Infected foreigners have to pay for everything themselves, doctor assures Thais

[Wavel]

Why is it that people with a modicum of intelligence in Thailand can't help themselves from putting their foot in their mouths. One needs $100,000 covid protection insurance to enter the Kingdom, yet this buffoon expects foreigners to still pay for their own treatment. Please sir engage brain before talking.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

19 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

Cannot go to a country's hospital? Even if paying the full price for every treatments, no only private hospital?

Thai public hospitals can now legally charge foreign nationals higher rates for services under new regulations

[Virt]

What security do tourists have when it comes to the accuracy of the test itself?

 

If unlucky you could have 2 false positive tests in a row and then your stuck in a hospital with all the hassle that follows. 

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

And if they can't pay? Send them where?

Maybe there get the old machine guns back in service they used to shoot drug affenders with. ????

[Kwasaki]

12 minutes ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

Thai public hospitals can now legally charge foreign nationals higher rates for services under new regulations

Well I don't at my three monthly public hospital clinic appointment I just pay the same I always have. 

[RichardColeman]

So, if they get it in Thai quarantine, infected by a Thai or bad hotel policy, they have to pay - talk about a pathetic scam.

 

Gets sillier by the day

[kotsak]

1 minute ago, RichardColeman said:

So, if they get it in Thai quarantine, infected by a Thai or bad hotel policy, they have to pay - talk about a pathetic scam.

 

Gets sillier by the day

 

It gets sillier by the day because the spinmasters are running out of fodder????

[Mr Meeseeks]

How long until all foreigners in-country have to go and get tested?

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said that they would have to pay for everything themselves. They won't be a burden on the Thai health system, he assured Thais.

"Dr Opas went on to say that the government was in the process of establishing the International Thai Citizen Covid Treatment Refund scheme, where any treatment given to Thais abroad for Covid without being charged would be paid for by the Thai people.  He was quoted as saying "if we don't pay for Thai treatment overseas while we demand foreigners pay for their treatment in Thailand, we would look like racist, money-grubbing, hypocritical *****!  None of us want that.""

[Grumpy John]

2 hours ago, bobbin said:

This.

 

I'm surprised we got to the 2nd page before this was mentioned. It's not only about the few incoming tourists who will all have the $100,000 Covid insurance. What about all of us who have been here for longer than than Covid emerged? After the Thais have become so desperate for tourist income that they loosen restrictions sufficiently to have 1,000's of foreign tourists wandering about.. That's when it gets dicey.

 

I bought the internal Thai insurance coverage of Baht 100,000 000 (medical costs), 1,000,000 (Death) at a cost of less than 1,000/year but that will go very quickly in isolation at a private hospital.

Wow, that is a cheap premium.  Could you share with us the name of this wonderful insurance company.  I for one wish to sign up!

[richard_smith237]

41 minutes ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

Thai public hospitals can now legally charge foreign nationals higher rates for services under new regulations

 

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

How long until all foreigners in-country have to go and get tested?

 

 

This thread is a dog whistle to the paranoid delusionists - those who love to write ‘they don’t want us here’ etc... 

 

Incoming foreigners all need to have Insurance. 

Existing foreigners in Thailand should have already had insurance (I know difficult for some).

Those foreigners registered here (tabien baan) can also register at a public hospital for treatment.

 

No one is being treated unfairly - but there are a few idiotic public figures making outrageous ‘Anutinesque’ announcements which are highly clumsy and come across xenophobic - a prefect call to arms for many ThaiVisa posters to go hyperbolic !

 

 

[mvdf]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

And if they can't pay? Send them where?

 

Send them to an internet cafe to create a GoFundMe account.

[stretch5163]

4 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Morgue?

 

Joke aside, aren't they supposed to have that 100k US$ covid insurance?

You honestly think that the majority of foreigners in Thaliand now that have been there since March and the lockdown started will have covid insurance ....seriously ?

 

Also a lot of the expats on visa extensions wont have covid insurance as they wont bother.

 

Unless the Thais start clamping donw and insisting on proof of insurance when they are giving extension stamps.

[Susco]

1 minute ago, stretch5163 said:

You honestly think that the majority of foreigners in Thaliand now that have been there since March and the lockdown started will have covid insurance ....seriously ?

 

Also a lot of the expats on visa extensions wont have covid insurance as they wont bother.

 

Unless the Thais start clamping donw and insisting on proof of insurance when they are giving extension stamps.

 

Maybe try to read the OP again

 

A doctor at the infectious disease department said that any foreigner found to be infected with Covid-19 while in alternative state quarantine would be taken to a partner hospital in the private sector. 

 

If you are in state quarantine means you just entered the country, and you can't enter without that insurance

[Megasin1]

You can't assume that because you are insured that they will pay up, take the father and son of the "French" woman for example, forced into quarantine in a hospital (probably for 10 days) but having tested negative. An insurance policy that covers you being infected will NOT pay up for you being incarcerated when NOT infected. The good doctor could have just said all foreigners will pay, pay, pay he didn't have to stipulate what it was for, bless him...

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, stretch5163 said:

You honestly think that the majority of foreigners in Thaliand now that have been there since March and the lockdown started will have covid insurance ....seriously ?

 

Also a lot of the expats on visa extensions wont have covid insurance as they wont bother.

 

Unless the Thais start clamping donw and insisting on proof of insurance when they are giving extension stamps.

 

The topic of medical insurance has come up a few times with my friends who live here.

 

Most do have medical insurance (age range 30-50 yrs old) - I don’t know many people older than that. 

 

With the exception of a couple of my early years when I was young and stupid (22-24 yrs old), I have always had medical insurance in Thailand.

 

 

Obviously it's a very difficult subject as some simply cannot get insurance because of there age. 

Its not a black and white subject - but I certainly understand the government wanting to ensure foreigners have insurance cover - its been a hot topic for a long time. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Megasin1]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

I dont feel its offensive, just making sure that Thais dont see the foreigners as a burden. If i read the UK thread how many from the UK are angry if someone gets helped in their system and does not pay. Why would it be different for Thais better to make it clear that they would not burden the Thai healthcare. Stops the spread of rumors. 

Many, many foreigners get free treatment in UK hospitals and the reasons are twofold, for one the NHS won't turn people away based on nationality as it is against their principles and two, the NHS is an admin nightmare whereby they are just so incompetent that they can't charge back to countries with which we have reciprocal agreements, never mind to those that we don't. However I don't see massive anger, riots in the streets or protests about this and perhaps people are a little more generous minded than you think.

[cyril sneer]

you'll start to see foreigners deliberately infected now

[Grumpy John]

5 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

you'll start to see foreigners deliberately infected now

Ok Cyril, you put it out there...so how about you explain how that is going to work?  

[johng]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Well I don't at my three monthly public hospital clinic appointment I just pay the same I always have. 

 

1 hour ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

Thai public hospitals can now legally charge foreign nationals higher rates for services under new regulations

 

There was a document posted on this form some time ago  listing the different prices   see attached PDF

hospital dual price.pdf

 

[TheFishman1]

They want their cake and eat it to TiT

[teacherclaire]

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said that they would have to pay for everything themselves. They won't be a burden on the Thai health system, he assured Thais

 

Opa needs to be replaced with Oma. 

[teacherclaire]

23 minutes ago, johng said:

 

 

There was a document posted on this form some time ago  listing the different prices   see attached PDF

hospital dual price.pdf 3.18 MB · 0 downloads

 

500 baht for a foreigner to visit a national park, 20 baht for a whole truckload of Thais. 

I'm afraid the the new normal will be worse than the old normal. 

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

This thread is a dog whistle to the paranoid delusionists - those who love to write ‘they don’t want us here’ etc... 

 

Incoming foreigners all need to have Insurance. 

Existing foreigners in Thailand should have already had insurance (I know difficult for some).

Those foreigners registered here (tabien baan) can also register at a public hospital for treatment.

 

No one is being treated unfairly - but there are a few idiotic public figures making outrageous ‘Anutinesque’ announcements which are highly clumsy and come across xenophobic - a prefect call to arms for many ThaiVisa posters to go hyperbolic !

 

 

Yeah.........any excuse.

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Yeah.........any excuse.

Any excuse for what?  Discussing an OP where more Xenophobia is pushed out by another Thai doctor, while at the same time telling those xenophobic Thais that the virus laden foreigners will pay and the Thai people won't have to foot the bill.  Test positive and be only Asymptomatic and still placed into a hospital is more than a money maker for the Thai's.  Waiting now for them to start testing all Farangs and placing them into facilities after they find they are Asymptomatic to boost the economy. 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said that they would have to pay for everything themselves. They won't be a burden on the Thai health system, he assured Thais.

And if they contracted Covid while banged up in a Thai quarantine facility what then?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

Cannot see a problem for a foreigner, just claim off their insurance?

Until you read the ultra small print and find out the insurance has a cap, and you have to make up the huge balance.

[krobert6]

I wonder if that is the same for Thais overseas ????

 

[puipuitom]

You understand now, why I left Thailand in 2006 ?

As farang you are good for only one thing: PAY !

[Susco]

4 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

You understand now, why I left Thailand in 2006 ?

As farang you are good for only one thing: PAY !

 

I take it that wherever you are residing now, everything is free, and no taxes to pay either