Biden camp considers legal action over agency's delay in recognizing transition

[joecoolfrog]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Continue to believe that the other side does not lie and never has and your in for a real treat during this next 4 years as the Democrats continue with their lies and so does the GOP. It cuts both ways so you might want to sit back and watch as more political theater unfolds on both sides.

It's a question of degree though isn't it ? I dont think you can sensibly argue that Trump has not hugely upped the anti in respect of bare faced lying and misinformation.

The supporters who believe his nonsense are fools , there may be a similar amount of Democratic morons also but that is not proven just yet.

[joecoolfrog]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is an equal playing field.  A game played by all, but currently played in the minds of many.  It is fascinating to see such hatred for a man instead of all those equally deplorable.

I honestly dont view it as fascinating in the least , cannot comprehend why you would.

Trump is a deeply unpleasant person so obviously he stirs negative emotions.

Obama by contrast had a winning personality yet still attracted hatred , that's far more fascinating.

[Sujo]

This is hilarious. Repubs on the dems not conceding in 2018.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/daily-show-compiled-reel-trump-062156914.html

[Phoenix Rising]

Trump's former chief of staff on election fraud claims: 'Put up or shut up on the evidence'

 

"“Allegations are not enough, and everybody knows this,” said Mick Mulvaney, former acting White House chief of staff and director of the Office of Management and Budget, in an interview with Yahoo Finance Live. Lawyers “have to put up or shut up on the evidence for the lawsuits. You can’t go out on TV and say, ‘they’re stealing the election,’ and not back that up with facts.”"

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

This is hilarious. Repubs on the dems not conceding in 2018.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/daily-show-compiled-reel-trump-062156914.html

Epic!????

 

From your link:

"In the last election, the 2018 midterms, McEnany — then spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee — went on Fox News to criticize Democrats for refusing to concede. "Democrats are being sore losers, and they refuse to acknowledge they lost the election, so what do they do?" she asked. "They cry malfeasance, wrongdoing, criminality, fraud.""

[Phoenix Rising]

Postal worker recanted allegations of ballot tampering, officials say

 

"A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.

....on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED."

 

 

[Thingamabob]

19 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Too late for Trump, he is already regarded as a lying cheating rogue both nationally and internationally, he would lie to you if you asked him the time of day.

Trump is popular and respected outside coastal USA and Western Europe. Time to take the blinkers off, and try to recognize that there's a big wide world outside your myopic bubble.

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Trump is popular and respected outside coastal USA and Western Europe. Time to take the blinkers off, and try to recognize that there's a big wide world outside your myopic bubble.

And there i was thinking america first, 

of course you will have a link to back up your claim.

[JusticeGB]

10 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Really ?

I think you will find that in the last election the call was made before all votes were counted, and for the vast majority of elections preceding that.

I know , you know and every sane person in the universe knows that this is just Trump being a baby.

At the end of the day it just confirms what many of us have known all along , Trump only cares about himself and to help with the consequences, the GOP will not come out of this very well.

 

I agree with you that if it's mathematically impossible for a losing candidate to overtake a winning candidate it would be possible for the Electoral College to call the winner. However it's the news channels who are calling the winner in many states where votes are not fully counted. Also the Trump administration has issued court cases in certain states claiming fraud in the counting of votes. Until those cases are disposed of those states are unable to determine the votes for either candidate. 

[Jeffr2]

Just now, JusticeGB said:

I agree with you that if it's mathematically impossible for a losing candidate to overtake a winning candidate it would be possible for the Electoral College to call the winner. However it's the news channels who are calling the winner in many states where votes are not fully counted. Also the Trump administration has issued court cases in certain states claiming fraud in the counting of votes. Until those cases are disposed of those states are unable to determine the votes for either candidate. 

Media outlets have called the states where it's mathematically impossible for the losing candidate to take over.  Impossible.

 

The Trump administration has proven itself corrupt for the past 4 years.  They're batting 0 for 7 in their court battles.  The cases have been disposed of. 

 

Time for Trump to man up and for once in his life, do something  good for others.  Don't be so selfish. 

 

What a horrible leader.  It's over.  The fat lady has sung.

[JusticeGB]

14 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

But it was OK for Trump to announce he won the election before counting started 

Trump just likes the sound of his own voice how could he call the election before voting had started. Your reply is obviously non sensible. 

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, JusticeGB said:

Trump just likes the sound of his own voice how could he call the election before voting had started. Your reply is obviously non sensible. 

You need a better source for your news.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-falsely-claims-victory-in-pennsylvania-2020-11

 

Trump campaign falsely claims victory in Pennsylvania with hundreds of thousands of ballots not yet counted

[Jeffr2]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud

The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.

[joecoolfrog]

27 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

I agree with you that if it's mathematically impossible for a losing candidate to overtake a winning candidate it would be possible for the Electoral College to call the winner. However it's the news channels who are calling the winner in many states where votes are not fully counted. Also the Trump administration has issued court cases in certain states claiming fraud in the counting of votes. Until those cases are disposed of those states are unable to determine the votes for either candidate. 

The media always calls the results , nothing new , and it's the result of very careful deliberation by thousands of analysts.

The ONLY difference this time is a bitter and ego driven president who refuses to admit that he has been comprehensively beaten.

He is a loser , he just can't accept the fact.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, joecoolfrog said:

None of which stops analysts calling the election , which they always have , and the loser gracefully conceding defeat.

Key word...Gracefully.   A trait Trump and his followers don't seem to have.

[hotandsticky]

3 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

As President Biden said , those in denial are simply embarrassing themselves.

 

 

"President elect"  (maybe)  ??

Edited November 11, 2020 by hotandsticky

[Jai Dee]

Several argumentative troll posts as well as replies have been removed.

[Jingthing]

Just now, hotandsticky said:

 

 

"President elect"  ??

Yes you're exactly correct. 

President Elect Joe Biden.

[CorpusChristie]

Dems spent four years investigating Trump for collusion with Russia , wonder why they dont want to wait a few weeks for a Biden vote fraud investigation ?

[joecoolfrog]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dems spent four years investigating Trump for collusion with Russia , wonder why they dont want to wait a few weeks for a Biden vote fraud investigation ?

I'm happy to wait , Trump and his clan are merely hurting themselves.

[Eibot]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dems spent four years investigating Trump for collusion with Russia , wonder why they dont want to wait a few weeks for a Biden vote fraud investigation ?

Because similar to the Trump investigations, there is no reason to "wait" as long as it's not proven..

[Jai Dee]

More argumentative troll posts and replies as well as comments on moderation have been removed.

 

Continued comments of this nature will result in posting suspensions from the Forum.

[Phoenix Rising]

Here is President-Elect Biden answering a journalist's question regarding one part of the transition process and while doing so instigates the most epic take-down of a trump administration member ever!

Watch the short video in the bottom link and the take-down comes at the end of the short video.

 

Biden laughs at mention of secretary of state Mike Pompeo

Edited November 11, 2020 by onthedarkside
social media link removed

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dems spent four years investigating Trump for collusion with Russia , wonder why they dont want to wait a few weeks for a Biden vote fraud investigation ?

Because the Russian investigation was based on solid evidence, and it wasn't just about collusion. 

 

This vote fraud investigation is based on nothing but unsubstantiated lies from the president.  Time to move on.  The US needs to move forward.

[candide]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dems spent four years investigating Trump for collusion with Russia , wonder why they dont want to wait a few weeks for a Biden vote fraud investigation ?

Which Dems? I don't remember Mueller, Rosenstein or Barr being Dems.

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Because the Russian investigation was based on solid evidence, and it wasn't just about collusion. 

 

This vote fraud investigation is based on nothing but unsubstantiated lies from the president.  Time to move on.  The US needs to move forward.

 

   We are currently waiting for any evidence of the allegations  , investigations are underway and the US cannot move forward until these allegations are either proven or shown to be false 

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   We are currently waiting for any evidence of the allegations  , investigations are underway and the US cannot move forward until these allegations are either proven or shown to be false 

There is NO proof of any voter fraud.  NONE.  ZIP.  NADA.  At least none significant to allow a Trump win.

 

Time to move on.  Thousands are dying while GOP politicians are messing around with this.  They should all be fired.

[Berkshire]

Just read an article which made me feel a bit sorry for those hapless Trump supporters.  Not only did they just lose an election, but now they have to endure an endless torrent of threatening e-mails/text messages demanding money.

 

[To remedy the prolonged money issues impacting the team's ability to fight past Election Day, the campaign launched an aggressive fundraising operation that includes relentlessly texting and emailing to solicit donations from supporters.]

 

[The campaign has fired off over 150 emails to supporters since Election Day, sometimes maxing out at over 20 emails in a single day, at times seemingly threatening supporters for donations.]

 

["This is your FINAL NOTICE," one email warned. "So far, you've ignored all our emails asking you to join us in DEFENDING THE ELECTION. You've ignored Team Trump, Eric, Lara, Don, the Vice President AND you've even ignored the President of the United States."]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-won-t-back-down-from-legal-war-as-money-woes-and-infighting-rage-sources/ar-BB1aTlNU

[onthedarkside]

A post relying on a link to the Washington Times, which is not a credible news source and thus not allowed on the forum, has been removed along with multiple ensuing replies.

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/

 

Also, a trolling member who spammed this particular thread with numerous posts also has been removed, along with the various replies to those spamming posts.

[Phoenix Rising]

18 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   We are currently waiting for any evidence of the allegations  , investigations are underway and the US cannot move forward until these allegations are either proven or shown to be false 

We can certainly move on based on the innocent til proven guilty principle