4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thank you for acknowledging that biden hasn't officially won!

Some may think and have claimed it!

But truth be told 

Things are grim for you if thats all youve got.

30 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Is it official?

 

Will be in the near future. trump and co are making a mockery of good governance for truly pathetic reasons i.e. stirring up the cult like base in the vain hope of a corrupt dynastic presidency. 

53 minutes ago, riclag said:

Nah! I have the truth on my side,! It's not official !

If you are a supporter of Trump, the truth is not on your side.   But yes it's about as official as it gets.   The people have voted, the votes have been counted and the Trump legal temper-tantrums aren't going to change the count.   

 

The topic is about Biden solidifying his win.   

 

Trump is a loser and a sore loser at that.

 

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

He has a difficult task ahead, getting the pandemic under control and uniting a nation deliberately fractured by Trump.

For me the most difficult part will be trying to "unite the nation deliberately fractured by Trump" because that seems to run very deep at the moment.

 

I have mentioned in my posts before that I'm surprised the term "commie" or "communist" has come into frequent use by the Republicans and trump supporters, because it really shows their ignorance in not knowing where the Democrats stand on the political spectrum, and it's certainly not on the left.

 

To further enable that lie, there are groups like the "proud boys" or QAnon and other right-wing publications dealing in such rubbish as "deep state", again all designed to drive a wedge between the two parties, when what is necessary for that country to heal, is a better understanding of their political standings and their policies.

 

Unfortunately the trump regime has introduced some very unlikeable traits and characters into the mix, and along with his lies and tweets, have corrupted the political landscape, and this will be hard to undo.

 

So sad, and it brings to mind the last line in a song by "The Nice" (which I saw them perform live) where they burnt the American flag at the end of the song which caused a huge furore, and this was accompanied by the line, "America is pregnant with promises and anticipation but is murdered by the hand of the inevitable".

 

23 minutes ago, xylophone said:

For me the most difficult part will be trying to "unite the nation deliberately fractured by Trump" because that seems to run very deep at the moment.

 

I have mentioned in my posts before that I'm surprised the term "commie" or "communist" has come into frequent use by the Republicans and trump supporters, because it really shows their ignorance in not knowing where the Democrats stand on the political spectrum, and it's certainly not on the left.

 

 

As I have said before, in most other countries the Democrats would be regarded as right of centre. Certainly, they are further to the right than an Australian conservative government. Climate change excepted, but that's our own mess brought about by a Prime Minister who was as toxic as Trump.

I've never had a coherent answer from any American on the subject of socialism when I put the question

" You've never tried it, so how can you know it is bad?"

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

As I have said before, in most other countries the Democrats would be regarded as right of centre. Certainly, they are further to the right than an Australian conservative government. Climate change excepted, but that's our own mess brought about by a Prime Minister who was as toxic as Trump.

I've never had a coherent answer from any American on the subject of socialism when I put the question

" You've never tried it, so how can you know it is bad?"

I've never tried meth either but I've made a conscious decision to not use.

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've never tried meth either but I've made a conscious decision to not use.

Not bad as a red herring.

Socialist governments brought in the Medicare and PBS systems in Australia. One can go to any hospital there for free treatment. The PBS means one pays $6.50 per prescription, irrespective of the price the manufacturer has put on it.

Elective surgery, one goes on a waiting list. Some are long, some short. If one wants to short circuit that waiting time, there is private health cover. I pay 2700 AUD per year for mine. I understand it costs families in America that much per month, and Big Pharma drives some individuals into skipping rent and food to keep themselves alive.

So enumerate the benefits of the US capitalist system for the majority of Americans, please. Healthcare certainly is not one of them.

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Not bad as a red herring.

Socialist governments brought in the Medicare and PBS systems in Australia. One can go to any hospital there for free treatment. The PBS means one pays $6.50 per prescription, irrespective of the price the manufacturer has put on it.

Elective surgery, one goes on a waiting list. Some are long, some short. If one wants to short circuit that waiting time, there is private health cover. I pay 2700 AUD per year for mine. I understand it costs families in America that much per month, and Big Pharma drives some individuals into skipping rent and food to keep themselves alive.

So enumerate the benefits of the US capitalist system for the majority of Americans, please. Healthcare certainly is not one of them.

Not going down that rabbit hole. Nothing is free in this world, nothing.

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Not going down that rabbit hole. Nothing is free in this world, nothing.

Did I say it was? The taxpayer foots the bill, naturally. It seems to work quite well for us, the electorate gives the conservative arm of politics a bloody nose every time they try to mess with it.

I  thought you would have jumped all over the chance to tell me how wonderful American free enterprise is, do I hear the sound of chicken wings flapping?

 

19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Not going down that rabbit hole. Nothing is free in this world, nothing.

His advice was free. 

20 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You lost by a margin you called a ‘landslide’ back in 2016. 

 

 

But don't you know he was only lying when he said that?     He didn't really mean it.    Just call it lie # 20,000 plus!!

29 minutes ago, Sujo said:

His advice was free. 

Indeed,or to put it another way.."take care of the nickels and dimes and the posts will take care of themselves...

4 hours ago, Sujo said:

Things are grim for you if thats all youve got.

Spoiler.  That's all they got. 

Edited November 15, 20205 yr by shdmn

9 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I miss them days when you keep telling us all trump will win in a landslide, Sad

I think they meant a judicial coup landslide; with the Supreme Court voting 6-3 to end democracy in the US.

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Is it official !

 

5 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

Is it official?

At what point did you consider the 2016 election results official?

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

At what point did you consider the 2016 election results official?

 

official? isn't that when the states submits their final report on their findings

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Is it official !

Trump lost deal with it. 

36 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

official? isn't that when the states submits their final report on their findings

That is when it is official at the state level.  It is official at the federal level when the electoral college votes on December 14.  However, with the exception of the historically close 2000 election, the losing candidate has acknowledged the obvious well before this time for the good of the country.

 

Hillary Clinton acknowledged the obvious on election night in 2016, and that election was much closer.  I guess Donald Trump isn't as much of a man as HRC.

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9 hours ago, riclag said:

Nah! I have the truth on my side,! It's not official !

Seriously why does it matter ?

Sure it confirms what we know already about Trump but how does denial help anybody , just further trashing the reputation of the USA.

Trump supporters just cannot accept the innevitable. But but but hillary will be next. While joe slipped under the radar and snookered them.

 

306 and over 5 million votes lead. Get over it.

Considering Trumps History, it does not matter if he stays in Power legally or illegally.

 

If he could, he would demand that only his votes are counted.

 

It does not have much to do with politics anymore, it is a cult.

 

Hopefully the mess can be undone in the future and it can be a great Country again.

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8 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Not going down that rabbit hole. Nothing is free in this world, nothing.

Just in some place things cost a lot less and the quality is a lot better.

16 hours ago, bendejo said:

Thanks, Rudy

Giuliani wrecks Trump campaign's well-laid legal plans

 

 

An interesting read, on a site which is new to me. What does strike me is just how well prepared the Republican Party was for the post election legal challenges - teams of lawyers assembled, reactions and allegations planned and rehearsed. It is almost as if, cynically, they knew that they were going to lose at the polls, and were prepared and planning to overturn the result!

 

Then of course it all went to r*tsh*t when it ran into Mr Trumps vast ego, along with Mr Giuliani's antics playing Mutley to Trump's Dick Dastardly!

 

All those top end lawyers, who it seems had no scruples about signing up to using the legal process to frustrate the electoral process ($$ no doubt playing a part there) jumping ship when they realised just what they were getting involved with!

Edited November 15, 20205 yr by herfiehandbag

Mr. Trump sort of concedes in his own isn't that special way.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-biden-won-only-because-election-was-rigged-1547551

 

Trump Says Biden Won, But Only Because the 'Election Was Rigged'

13 hours ago, riclag said:

Is it official!

Trump admits it. Will you?

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-admits-joe-biden-won-us-presidential-election-for-the-first-time/news-story/4ade7cf6852e2067e7e6440a0ad9159a

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Trump admits it. Will you?

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-admits-joe-biden-won-us-presidential-election-for-the-first-time/news-story/4ade7cf6852e2067e7e6440a0ad9159a

Yes. Its a historic tweet. Ignore the toxic context. The first two words are the thing. So how long until he allows the transition to begin?

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

That is when it is official at the state level.  It is official at the federal level when the electoral college votes on December 14.  However, with the exception of the historically close 2000 election, the losing candidate has acknowledged the obvious well before this time for the good of the country.

 

Hillary Clinton acknowledged the obvious on election night in 2016, and that election was much closer.  I guess Donald Trump isn't as much of a man as HRC.

He's the biggest loser.  Nobody is a bigger loser than him.  Ask anyone.  Everyone is talking about it.  All the best people say so.

Edited November 15, 20205 yr by shdmn

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