Trump stumps in Georgia for two Republican candidates while pressing vote fraud claims

[rooster59]

Trump stumps in Georgia for two Republican candidates while pressing vote fraud claims

By Jeff Mason

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump walks on the South Lawn of the White House upon his return to Washington from Camp David, U.S., November 29, 2020. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas/File Photo

 

VALDOSTA, Georgia (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump campaigned in Georgia on Saturday for two Republican senators at a rally that some in his party fear could end up hurting, not helping, their chances if he focuses on efforts to reverse his own election defeat.

 

In his first campaign rally since he lost to Democrat Joe Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential contest, the Republican Trump reminded the chanting crowd that he came to southern Georgia on behalf of the senators, who face runoffs on Jan. 5.

 

But he quickly turned to his repeated claims, made without evidence, of widespread fraud in the presidential election.

 

"They cheated and rigged our presidential election but we'll still win it. And they are going to try to rig this election too," Trump told the crowd, who chanted "We love you!" and "Four More Years!"

 

Trump's claims have been rejected by state and federal officials across the country, and his campaign's numerous legal challenges have almost all failed.

 

Trump has also attacked Republicans who have refused to back him, including Georgia's governor, Brian Kemp, and its secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger.

 

Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to win in the southern state since 1992. Statewide recounts, including a painstaking review by hand of some 5 million ballots, turned up no significant irregularities.

 

The two Republican senators, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, are running against well-funded Democratic challengers Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock seeking to capture a state that has not elected a Democratic senator in 20 years.

 

The races will determine which party controls the U.S. Senate. Democrats, who already have the majority in the House of Representatives, need to win both seats to control the Senate. If Republicans win one seat, they will retain their majority and be able to block much of Biden's legislative agenda.

 

Biden said he would visit Georgia to campaign for the Democratic candidates but did not give a timetable for his trip.

 

Earlier on Saturday, Trump phoned Kemp and pressured him on Twitter to take further steps to benefit his bid to reverse the election results.

 

"I will easily & quickly win Georgia if Governor @BrianKempGA or the Secretary of State permit a simple signature verification ... Why are these two 'Republicans' saying no?" Trump wrote on Twitter.

 

After Kemp responded on Twitter that he had "publicly called for a signature audit three times," Trump said that wasn't good enough, and added in a second tweet that the governor should immediately call a special session of the state legislature.

 

"Your people are refusing to do what you ask. What are they hiding?" Trump said.

 

Kemp was not at the rally, one day after the death in a car crash of Harrison Deal, a close family friend of the governor and staffer for Loeffler.

 

In a move unprecedented in modern U.S. history, the Trump team has tried, without success, to get Republican-controlled legislatures in battleground states won by Biden to set aside the results and declare Trump the winner.

 

Biden won the election with 306 Electoral College votes - against the 270 required - to Trump's 232. The Electoral College will meet on Dec. 14 to formalize the outcome.

 

Trump's penchant for making his political rallies all about him - and now, about his claims the U.S. electoral system is rigged - has raised concerns among some Republicans that his appearance in Georgia could end up turning voters off or making them feel there is no point in voting.

 

Matt Towery, a former Georgia Republican legislator who is now a political analyst and pollster, said Trump could help the Republicans if he talks about the candidates, but warned:

 

"If he talks about them for 10 minutes and spends the rest of the time telling everyone how terrible Brian Kemp is, then it will only exacerbate things."

 

Two pro-Trump lawyers, L. Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, have argued that Georgians should not vote in the runoff until issues from the 2020 election are resolved in the state, even after lawsuits they have filed to overturn the results have failed.

 

Trump's refusal to concede has forced Loeffler and Perdue to walk a fine line. Even as they warn voters of the dangers of a Democratic Senate majority, they will not say Biden won the White House.

 

They are not alone in their reticence. After contacting all 249 Republicans in the U.S. House and the Senate, The Washington Post said only 27 of them would say Biden won or have called him the president-elect. Two said they considered Trump the winner.

 

(Reporting by Joseph Ax in Princeton, New Jersey and Makini Brice and Steve Holland in Washington; Writing by Sonya Hepinstall; Editing by Mary Milliken, Chizu Nomiyama and Daniel Wallis)

 

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[bendejo]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Two pro-Trump lawyers, L. Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, have argued that Georgians should not vote in the runoff until issues from the 2020 election are resolved in the state, even after lawsuits they have filed to overturn the results have failed.

 

She's right, the Republican-voting people of Georgia should abstain from voting.  It is against the US Constitution to demand that the citizens vote.  It's the Democrats who are always urging people to vote, who do they think they are?  Protect your freedom, refuse to vote, it will bother the Dems to no end!

 

 

[ballpoint]

Can't they find someone better to campaign for them than this loser?

[AlexRich]

Psychopath. 

[Tug]

Pretty pathetic mostly lying about the election and working his grift amongst the rubes little time spent in urging folks to vote for the two insider trader/ republican senators lots of attacking republicans who have integrity the usual trump bile fest

[Ireland32]

Disgrace to Democracy 

Edited December 6, 2020 by Ireland32

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Ireland32 said:

Disgrace to Democracy 

Yep and making the USA the laughing stock of the world for voting for this idiot in the first place.

[Phoenix Rising]

Things just aren't going trump's way these days and when he's out of office things will go from bad to worse. Go SDNY!

 

Georgia Gov. Pushes Back Against Trump's Last-Ditch Attempts To Subvert Election

 

"Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R), once a close ally of President Donald Trump, has reportedly pushed back against Trump’s last-ditch attempts to interfere in the state’s presidential election results. During a phone call on Saturday, Kemp refused a request from Trump to call a special session of the Georgia legislature to overturn the outcome of last month’s election, The Washington Post and The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Trump wants state lawmakers to throw out the result ― which favored his opponent, President-elect Joe Biden ― and appoint electors who will back him instead."

[OneMoreFarang]

I wonder how many people over there go to see Trump because they like and support him and how many go because they want to see the village-idiot, or whatever that is called on national level, in action.

I don't think there is any comedian who could make this up.

[riclag]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

In his first campaign rally since he lost to Democrat Joe Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential contest, the Republican Trump reminded the chanting crowd that he came to southern Georgia on behalf of the senators, who face runoffs on Jan. 5

 

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

In a move unprecedented in modern U.S. history, the Trump team has tried, without success, to get Republican-controlled legislatures in battleground states won by Biden to set aside the results and declare Trump the winner.

 

Biden won the election with 306 Electoral College votes - against the 270 required - to Trump's 232. The Electoral College will meet on Dec. 14 to formalize the outcome.

 The POTUS hasn't conceded !My countries Presidential election is still being contested in the courts!  Mr. Trump is very confident that he will  have another 4 years !  Looking forward to the gop senators winning !Looking forward to Mr. Trump being sworn in on Jan,21

Edited December 6, 2020 by riclag

[Tie Dye Samurai]

18 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I wonder how many people over there go to see Trump because they like and support him and how many go because they want to see the village-idiot, or whatever that is called on national level, in action.

I don't think there is any comedian who could make this up.

I imagine it is probably the same scenario as when people go to see a Kenneth Copeland or a Robert Tilton....and the same grift and lack of credibility exists in all three of these men. Why doesnt he just set up Trump Ministries and totally lift the curtain....

[rudi49jr]

This whole “the Dems stole the election” schtick that Trumps keep repeating is just a huge money-milking operation, 170 million dollars so far and still counting. Must be a lot of wealthy rubes out there who probably also still believe in Santa Claus.

On a side note: Roger Stone came up with a doozy of a conspiracy theory. He claimed that a North Korean ship brought in votes for Biden through a port in Maine. And still probably tens of millions of gullible Americans will believe outrageous claims like that. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/roger-stone-trump-election-north-korea-fraud-b1766084.html

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I wonder how many people over there go to see Trump because they like and support him and how many go because they want to see the village-idiot, or whatever that is called on national level, in action.

I don't think there is any comedian who could make this up.

Yeah, and add to that his rallies are almost all in more backwater areas, the types of regions where people go to watch haircuts on Saturday night. So going to a rally for many of those people is the most exciting thing they've done in their entire lives.

[Tchooptip]

43 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

 The POTUS hasn't conceded !My countries Presidential election is still being contested in the courts!  Mr. Trump is very confident that he will  have another 4 years !  Looking forward to the gop senators winning !Looking forward to Mr. Trump being sworn in on Jan,21

Federal judges appointed by both Republican and Democratic presidents have struck down every allegation of widespread voter fraud. 

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

58 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

 The POTUS hasn't conceded !My countries Presidential election is still being contested in the courts!  Mr. Trump is very confident that he will  have another 4 years !  Looking forward to the gop senators winning !Looking forward to Mr. Trump being sworn in on Jan,21

'"No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities." - Christian Nestell Bovee

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Trump stumps in Georgia for two Republican candidates while pressing vote fraud

fantasies

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

"They cheated and rigged our presidential election but we'll still win it. And they are going to try to rig this election too," Trump told the crowd,

In order of delusion

 

Nope, nope, dream on and nope

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

 

 The POTUS hasn't conceded !My countries Presidential election is still being contested in the courts!  Mr. Trump is very confident that he will  have another 4 years !  Looking forward to the gop senators winning !Looking forward to Mr. Trump being sworn in on Jan,21

Do you have a plan B?

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

and the crazy talk tour continues!

 

as for me, i'm looking forward to enjoying the lady on saturday night live.

 

source:  cnn youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofZOWzd4YjE

 

[heybruce]

On 12/6/2020 at 10:33 AM, bendejo said:

 

She's right, the Republican-voting people of Georgia should abstain from voting.  It is against the US Constitution to demand that the citizens vote.  It's the Democrats who are always urging people to vote, who do they think they are?  Protect your freedom, refuse to vote, it will bother the Dems to no end!

 

I second the above, especially the final sentence.  As a Democrat who has long been appalled by voter suppression and low voter turn-out, the worst thing the Trump supporters could do to me is refuse to vote in the upcoming Georgia Senate election.

 

Edited December 7, 2020 by onthedarkside
quote of hidden post removed

[nauseus]

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We’ve all seen Trump’s star witness ‘Melissa Carone’.

 

Is she a comic genius or screaming lunatic, whatever, she’s not a credible witness.

 

Have you, all? Did you watch the whole thing? If you didn't then you should because it is one of the most direct examples of allegations of large-scale cheating. She also has supplied a sworn affidavit and she said has since suffered abuse threats. She is not the only one to say this. I think the laughs were in response to her having the cheek to question the questioner in such a blunt way.    

Edited December 6, 2020 by nauseus
poor grammar

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

More loud mouth claims, unsupported by any evidence? Undoubtedly.

There is plenty of evidence. It seems that the problem is finding judges with the inclination and will to give it a fair hearing.

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

No they haven't and it looks like there will be more.

Ok, which claims have not been investigated and debunked?

[stevenl]

Just now, nauseus said:

There is plenty of evidence. It seems that the problem is finding judges with the inclination and will to give it a fair hearing.

Nonsense, no evidence has been provided for large scale fraud, none at all. Even stronger, in front of the courts the claim 'large scale voter fraud' has not been made.

[Lacessit]

Just now, nauseus said:

 

Have you, all? Did you watch the whole thing? If you didn't then you should because it is one of the most direct example of allegations of large-scale cheating. She also has supplied a sworn affidavit and she said has since suffered abuse threats. She is not the only one to say this. I think the laughs were in response to her having the cheek to question the questioner in such a blunt way.    

These abuse threats, has she produced any proof of these to turn over to law enforcement?

What are the penalties for lying on a sworn affidavit in the USA? In Australia, it is up to 5 years jail for making a false statement on a Statutory Declaration. Perhaps she fantasizes about joining Trump in jail.

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Nonsense, no evidence has been provided for large scale fraud, none at all. Even stronger, in front of the courts the claim 'large scale voter fraud' has not been made.

 

in public, it's the greatest fraud the world has ever seen.

but when asked directly, in court where there are penalties for perjury........

 

But under questioning from U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann, Giuliani admitted, “This is not a fraud case.”

 

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-11-17/trump-election-lawsuits-fizzle-as-giuliani-appears-in-court-for-him

[Rimmer]

Some flames / personal attacks have been removed, more of the same just because someone has a different opinion will get you suspended,

[Tie Dye Samurai]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

There is plenty of evidence. It seems that the problem is finding judges with the inclination and will to give it a fair hearing.

Yeah, why cant all of these judges....republican and democrat alike....get on The Dear President Trump Train and drive this bad boy into the station for four more years of grifting democracy destroying greatness. Stupid liberals, how were they so smart to steal the most scrutinized election in American history to the point that MAGA cant figure out a way to grift their way back to the white house? Lets just boycott the Georgia Senate runoffs so the Libs don't make us look even more stupid by stealing that election too....because lord knows we obviously cant stop them from cheating...

 

Wow...

 

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

These abuse threats, has she produced any proof of these to turn over to law enforcement?

What are the penalties for lying on a sworn affidavit in the USA? In Australia, it is up to 5 years jail for making a false statement on a Statutory Declaration. Perhaps she fantasizes about joining Trump in jail.

 

I don't know if she has reported any abuse threats. In the hearing it was announced that she has a a sworn affidavit w.r.t vote counting irregularities and that she is aware of the penalties which also include jail in the USA. 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

Yeah, why cant all of these judges....republican and democrat alike....get on The Dear President Trump Train and drive this bad boy into the station for four more years of grifting democracy destroying greatness. Stupid liberals, how were they so smart to steal the most scrutinized election in American history to the point that MAGA cant figure out a way to grift their way back to the white house? Lets just boycott the Georgia Senate runoffs so the Libs don't make us look even more stupid by stealing that election too....because lord knows we obviously cant stop them from cheating...

 

Wow...

 

 

Yeah. Wow.