Thailand Road Carnage: SEVENTY EIGHT dead at the scene on Monday

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Nah! Covid-19 is the REAL problem... phew!!!

[daiwill60]

On your point 1, 

One would have thought that all the publicity and TV reporting every day on various media channels would be enough of an educational and safety marketing strategy in itself, but Hey I guess this is Thailand after all!

Edited November 11, 2020 by daiwill60

[daiwill60]

 

4 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Top causes of collisions and injury in Thailand:

1. Lack of driver education, training, and road safety marketing, leading to ignorance of consequences and selfish attitudes of drivers.

2. Poor enforcement, leading to widespread ignoring of traffic laws and principles eg speeding, seat belts, helmets, ghost riding, drivers hours, maintenance.

3. Preponderance of motorcycle use, with no protective gear, especially helmets.

4. Widespread drink driving, with little consequence of punishment like disqualification, heavy fines, jail time or higher insurance premiums.

5. Poor road design, with little vehicle separation eg motorcycles and trucks competing for space, dangerous u-turns from slow traffic into fast traffic, poor junction design with little signage or traffic islands to separate traffic, lack of roundabouts (traffic circles), poor marking of roadworks or damaged road surfaces, poor standard of road construction.

 

Until all the above are addressed, nothing will change for the better. As most victims (motorcyclists, pickup bed passengers and pedestrians) are poor, no one in authority cares about them. 

On your point 1, 

One would have thought that all the publicity and TV reporting every day on various media channels would be enough of an educational and safety marketing strategy in itself, but Hey I guess this is Thailand after all!

Edited November 11, 2020 by daiwill60
correction

[Burma Bill]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The total for 2020 now stands at 12,235 dead at the scene.

Why only quote "dead at the scene" and not include those who unfortunately die in hospital as the result of a road accident???? Should copy TAT's example and boost figures!!

[bkk6060]

I bet one of the biggest causes is people on their phones creating inattention.

If I were a cop or traffic investigator here, I would be checking this.

But of course if the person is dead, difficult to password to their phone activity.

[ronaldo0]

No need to worry about deaths from COVID as Thais seem perfectly capable of smashing the COVID numbers out of the park by just getting in a vehicle ! ????

[Enoon]

6 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Top causes of collisions and injury in Thailand:

1. Lack of driver education, training, and road safety marketing, leading to ignorance of consequences and selfish attitudes of drivers.

2. Poor enforcement, leading to widespread ignoring of traffic laws and principles eg speeding, seat belts, helmets, ghost riding, drivers hours, maintenance.

3. Preponderance of motorcycle use, with no protective gear, especially helmets.

4. Widespread drink driving, with little consequence of punishment like disqualification, heavy fines, jail time or higher insurance premiums.

5. Poor road design, with little vehicle separation eg motorcycles and trucks competing for space, dangerous u-turns from slow traffic into fast traffic, poor junction design with little signage or traffic islands to separate traffic, lack of roundabouts (traffic circles), poor marking of roadworks or damaged road surfaces, poor standard of road construction.

 

Until all the above are addressed, nothing will change for the better. As most victims (motorcyclists, pickup bed passengers and pedestrians) are poor, no one in authority cares about them. 

 

Nonsense, the causes are insufficient numbers of amulets, prayers, blessings and, most importantly, a highly unequal distribution of "luck".

 

You would see the crowds of demonstrators swollen into millions if "More Luck For Ordinary People" was added to the list of demands.

 

"They is what they is"

 

 

Edited November 11, 2020 by Enoon

[Gandtee]

Thailand. The road accident hub.????

[Cali farong]

Maybe they could appeal to tourists wanting to see and video road carnage.

makes for good you tube

[Artisi]

4 hours ago, teacherclaire said:

The truck drove off, she noted, without offering her any form of assistance.  

 

Which is quite understandable. ....

Normal.... 

[Happyman567]

Geez I was nearly No79 On Monday A car was coming down the wrong side of the road when i was on my push bike and nearly ran me over I stopped and just glared at him. But dont worry the government is not happy with 78 dead because on the 19 and 20th Nov Thailand has some more holidays Yippee

[Gudge]

15 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Top causes of collisions and injury in Thailand:

1. Lack of driver education, training, and road safety marketing, leading to ignorance of consequences and selfish attitudes of drivers.

2. Poor enforcement, leading to widespread ignoring of traffic laws and principles eg speeding, seat belts, helmets, ghost riding, drivers hours, maintenance.

3. Preponderance of motorcycle use, with no protective gear, especially helmets.

4. Widespread drink driving, with little consequence of punishment like disqualification, heavy fines, jail time or higher insurance premiums.

5. Poor road design, with little vehicle separation eg motorcycles and trucks competing for space, dangerous u-turns from slow traffic into fast traffic, poor junction design with little signage or traffic islands to separate traffic, lack of roundabouts (traffic circles), poor marking of roadworks or damaged road surfaces, poor standard of road construction.

 

Until all the above are addressed, nothing will change for the better. As most victims (motorcyclists, pickup bed passengers and pedestrians) are poor, no one in authority cares about them. 

You forgot to mention probably about half of the Thais don't even have a drivers license or any drivers training especialy in the countryside and the police if they pull them over 200 baht and away they drive.  My ex didn't have a license and if she saw a roadblock turned around and if pulled over 200 baht and away she goes. Typical Thai responce if I told her she had to get license, Not need, too much trouble to get.

 

 

 

 

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[quake]

And about 14 of them will be children.

truly disgraceful Thailand.

[bodga]

17 hours ago, Bobobirdiebuddy said:

This will never change.  Any drive down any road will show the idiocy of many Thai drivers and it crosses all socio-economic classes.  The hi-so BMW jerks, the pick up truck jerks, the heavy truck jerks.  So many with no thought as to what they are doing.

Actually Id  disagree  on that, many of them know EXACTLY what they are doing and when caught  out will come out with the most bizarre reason.

[Bangyai]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

She thanked the fact that she was wearing a seatbelt

 

I don't believe it . Must be a first for Thailand.

 

Normally it is an amulet that is credited with a miraculous survival. 

[Lacessit]

17 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Top causes of collisions and injury in Thailand:

1. Lack of driver education, training, and road safety marketing, leading to ignorance of consequences and selfish attitudes of drivers.

2. Poor enforcement, leading to widespread ignoring of traffic laws and principles eg speeding, seat belts, helmets, ghost riding, drivers hours, maintenance.

3. Preponderance of motorcycle use, with no protective gear, especially helmets.

4. Widespread drink driving, with little consequence of punishment like disqualification, heavy fines, jail time or higher insurance premiums.

5. Poor road design, with little vehicle separation eg motorcycles and trucks competing for space, dangerous u-turns from slow traffic into fast traffic, poor junction design with little signage or traffic islands to separate traffic, lack of roundabouts (traffic circles), poor marking of roadworks or damaged road surfaces, poor standard of road construction.

 

Until all the above are addressed, nothing will change for the better. As most victims (motorcyclists, pickup bed passengers and pedestrians) are poor, no one in authority cares about them. 

I'd agree with all of those, and add in awareness. Many Thais are oblivious to their surroundings, they live in a bubble.

Example: My training as a pedestrian is to walk towards oncoming traffic, so I can take evasive action if necessary. How many Thais does one see doing the opposite? It's like they are devolving responsibility for their own well-being onto other people, or to Buddha.

How many Thais drive without a single glance into their rear vision mirrors?

[JohnAtSea]

Amazing Thainess

 

[RocketDog]

18 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Top causes of collisions and injury in Thailand:

1. Lack of driver education, training, and road safety marketing, leading to ignorance of consequences and selfish attitudes of drivers.

2. Poor enforcement, leading to widespread ignoring of traffic laws and principles eg speeding, seat belts, helmets, ghost riding, drivers hours, maintenance.

3. Preponderance of motorcycle use, with no protective gear, especially helmets.

4. Widespread drink driving, with little consequence of punishment like disqualification, heavy fines, jail time or higher insurance premiums.

5. Poor road design, with little vehicle separation eg motorcycles and trucks competing for space, dangerous u-turns from slow traffic into fast traffic, poor junction design with little signage or traffic islands to separate traffic, lack of roundabouts (traffic circles), poor marking of roadworks or damaged road surfaces, poor standard of road construction.

 

Until all the above are addressed, nothing will change for the better. As most victims (motorcyclists, pickup bed passengers and pedestrians) are poor, no one in authority cares about them. 

You completely missed The Principal Cause:

The drivers and passengers simply don't care about being killers or victims. 

Until that problem is recognized the other cause are superfluous. 

[ChipButty]

Thailand could become the worlds No1 for organ donors

[quake]

45 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Thailand could become the worlds No1 for organ donors

Yes,

But the brain and penis is not required world wide. 

[Road Warrior]

well done thai drivers keep up killing other !!!  so sad and waste of life but they will never learn !!

[Lemonltr]

Some are comparing the 72 one day road deaths to the 60 covid deaths so far this year. 

Similar population UK had 595 one day covid deaths yesterday. 

 

 

 

[soalbundy]

22 hours ago, Trentham said:

I "partially" blame religion. If you believe that you have another life after this it does not matter if you cut this one short.

Let me die a youngman's death
not a free from sin tiptoe in
candle wax and waning death
not a curtains drawn by angels borne
'what a nice way to go' death