SURVEY: Will Thailand stave off the virus until a vaccine is available?

[Scott]

Thailand has done very well with keeping the virus in check.  There have been a few cases of COVID, including a recent case involving a Dutch man who tested positive and was in contact with a large number of people.   In your opinion, is Thailand going to be able to keep the virus out until a vaccine is widely available?

 

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[JusticeGB]

I am surprised that Thailand has done so well. Probably there are some more cases than officially reported but I don't think that they would amount to thousands of cases. A pity that they can't do the same with the road deaths!

[rwill]

I wouldn't pick any of those options.  If tourists start returning in bulk there will be more and more cases showing up.

 

Elon Musk said he took 4 different tests.   2 came back positive and 2 negative.  So testing will not prevent the spread.

[DefaultName]

They're doing more and more to let money tourists in.  Sooner or later, it'll get loose.

[Somchai Jackson]

As the WHO noted Thailand is a role model for the world when it comes to controlling Covid.  The UN and WHO should pick a Thai Covid advisor to teach the rest of the world.  England and the US could learn a thing or two from these proactive Thais.

[sapson]

40 minutes ago, Somchai Jackson said:

As the WHO noted Thailand is a role model for the world when it comes to controlling Covid.  The UN and WHO should pick a Thai Covid advisor to teach the rest of the world.  England and the US could learn a thing or two from these proactive Thais

 

A simple method to keep the numbers down, only test returnees or those in quarantine.

 

Continue with the policy of no routine testing for those attending hospitals or clinics nationwide even though they have many of the symptoms.

 

Make routine testing for covid expensive and not widely available or encouraged and certainly do not test for covid with sickness and deaths which could otherwise be attributed to other causes in most age groups.

[Somchai Jackson]

12 minutes ago, sapson said:

 

A simple method to keep the numbers down, only test returnees or those in quarantine.

 

Continue with the policy of no routine testing for those attending hospitals or clinics nationwide even though they have many of the symptoms.

 

Make routine testing for covid expensive and not widely available or encouraged and certainly do not test for covid with sickness and deaths which could otherwise be attributed to other causes in most age groups.

Fake news.  Where are the published facts that Thailand is suppressing testing?  Source? 
Thailand is doing a stellar job though progressive modern health policy.  Even the WHO acknowledges that.

[hlj]

With only .03% tested there are no one sure of how many cases there are here. Thailand is 2nd from the bottom with education and many who may have it just thinks it is the flu. I also notice the returning to Thailand on Thai Visa from 5 to 10 people daily are testing positive for the virus.

These numbers are never seen on the corvid report. 

[Oldie]

I think Thailand will get a bigger Covid problem within the next months. Now they allow even tourists from high risk countries to enter. And as seen so far the arrivals are not always free of Covid. And the question is how many will not be discovered. And when the tourists are in the country they often move to several places and have contact to many different people. Or just imagine a bar hopper that has Corona. Or such a guy in a Disco that is full of people. I have a bad feeling... 

[sapson]

1 minute ago, Somchai Jackson said:

Fake news.  Where are the published facts that Thailand is suppressing testing?  Source? 
Thailand is doing a stellar job though progressive modern health policy.  Even the WHO acknowledges that.

 

Perhaps the daily testing figures and results from hospital and clinics nationwide is available online and maybe I have missed this information.

 

We have a daily statement of the positive covid tests from those in quarantine, but nothing regarding the daily testing of a percentage of the other 69.8 million.

[Jumbo1968]

I think if Thailand started mass testing there could be a few more cases and wide spread panic.

[rabas]

Thailand did surprisingly well largely due to the people, medical personnel, hospitals, universities, and business owners who took it in stride without making a fuss.They didn't get ensnared in all the Western science about who, what, when, where, and how to wear masks. They approached the problem Thai style using available resources, not forgetting they were the first outside China to sequence the genome.

 

Some things were in their favor, possibly the climate and the less infectious 614D strain that spread early throughout S. E. Asia. One concern is a tourist or returnee from the West triggering a fast spreading event, in which case they need to hop on it fast.

[onthedarkside]

A post making false and unsubstantiated claims about the current coronavirus pandemic has been removed.

 

[Jingthing]

So vaccines are coming.

That's great.

Will Thailand use their own vaccine or a "foreign" one?

The beginning of vaccine availability is only the beginning.

It takes several months for it to be widely available.

Then months after that to have a major effect IF a very large percentage of the population actually gets the jabs. Plural because it's looking like two jabs will be needed depending on the vaccine.

So I'm concerned that Thailand (like most other countries) is going to see the announcement of vaccines as an instant magic bullet and not even have mass compliance.

So bottom line I'm really not sure what's in store for Thailand.

We already have stories of other countries that had good control and then didn't. 

 

[Meat Pie 47]

4 hours ago, Somchai Jackson said:

Fake news.  Where are the published facts that Thailand is suppressing testing?  Source? 
Thailand is doing a stellar job though progressive modern health policy.  Even the WHO acknowledges that.

Yes and WHO is saying Indonesia is doing well

[onthedarkside]

54 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Yes and WHO is saying Indonesia is doing well

 

Thailand's COVID testing on a per capita basis, meaning adjusted for population, is relatively low compared to other countries.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-02-20..latest&country=HKG~THA~GBR~USA~Singapore%2C people tested~PHL~MMR~JPN~IDN~CHN

 

 

[Virt]

1 hour ago, onthedarkside said:

 

Thailand's COVID testing on a per capita basis, meaning adjusted for population, is relatively low compared to other countries.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-02-20..latest&country=HKG~THA~GBR~USA~Singapore%2C people tested~PHL~MMR~JPN~IDN~CHN

 

 

 

Try and compare Denmark and Thailand and see a chart that is quite insane and clearly shows that Thailand is virtually not testing anyone. 

 

Off course they are looking good on all statistics if they don't test the same % as many countries. 

 

It would be nice if each country tested the same % of the population so we had a more clear picture.  

 

I however do believe that Thailand is one of the countries with fewer infected pr 100.000 than most other countries. I just don't believe their current statistics with so few tests beeing done. 

 

 

 

 

[sammieuk1]

4) Who believes a single word ever uttered by this rancid government on anything ????

[pegman]

3 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

 

Thailand's COVID testing on a per capita basis, meaning adjusted for population, is relatively low compared to other countries.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand?yScale=log&time=2020-02-20..latest&country=HKG~THA~GBR~USA~Singapore%2C people tested~PHL~MMR~JPN~IDN~CHN

 

 

This shows if your people act like idiots, or your politicians are weak, no matter how much testing is done you're in big trouble. Moderna's vaccine is 94.5% effective. It will be ready to go in a couple months. Hot spots can be brought under control on a priority basis. I think we are close to stamping this scrooge out. Just be careful untill that happens. 

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, pegman said:

This shows if your people act like idiots, or your politicians are weak, no matter how much testing is done you're in big trouble. Moderna's vaccine is 94.5% effective. It will be ready to go in a couple months. Hot spots can be brought under control on a priority basis. I think we are close to stamping this scrooge out. Just be careful untill that happens. 

Hold your horses.

If all goes well, it will likely be available in the U.S. in a few months for the very high risk / front line health workers ONLY.

Then several months before being available for the masses.

Then the masses actually have to get their probably TWO doses.

The Moderna vaccine sounds like the best so far because even though two doses only needs normal refrigeration. 

But is Thailand on the list of countries with good and fast access to it?

Does anyone know?

Wasn't there an item recently that Thailand is interested in using their own developed vaccine that (correct me if I'm wrong) has only been tested on animals?
I'm the opposite of an anti-vaccer but that doesn't sound very good!

 

There is some irony in the U.S. situation.

Absolutely the most tragically bad response to the pandemic, befouled by absurd political conflict over basic health measures such as mask wearing.

Yet now it appears that the U.S. is in the driver's seat on vaccines.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

4) Who believes a single word ever uttered by this rancid government on anything ????

A loaded question but sure, I do.

Like when they announce a special three day weekend. 

[pegman]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Hold your horses.

If all goes well, it will likely be available in the U.S. in a few months for the very high risk / front line health workers ONLY.

Then several months before being available for the masses.

Then the masses actually have to get their probably TWO doses.

The Moderna vaccine sounds like the best so far because even though two doses only needs normal refrigeration. 

But is Thailand on the list of countries with good and fast access to it?

Does anyone know?

Wasn't there an item recently that Thailand is interested in using their own developed vaccine that (correct me if I'm wrong) has only been tested on animals?
I'm the opposite of an anti-vaccer but that doesn't sound very good!

There will likely be factories all over the world producing these vaccines so who cares what Loony Toons USA do. Chances are they will be in civil war by then anyhow. Thailand will license a vaccine that has a high degree of confidence and produce its own. Travellers will then flood in with proof of vaccination.  Normalcy is near. 

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, pegman said:

There will likely be factories all over the world producing these vaccines so who cares what Loony Toons USA do. Chances are they will be in civil war by then anyhow. Thailand will license a vaccine that has a high degree of confidence and produce its own. Travellers will then flood in with proof of vaccination.  Normalcy is near. 

If you say so.

But vaccines with over 90 percent effectiveness rate that don't need extraordinary temperature control don't grow on trees.

In fact, it has been considered adequate to push out a vaccine that has only 50 percent effectiveness.

But you act like you can predict the details of the future on this, but sorry, not buying your bravado.

Too early for such wildly optimistic timing projections.

[pegman]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

If you say so.

But vaccines with over 90 percent effectiveness rate that don't need extraordinary temperature control don't grow on trees.

In fact, it has been considered adequate to push out a vaccine that has only 50 percent effectiveness.

But you act like you can predict the details of the future on this, but sorry, not buying your bravado.

Too early for such wildly optimistic timing projections.

Well, I've pretty much always been a leftie optimist. Just like my avatar  pic who was a countryman of yourself. Governments will move  heaven and earth  to get this situation under control. Let's revisit this in March. 

[overherebc]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So vaccines are coming.

That's great.

Will Thailand use their own vaccine or a "foreign" one?

The beginning of vaccine availability is only the beginning.

It takes several months for it to be widely available.

Then months after that to have a major effect IF a very large percentage of the population actually gets the jabs. Plural because it's looking like two jabs will be needed depending on the vaccine.

So I'm concerned that Thailand (like most other countries) is going to see the announcement of vaccines as an instant magic bullet and not even have mass compliance.

So bottom line I'm really not sure what's in store for Thailand.

We already have stories of other countries that had good control and then didn't. 

 

Agree on timing.  The vaccine tests ongoing in UK on x,000 people at the moment are expected to show results in 8 to 9 months. The results may be good or bad. 

[KannikaP]

15 hours ago, Somchai Jackson said:

As the WHO noted Thailand is a role model for the world when it comes to controlling Covid.  The UN and WHO should pick a Thai Covid advisor to teach the rest of the world.  England and the US could learn a thing or two from these proactive Thais.

You didn't put LOL or 555 after your post.

[ChakaKhan]

16 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Sooner or later, it'll get loose.

Overheard in the space, curtained off next to me, during last oil massage in LOS    ????

[ChakaKhan]

4 hours ago, pegman said:

so who cares what Loony Toons USA do

Giant Chicken "Foghorn Leghorn" currently squatting in his Henhouse(WH) is gonna rage tweet at you

 

Prepare for his Hate Army outside your door any moment to be "Liberated"...Looney tunes cancelled jan 20th..

[ChakaKhan]

6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

4) Who believes a single word ever uttered by this rancid government on anything ????

Half of the Covidiots over here..United States   Welcome to the Purge....

[pegman]

55 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Agree on timing.  The vaccine tests ongoing in UK on x,000 people at the moment are expected to show results in 8 to 9 months. The results may be good or bad. 

Don't know about elsewhere but the Minister  of Procurement for the federal government in Canada was just on the news and she says we're ready to go.  The military here will be deployed to look after logistics. No hysterics, no  bombastic grandstanding, no nonsense just get 'er done. We did  have a few lunatics over the weekend protesting about wearing a mask but they will be receiving a $1300 ticket in the mail shortly.