UK travellers ‘will not be blocked’ over mutated Covid-19 strain

[snoop1130]

UK travellers ‘will not be blocked’ over mutated Covid-19 strain

By The Nation

 

 

Thailand’s measures to control the spread of Covid-19 are strong enough to not warrant special measures against travellers from the United Kingdom, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Thanee Saengrat said.

 

As for the mutated strain of Covid-19 in the UK, she said the British family of four went into 14-day quarantine immediately upon arrival and though they tested positive on Sunday, they had not come in contact with anyone.

 

Meanwhile, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration has said there is no conclusive evidence on how serious this strain of Covid-19 is and there is no information as to whether it is exclusively from the UK.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30400720

 

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[YetAnother]

6 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand’s measures to control the spread of Covid-19 are strong enough to not warrant special measures against travellers from the United Kingdom, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Thanee Saengrat said.

haha; sadly; imagine if you are in the UK, having gone thru the 31 steps, family of 4, very expensive ; and now thailand says 'yes','no','maybe'

[Mango Bob]

No you can not come here, oh yes you can come here.  No wonder nobody knows what the hell is going on.   Forget about tourist coming here Only those in love will  be coming.  The government and it leadership has again screwed this up.  They should be the last ones to get the vaccine after every Thai has been given two jabs.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Mango Bob

[Blumpie]

Oh really?  Were they on a plane?

In the UK they are not allowing people to travel now.  Ha ha ha!  

Thailand, what on earth are you doing?  

[Soikhaonoiken]

Why the big change of heart, did you do your research and discovered that this new strain of covid 19 originated in South Africa, and not the UK, or is it that the UK, might just ban travellers from Thailand.... 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

truth is that the situation in the U.K. is very bad, and reminds italy in march 2020.

the health system is on brink of collpase, hospitals

are full of sick people, also young, and ambulabces do not respond to calls anymore, or come very late,

the lockdown is for unlimited time, and some experts say only next year, yes, 2022, U.K. will come out

of this mess.

[Kadilo]

21 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

truth is that the situation in the U.K. is very bad, and reminds italy in march 2020.

the health system is on brink of collpase, hospitals

are full of sick people, also young, and ambulabces do not respond to calls anymore, or come very late,

the lockdown is for unlimited time, and some experts say only next year, yes, 2022, U.K. will come out

of this mess.

1) the Health system is not on the brink of collapse otherwise they would be using the Nightingale hospitals, which they are not. Yes they are busy and 1/3 on average are Covid patients but most areas are still carrying out operations as normal. 

2) “hospitals are full of sick people” .....yes, that’s what they are used for

3) ambulances are still responding to emergencies, 

4) we have just had an update from Boris the Baffoon where he has said he expects the lockdown and things to being to get back to “normal” by Spring. 

 

So basically stop posting scare mongering lies.  

Edited January 5, 2021 by Kadilo

[Kadilo]

Dear Thanee

 

Dont worry too much. As much as we love the idea of being quarantined  sitting in a hotel for 14 days looking at the lovely  decor, our Government has sadly prevented us from enjoying this unique experience by introducing our very own lockdown. 

 

We hope we will soon have the opportunity again spend our hard earned money on your very generous offer. 

 

Thank you. 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

get back to “normal” by Spring.

what normal and what spring?

if you mean the new normal, than it means the corona will not disapear by spring, unless

you mean next year spring.

 

i am not spreading mongering lies. i spread what my friends told me. they know the health system and

they see where it is headed. there is  a difference between how the regular person see things, and

how a proffesional see them. it takes just a bit more than usual seriously sick people to collapse a health system, and than it all collapse like domino. that is what happaned in italy and spain last spring.

U.K. is not there, but could get there very quick, in  a mattar of few weeks, if the current lockdown was not

determined.

[Kadilo]

3 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

what normal and what spring?

if you mean the new normal, than it means the corona will not disapear by spring, unless

you mean next year spring.

 

i am not spreading mongering lies. i spread what my friends told me. they know the health system and

they see where it is headed. there is  a difference between how the regular person see things, and

how a proffesional see them. it takes just a bit more than usual seriously sick people to collapse a health system, and than it all collapse like domino. that is what happaned in italy and spain last spring.

U.K. is not there, but could get there very quick, in  a mattar of few weeks, if the current lockdown was not

determined.

Everyone will be vaccinated by the Spring so even if Covid is still around, which it will be as it will never go away, like flu doesn’t, life will begin to get back to normal.  As in restrictions pretty much lifted, but maybe some may come back on next winter. Not my words but those  of the Chief ME Chris Witty and the PM

 

I’m here. Are you ?? 

 

I’ve just watched the broadcast and listened to the “experts”. so i don’t give a jot what your  “friends” say. 

 

No one is doubting it’s not a good time but posting inaccurate lies and rumours doesnt help anyone. 

 

 

[ewingjm]

25 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

are full of sick people, also young

 

Let's not forget that the average age at death from COVID-19 in the UK is a whopping 82. A nurse being interviewed on TV recently was also called out for claiming that the wards were full of children - apparently, this was a complete fabrication. The vast, vast majority of hospitalisations are the elderly.

[ewingjm]

5 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Everyone will be vaccinated by the Spring

 

The groups that COVID-19 poses the most risk to should be vaccinated by then - allowing the rest of us to carry on. The young and groups not considered to be at risk likely won't be vaccinated until some time in 2022. However, that won't be an issue given that it's a minor ailment to most.

[Kadilo]

3 minutes ago, ewingjm said:

 

The groups that COVID-19 poses the most risk to should be vaccinated by then - allowing the rest of us to carry on. The young and groups not considered to be at risk likely won't be vaccinated until some time in 2022. However, that won't be an issue given that it's a minor ailment to most.

Well they are looking at 2 million/ week so I would think everyone will have at least one jab this year but as you say once the high riskers are vaccinated then the pressure is off the NHS and things can start to open up again. 

[roo860]

45 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

what normal and what spring?

if you mean the new normal, than it means the corona will not disapear by spring, unless

you mean next year spring.

 

i am not spreading mongering lies. i spread what my friends told me. they know the health system and

they see where it is headed. there is  a difference between how the regular person see things, and

how a proffesional see them. it takes just a bit more than usual seriously sick people to collapse a health system, and than it all collapse like domino. that is what happaned in italy and spain last spring.

U.K. is not there, but could get there very quick, in  a mattar of few weeks, if the current lockdown was not

determined.

You don't half talk some tripe, as do your imaginary friends.

Edited January 5, 2021 by roo860

[hydraides]

1 hour ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

what normal and what spring?

if you mean the new normal, than it means the corona will not disapear by spring, unless

you mean next year spring.

 

i am not spreading mongering lies. i spread what my friends told me. they know the health system and

they see where it is headed. there is  a difference between how the regular person see things, and

how a proffesional see them. it takes just a bit more than usual seriously sick people to collapse a health system, and than it all collapse like domino. that is what happaned in italy and spain last spring.

U.K. is not there, but could get there very quick, in  a mattar of few weeks, if the current lockdown was not

determined.

Nice profile picture, MR fearful! ............Give it a rest about Cov-id19!

 

Btw If you check what happened in Italy, in Bergamo, Lombardy..... That province had 100,000 deaths vs 60,000 deaths for the 2nd highest province in 2019 - Before Cov-Id!!!! Check: https://www.statista.com/statistics/569435/number-of-deaths-in-italy-by-region/ That area has a very high elderly population + Bad air pollution,  That's what it usually like there but the media wanted to make it look like a disaster was happening there because of Cov-Id

 

The chance of someone Aged 50 and under catching/dying of cov-id is extremely small, they have more risk of dying in a traffic accident

 

-The NHS is at the same capacity/patients as last years....SO STOP SPREADING LIES. Most people are going into NHS hospital for something else BUT are tested positive for Cov-id19.

 

-The main problems are arising from the fact nurses have to self isolate if they test positive (staff shortages) etc

[AlexfromManchester]

Does anyone know what is classed as legally permissible reasons for travel abroad? The only thing I can see is for work? Do you need to provide evidence at the UK airport? I am going as I am relocating but plan to apply for a work permit when I get over there. I currently only have a single entry tourist visa 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

42 minutes ago, hydraides said:

The chance of someone Aged 50 and under catching/dying of cov-id is extremely small, they have more risk of dying in a traffic accident

 

-The NHS is at the same capacity/patients as last years....SO STOP SPREADING LIES. Most people are going into NHS hospital for something else BUT are tested positive for Cov-id19.

 

-The main problems are arising from the fact nurses have to self isolate if they test positive (staff shortages) etc

maybe it is you who is spreading lies.

the whole problem in the u.k. started because of people like you, who did not want to believe

that the danger is real. as simple as that. the british government did all the possible mistakes.

and if you think that the chance of someone over 50 catching or dying from covid is slim - than

go tell it to boris johnson. he also thought so and he did get it and he did get to intensive care unit !

 

you say that most people go to NHS because of something else  but the main problem is

that the medical stuff gets infected - than you contradict yourself, because if there is no

covid problem and it is not so deadly, than the nurses has nothing to worry about. so why

wont you go the england and visit all your favorite bars without a mask. show them what a hero u r.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, ewingjm said:

The vast, vast majority of hospitalisations are the elderly.

so they can die, is that what you are saying?

[ewingjm]

5 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

so they can die, is that what you are saying?

 

No, I'm just making people aware of the facts. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.4 years, the average age of death with COVID-19 is 82 years. We'll immunise the elderly by Spring and life will continue as normal. There's no reason to portray it as Armageddon.

[lkv]

The reality is that in the UK, the number of cases has trebled in just 3 weeks, from 20K to 60K per day.

 

That's the reason for the lockdown.

 

Wait and see the outcome of today's current number of infections on hospitals, just wait another 14-28 days.

 

Bear in mind also, because of advances in the covid treatment, people now spend more time in ICU  than in March, before they either die or recover. 

 

I think some underestimate the situation, really.

Edited January 5, 2021 by lkv

[Natai Beach]

This is a funny forum. 
 

The Thais have 61 covid deaths over the course of a year and there are pages upon pages on hundreds of thread by Brits telling the Thai government and the Thai people how badly they are doing. 
 

Recently more than 61 deaths are being recorded in the UK before breakfast. Every day. 

And the Brits come up with a whole lot of excuses. And advice for others.
 

The Thais say they are considering banning flights from the UK. It gets turned and twisted into they are “banning” Brits as 50+ other countries have already done. And there is a huge outrage.

The next day the UK government locks down the whole country therefore removing the need for the Thais to ban flights from the UK to stop the spread of the UK mutant strain, but the Brits still continue to harp on about the Thai policy that never was. 
 

Imagine the harping if only 61 had died in the UK and 75,000 had died in Thailand because the Thais had refused to wear a mask etc. And because of that a new strain had developed and was killing thousands across the globe.
 

 

[cyril sneer]

35 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

This is a funny forum. 
 

The Thais have 61 covid deaths over the course of a year and there are pages upon pages on hundreds of thread by Brits telling the Thai government and the Thai people how badly they are doing. 
 

Recently more than 61 deaths are being recorded in the UK before breakfast. Every day. 

And the Brits come up with a whole lot of excuses. And advice for others.
 

The Thais say they are considering banning flights from the UK. It gets turned and twisted into they are “banning” Brits as 50+ other countries have already done. And there is a huge outrage.

The next day the UK government locks down the whole country therefore removing the need for the Thais to ban flights from the UK to stop the spread of the UK mutant strain, but the Brits still continue to harp on about the Thai policy that never was. 
 

Imagine the harping if only 61 had died in the UK and 75,000 had died in Thailand because the Thais had refused to wear a mask etc. And because of that a new strain had developed and was killing thousands across the globe.
 

 

They should have thought twice before that alcohol ban 

[Bantex]

5 hours ago, bodga said:

how  about the Nigerian  one

The Nigerian one affects your wealth not you health...

[spiekerjozef]

5 hours ago, Kadilo said:

4) we have just had an update from Boris the Baffoon where he has said he expects the lockdown and things to being to get back to “normal” by Spring. 

What year?

[theoldgit]

4 hours ago, AlexfromManchester said:

Does anyone know what is classed as legally permissible reasons for travel abroad? The only thing I can see is for work? Do you need to provide evidence at the UK airport? I am going as I am relocating but plan to apply for a work permit when I get over there. I currently only have a single entry tourist visa 

 

So you intend travelling to Thailand on a tourist visa, I suspect you may well be asked the reason for your trip at the UK point of departure, what will you say, "I'm hoping to find work in Thailand" or "I already of a job, but not the correct visa"?

 

"You can only travel internationally – or within the UK – where you first have a legally permitted reason to leave home. In addition, you should consider the public health advice in the country you are visiting"
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home

[BKKBike09]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Meanwhile, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration has said there is no conclusive evidence on how serious this strain of Covid-19 is and there is no information as to whether it is exclusively from the UK.

 

 

Good on the CCSA for calling it like it is. We can't call it the 'China Virus' but we can call it the 'UK variant' because our feckless government stoked the media and went all in on that before Christmas. Idiots. There are reports of cases of the 'UK variant' from numerous countries including last few days from the US, in people (Colorado and Florida) who have no travel history and no obvious exposure to any likely contact from the UK.

 

 

[robblok]

5 hours ago, Kadilo said:

1) the Health system is not on the brink of collapse otherwise they would be using the Nightingale hospitals, which they are not. Yes they are busy and 1/3 on average are Covid patients but most areas are still carrying out operations as normal. 

2) “hospitals are full of sick people” .....yes, that’s what they are used for

3) ambulances are still responding to emergencies, 

4) we have just had an update from Boris the Baffoon where he has said he expects the lockdown and things to being to get back to “normal” by Spring. 

 

So basically stop posting scare mongering lies.  

I did read news that hospitals in the UK are overflowing 40% busier then during the first wave. So its not unreasonable to say there is a big danger right now.

 

Same in my country right now if the spread goes on hospitals will come in trouble and already they are postponing normal operation. 

 

So its not as if nothing is happening. I think the UK and the Netherlands should be worried because if hospitals can't cope things will be bad. Its not if you can have ICU bed easy outside hospitals.

 

This was not a dig at the UK or Netherlands just pointing out that its not true that everything is alight its worse then last time. If its not gotten under control soon then it will be bad.

[thailand49]

Did she check with Chan O, before making the statement????? if she is wrong might get reassigned to the swamp like the guy who said no illegal gambling?

[robblok]

OT

 

Of course its stupid of Thais banning the UK visitors only for countries that don't have quarantine it makes sense banning people from the UK.

 

If they had banned the UK visitors then they would be admitting their state quarantine is not safe.

[overherebc]

5 hours ago, ewingjm said:

 

The groups that COVID-19 poses the most risk to should be vaccinated by then - allowing the rest of us to carry on. The young and groups not considered to be at risk likely won't be vaccinated until some time in 2022. However, that won't be an issue given that it's a minor ailment to most.

Ir would be nice to sit down and have a chat with the virus on which way it wants to mutate soon. However it might lie or tell us nothing. ????????