly culled? Just curious... so that reciprocal measures can be recommended to the FCO.

[khunPer]

10 hours ago, Jack Mountain said:

Fair enough, I tell the Thai the same ...

Thais are citizens in Thailand, aliens are not, and therefore aliens recommended to have a Covid-19 insurance, whilst the governments takes care of their citizens...

[DavisH]

8 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

So, if they get it in Thai quarantine, infected by a Thai or bad hotel policy, they have to pay - talk about a pathetic scam.

 

Gets sillier by the day

If covid hits hard here, they will just hospitalise only the very sick. They simply will not have enough beds for thousands of people. I reckon they would just allow those with mild symptoms to isolate at home, like most other countries. Right now, everyoen testign positive is hospitalised, but that would have to change if thousands are getting infected daily. 

[Tchooptip]

9 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

Thai public hospitals can now legally charge foreign nationals higher rates for services under new regulations

OK I learned something ????

However, it is likely that it will remain below the prices of Bangkok hospitals which sometimes have no limits.

[RichardColeman]

18 minutes ago, DavisH said:

If covid hits hard here, they will just hospitalise only the very sick. They simply will not have enough beds for thousands of people

Pretty sure the poor thais would be hospitalised after the hi-so ones if it comes to it

[Scott]

Off-topic post reported and removed.

 

[EricTh]

I am just wondering why some people are going through those hoops just to come to Thailand for a holiday?

 

Thailand must be heaven on earth.

[Youlike]

11 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

He sounds like a business man instead of a doctor.

Same as the WHO, they are not protecting the world population at all, they only care for their job...

[Time Traveller]

Shouldn't the  "doctor" concern himself with the actual medical care, and the decision on payment responsibilities be left to the administrators? 

At least that's how things work in any place that's not a 3rd world and is the laughing stock of the world.

[Time Traveller]

16 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I am just wondering why some people are going through those hoops just to come to Thailand for a holiday?

 

Thailand must be heaven on earth.

Viruses are of no concern to sex tourists

 

[Albert Zweistein]

15 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

That's why you'd be crazy to get tested or even use the QR tracking if covid cases are increasing, you'll end up in hospital even if no symptoms plus a large bill

You'd be crazy anyway to go to LOL under these circumstances.

[Albert Zweistein]

14 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

This is the controversial bit and it's why only Thai insurance companies are allowed - it's not emergency treatment so no insurance company in the world would approve a payment for it.

 

You'r wrong, I have a regular MANDATORY health insurance in my home country that covers just everything that comes on my way while abroad or at home. Disseases, accident, the whole lot.

[ukrules]

1 minute ago, Albert Zweistein said:

You'r wrong, I have a regular MANDATORY health insurance in my home country that covers just everything that comes on my way while abroad or at home. Disseases, accident, the whole lot.

Read the small print, does it mention 'emergency treatment' anywhere?

 

With COVID they are sending people who are not ill in any way to hospital for many days. This is not emergency treatment.

 

I also have a very comprehensive top of the line insurance policy and they provide cover for everything but the word 'emergency' is used as in emergency treatment - the words 'precautionary hospital isolation at the discretion of the government' are not.

 

[ChakaKhan]

16 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Morgue?

 

Joke aside, aren't they supposed to have that 100k US$ covid insurance?

The House of Pain....he who breaks the law, goes back to the House of Pain......

[ChakaKhan]

16 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

And if it is proven that they have  infected a Thai national, do they have to pay for their treatment as well? 

*enter the farang grandpa aka teerak*  ????

[ChakaKhan]

3 hours ago, EricTh said:

Thailand must be heaven on earth.

...in the eyes of all brainwashed Thais...hence the concept of "face"..a useless concept, and detrimental as well

[Albert Zweistein]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

Read the small print, does it mention 'emergency treatment' anywhere?

 

With COVID they are sending people who are not ill in any way to hospital for many days. This is not emergency treatment.

 

I also have a very comprehensive top of the line insurance policy and they provide cover for everything but the word 'emergency' is used as in emergency treatment - the words 'precautionary hospital isolation at the discretion of the government' are not.

 

It has no small print and I am not an idiot. Besides I needed several times medical care abroad in the past and it was paid without questioning. They even issued a guaranty to BKK Hospital ( not the cheapest ) for payment before treatment had started or cost was known.