Trump does not plan to concede any time soon, aides and allies indicate

[Lacessit]

52 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Oh yes, I'd heard about that. A Trump controlled news channel. I'd rather assured that it was a joke!

 

If it ever happens, it will be.

 

Mind you you need quite a lot of cash to set up any media operation. Access to cash ( borrowing) could just be a problem "going forward'" as they say!

Trump will have enough problems with his existing creditors, no-one is going to lend him money to start up a news venture for right-wing fruitloops. There's already Breitbart News.

Murdoch, as he always has done, is trimming his sails for the new government, and his actions indicate he regards Trump as no threat.

[placeholder]

Just now, Lacessit said:

Trump will have enough problems with his existing creditors, no-one is going to lend him money to start up a news venture for right-wing fruitloops. There's already Breitbart News.

Murdoch, as he always has done, is trimming his sails for the new government, and his actions indicate he regards Trump as no threat.

I don't think Trump is going to have money problems. Qatar bailed out Jared's family to the tune of over a billion dollars. To Putin and MBS the cash Trump needs to clear his debts is chump change.

[BobBKK]

I expected Biden to win. The odds were stacked against Trump (social media, MSM etc.) and his loud mouth and uncouth behaviour really hurt him. I dislike the liberal pc set more than i dislike Trump but, at the end of the day, he lost despite gaining 8m more votes than 2016 and he needs to live with it. The pendulum will swing back soon enough as there are TWO USA's. I'd like to think compromise might be found but with Antifa and the rest I doubt it very much. Feel sorry for ICE and the Police who now have an even more thankless job and will be spat on with impunity.

[n00dle]

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

The Trump campaing has set up a toll-free phone line for citizens to report potential ballot fraud. It's going about as well as you might expect:

The Trump Campaign’s Voter Fraud Hotline Keeps Getting Pranked

https://slate.com/culture/2020/11/trump-campaign-fraud-hotline-pranked-hamburglar-gravity-falls-tiktok.html

Epic

[Berkshire]

31 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't think Trump is going to have money problems. Qatar bailed out Jared's family to the tune of over a billion dollars. To Putin and MBS the cash Trump needs to clear his debts is chump change.

Trump may have had access to foreign money when he was President.  But as an ex-President, I doubt these Dictators would be so eager to cough up the cash.  It's all about "what's in it for me?" 

[placeholder]

30 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I expected Biden to win. The odds were stacked against Trump (social media, MSM etc.) and his loud mouth and uncouth behaviour really hurt him. I dislike the liberal pc set more than i dislike Trump but, at the end of the day, he lost despite gaining 8m more votes than 2016 and he needs to live with it. The pendulum will swing back soon enough as there are TWO USA's. I'd like to think compromise might be found but with Antifa and the rest I doubt it very much. Feel sorry for ICE and the Police who now have an even more thankless job and will be spat on with impunity.

As soon as someone mentions Antifa as a significant problem, you know where they're coming from.

[J Town]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

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The pendulum will swing back soon enough as there are TWO USA's. I'd like to think compromise might be found but with Antifa and the rest I doubt it very much. Feel sorry for ICE and the Police who now have an even more thankless job and will be spat on with impunity.

Two points:

 

1. 45 did everything within his power to keep that division full and angry with the vitriol spewing from his gob every damned day. Before Biden has even been given the keys to the car, he's putting out messages of unity.

 

2. The term "defunding the police" was one of the biggest faux pas ever. The concept is to reassign funding (hometown police don't REALLY need tanks!) to people trained to handle those issues police SHOULDN'T have to handle. As for ICE, they should be disbanded. The US needs those workers so admit it then create an honest immigration policy put in place. I sincerely believe the only reason there is no policy is to keep this hot button issue alive to keep people like us arguing (again, those who really run the world love division).

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

2. The term "defunding the police" was one of the biggest faux pas ever. The concept is to reassign funding (hometown police don't REALLY need tanks!) to people trained to handle those issues police SHOULDN'T have to handle. As for ICE, they should be disbanded. The US needs those workers so admit it then create an honest immigration policy put in place. I sincerely believe the only reason there is no policy is to keep this hot button issue alive to keep people like us arguing (again, those who really run the world love division).

I would agree that "defund the police" is the worst political slogan ever...probably even worse than "democratic socialist."  Doesn't matter what it actually means because the other side will be all over it.  Some senators have come out and said this idea/concept probably cost the dems several congressional seats.  In fact, I think Biden would have won by an even bigger margin if this nonsense wasn't floating around as even a remote agenda idea. 

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I would agree that "defund the police" is the worst political slogan ever...probably even worse than "democratic socialist."  Doesn't matter what it actually means because the other side will be all over it.  Some senators have come out and said this idea/concept probably cost the dems several congressional seats.  In fact, I think Biden would have won by an even bigger margin if this nonsense wasn't floating around as even a remote agenda idea. 

True and I wish they had avoided those terms, but it wouldn't have mattered.  They even called Biden a "socialist."  Those are just dog whistles for the followers.  

 

I think the Dems would have done better if they knew, for instance, that Biden supports a $15/hour national minimum wage, like the one passed by voters in FL who then voted for Trump.  The "democratic socialist" name doesn't get any votes for the Dems, but the policies should.

[RJRS1301]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

but there is a chance.

I reckon if there was, they would have filed by now. Even the lawyer who got the decison for Bush, said it was thowing as much <deleted> at a wall, and seeing how much sticks. He said he was an expert at it. However said, it currently lacks evidence

[Jeffr2]

42 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I would agree that "defund the police" is the worst political slogan ever...probably even worse than "democratic socialist."  Doesn't matter what it actually means because the other side will be all over it.  Some senators have come out and said this idea/concept probably cost the dems several congressional seats.  In fact, I think Biden would have won by an even bigger margin if this nonsense wasn't floating around as even a remote agenda idea. 

Just spoke with a Trump supporter in the US.  I was asking about the virus, and they said they don't get it.  Everybody wears masks, everybody.  I showed pics from the Trump rallies, Sturgis MC rally, etc.  Crickets.

 

But they did complain about defunding the police and the riots.  The alt right crowd are really playing this up.

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Trump may have had access to foreign money when he was President.  But as an ex-President, I doubt these Dictators would be so eager to cough up the cash.  It's all about "what's in it for me?" 

First of all, they probably don't want to be seen as abandoning an ally.

Second, they need to keep him complicit.

[earlinclaifornia]

14 hours ago, n00dle said:

Massive?

 

 

trump's words

[Rimmer]

Some inflammatory posts and replies have been removed 

[onthedarkside]

A series of off-topic posts re Antifa have been reported and removed.

 

The topic of the thread is: Trump does not plan to concede any time soon, aides and allies indicate

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

I don't think Trump is going to have money problems. Qatar bailed out Jared's family to the tune of over a billion dollars. To Putin and MBS the cash Trump needs to clear his debts is chump change.

You may be right. However, why would Putin and MBS back a loser, when it's as predictable as night and day Trump's finances are going to come under heavy scrutiny now he doesn't have the Presidency and Barr running interference? The last thing they would want is for money to be traced back to them, it would give Biden and Harris all the ammunition they need to start imposing sanctions.

[Susco]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

I dislike the liberal pc set more than i dislike Trump

 

I never noticed from your previous posts that you disliked Trump even for a second.

 

Sounds more like another Trump fanboy trying to save face.

[johnmcc6]

On 11/10/2020 at 6:30 AM, J Town said:

Court cases at this moment are zero for seven. The election decision will never reach the Supreme Court because of that one pesky requirement - evidence, of which there is none.

coming soon to a web site near you  lol

[Salerno]

Is he finally getting close to conceding?

 

 

In his TV address about half an hour ago he also said "This administration will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the ... uhh ... whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, I guess time will tell, but I can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown."

Edited November 13, 2020 by Salerno

[RJRS1301]

41 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Is he finally getting close to conceding?

 

 

In his TV address about half an hour ago he also said "This administration will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the ... uhh ... whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, I guess time will tell, but I can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown."

The petulant man cannot find his big boy pants yet. Oversized but not big boy 

[EVENKEEL]

11 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

The petulant man cannot find his big boy pants yet. Oversized but not big boy 

Interesting......

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democratic-senators-warned-of-potential-vote-switching-by-dominion-voting-machines-prior-to-2020-election

[placeholder]

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Interesting......

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democratic-senators-warned-of-potential-vote-switching-by-dominion-voting-machines-prior-to-2020-election

Yes there definitely is controversy surrounding those machines and they are prone to glitches that lead to delays.. But they do leave a paper trail and in the cases where glitches occurred they were detected almost immediately by elections officials. That said, it was Republicans in Georgia headed by Governor Kemp, the guy who was formerlyl in charge of elections, who decided to purchase this expensive system over a much cheaper and simpler one supported by Democrats. Republicans supported a system that would probably lead to delays which disproportionately affect citizens likely to vote Democratic.

Edited November 13, 2020 by placeholder

[placeholder]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Yes there definitely is controversy surrounding those machines and they are prone to glitches that lead to delays.. But they do leave a paper trail and in the cases where glitches occurred they were detected almost immediately by elections officials. That said, it was Republicans in Georgia headed by Governor Kemp, the guy who was formerlyl in charge of elections, who decided to purchase this expensive system over a much cheaper and simpler one supported by Democrats. Republicans supported a system that would probably lead to delays which disproportionately affect citizens likely to vote Democratic.

This is just another case where Republicans mishandle election preparations and then cry foul. The most obvious example is Pennsylvania where Democrats pushed hard for the state to change election laws to count mail-in ballots in advance. Republican legislators successfully resisted the attempt. I guess they were reluctant to have Pennsylvania imitate the practices of Socialistic states like Iowa.

[RJRS1301]

18 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Interesting......

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democratic-senators-warned-of-potential-vote-switching-by-dominion-voting-machines-prior-to-2020-election

Not terribly factual in the reality of the current situation or make difference to outcome considering the paper trail. However retain hope there 

[candide]

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Yes there definitely is controversy surrounding those machines and they are prone to glitches that lead to delays.. But they do leave a paper trail and in the cases where glitches occurred they were detected almost immediately by elections officials. That said, it was Republicans in Georgia headed by Governor Kemp, the guy who was formerlyl in charge of elections, who decided to purchase this expensive system over a much cheaper and simpler one supported by Democrats. Republicans supported a system that would probably lead to delays which disproportionately affect citizens likely to vote Democratic.

Actually, it's been used in 28 states, including states Trump won.

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Not terribly factual in the reality of the current situation or make difference to outcome considering the paper trail. However retain hope there 

It's possible for folks to make a comment which isn't meant to further any cause.

 

I just find it amazing that a simple machine like a voting machine can't be made without glitches. It would seem like for federal elections one single kind of machine for all the states should be used. And if any system isn't fool proof, maybe we need to go back to paper ballots.

 

Continue banging the drums.....

[mtls2005]

A massive crushing defeat for trump.

 

I actually feel sorry for him.

 

Other than hundreds of lawsuits and many bankruptcies, I'm not sure he's ever lost anything before. Losing the top job must be soul-crushing for him.

 

The same Electoral total, 306, which trump and his emablers told us was yuge.

 

Massive popular vote total and massive more votes.

 

Georgia, Arizona, etc, etc etc.

 

Now trump can get back to presidenting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 2020 by mtls2005

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's possible for folks to make a comment which isn't meant to further any cause.

 

I just find it amazing that a simple machine like a voting machine can't be made without glitches. It would seem like for federal elections one single kind of machine for all the states should be used. And if any system isn't fool proof, maybe we need to go back to paper ballots.

 

Continue banging the drums.....

There is a lot to be said for a plywood booth, a ballot paper and an HB pencil on a bit of string!

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

A massive crushing defeat for trump.

 

I actually feel sorry for him.

 

Other than hundreds of lawsuits and many bankruptcies, I'm not sure he's ever lost anything before. Losing the top job must be soul-crushing for him.

 

The same Electoral total, 306, which trump and his emablers told us was yuge.

 

Massive popular vote total and massive more votes.

 

Georgia, Arizona, etc, etc etc.

 

Now trump can get back to presidenting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He has lost funds and money from investors many times and has lost much over his lifespan . Being a narcissist he believes his own lies and also believes he is much loved. 
 He has also lost touch with reality

Feel sorry for him, nah once again he gambled and lost.  Sympathy is the dictionary between sh *t and syphillis 

Edited November 14, 2020 by RJRS1301

[Eric Loh]

Borrowing Trump’s 2016 election outcome proclamation, Republicans got their a*** kicked this election. Biden projected electoral college 306 to 223 and popular votes edging towards 6 million, Trump got a pretty good shellacking.