Trump says 25th amendment is 'zero risk to me'

[shdmn]

I wonder if he is concerned about the fact Don Jr. is now being investigated for something. Curious to see what that is all about.

 

Edited January 13, 2021 by shdmn

[simple1]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

It is likely Trump is right. Not much is going to happen in a weeks time. But the reality is that Trump is a huge risk to the nation. I think after the DC riots, the national security agencies should have figured out a way to lock him up until the 20th, then usher him back to Florida in handcuffs.

 

What he still does not seem to realize, is that most of his income, and most of his loans (which he appears to have been surviving on for some time), are corporate, and the corporate world has written him off as too great a liability. His name was already radioactive. Now? Nobody will touch him, and his the future of his businesses looks very bleak. 

 

See ya Don. You will not be missed. You are a human wrecking ball, and destroy everything you touch. 

 

Deutche Bank, among others previously forgave hundreds of millions in debt incurred by trump, possibly the banks will do the same again to get rid of him. trump and family have millions in assets, trump has a future life of luxury, will never go without, unless in prison.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/10/27/report-trump-had-over-280-million-in-debt-forgiven-and-avoided-paying-taxes-on-most-of-it/?sh=1239b5e37ac4

[Walker88]

Risk is relative. The 25th, if invoked, carries no jail sentence. The charges that will be filed against 45, both in States like NY and GA, and Federal charges---some of which stem from his inciting of violence last week---carry both jail sentences and fines.

 

45 also faces civil charges from a host of people and entities, such as Dominion, who is on a litigation rampage at the moment. Both legal costs and any fines imposed could easily wipe out the $250 million war chest 45 accumulated by fleecing his ignorant base.

 

The wild card---and I say this as a former case officer who knows the tactics and tendencies of guys like Putin---is what might Vlad do? Vlad is not someone who likes loose ends, and when someone is no longer of any use to him, but that person could reveal damaging information, Putin likes to 'clean things up'. Putin's thugs are often incompetent (read the tale of the assassination of Alexander Litvinenko), but they are relentless and cold-blooded. Scarily cold-blooded.

 

The last thing I would wish on anyone right now is to have a last name the same as 45.  45 might have a handful of SS agents after he's done, but his family loses theirs at 12:01PM next Wednesday. A former colleague named Jason Matthews wrote a few books about espionage and Russia, the first (so far) made into the movie "Red Sparrow". The most harrowing scenes in that film come not from Jason's imagination, but from knowledge of how Putin acts.

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, Whale said:

Sadly he is right there is no way the 25th amendment will be enacted, its a legal minefield of opinion.

So roll on the impeachment, at warp speed please.

[Opl]

43 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Deutche Bank, among others previously forgave hundreds of millions in debt incurred by trump, possibly the banks will do the same again to get rid of him. trump and family have millions in assets, trump has a future life of luxury, will never go without, unless in prison.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/10/27/report-trump-had-over-280-million-in-debt-forgiven-and-avoided-paying-taxes-on-most-of-it/?sh=1239b5e37ac4

+ Trump still reaping probably over $300M from disinformation fundraising messages 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Opl

[smylee52]

12 minutes ago, Opl said:

+ Trump still reaping probably over $300M from disinformation fundraising messages 

The major risk to Trump is if they confiscate his passport .  Over 70 countries do not have an extradition agreement with USA .  If the Biden administration doesn't want to deal with a prolonged prosecution they can just look the other way as Trump hops on a private jet to a welcoming haven . He will have to grease the wheels with millions in donations to those in charge but that is what the Bank of Cyprus can facilitate discreetly .

 

My vote would be UAE and Dubai specifically as he has a golf course there surrounded by the lavish lifestyle he is used to . He will have to change his dishonest ways because in Dubai you go to jail if you default on payments . Personally I would like to see  him spend the rest of his life in jail but that naively assumes the world is fair .

[candide]

7 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Deutche Bank, among others previously forgave hundreds of millions in debt incurred by trump, possibly the banks will do the same again to get rid of him. trump and family have millions in assets, trump has a future life of luxury, will never go without, unless in prison.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/10/27/report-trump-had-over-280-million-in-debt-forgiven-and-avoided-paying-taxes-on-most-of-it/?sh=1239b5e37ac4

However......

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-dropped-biggest-lender-deutsche-093545406.html

[Walker88]

9 hours ago, smylee52 said:

The major risk to Trump is if they confiscate his passport .  Over 70 countries do not have an extradition agreement with USA .  If the Biden administration doesn't want to deal with a prolonged prosecution they can just look the other way as Trump hops on a private jet to a welcoming haven . He will have to grease the wheels with millions in donations to those in charge but that is what the Bank of Cyprus can facilitate discreetly .

 

My vote would be UAE and Dubai specifically as he has a golf course there surrounded by the lavish lifestyle he is used to . He will have to change his dishonest ways because in Dubai you go to jail if you default on payments . Personally I would like to see  him spend the rest of his life in jail but that naively assumes the world is fair .

 

I suspect his future is bleak, even if he stays out of jail, which I consider most unlikely.

 

45 is no longer of use to anyone with money, because he can do nothing for them. All of his 'friends' in the Middle East or Russia or anywhere else will abandon him, because he is a loser. He has the cache of one of those 'tigers on black velvet' paintings, and the value of last week's losing lottery ticket.

 

It isn't as if he actually has a reputation as a skilled businessman. He is a failure, save for his game show and his ability to woo the woefully ignorant in US society.

 

If he is to survive in business in any way---unlikely---he has to go way downscale, such as in highway motels or short time love hotels, miniature golf, or greasy spoon diners selling unhealthy food to the morbidly obese.

 

Again, assuming he stays out of jail, I would give him at most one year before declaring personal bankruptcy and shutting down his company. His kids are going to be sending out their resumes, unless they, too, end up behind bars.

 

[Opl]

9 hours ago, smylee52 said:

The major risk to Trump is if they confiscate his passport .  Over 70 countries do not have an extradition agreement with USA .  If the Biden administration doesn't want to deal with a prolonged prosecution they can just look the other way as Trump hops on a private jet to a welcoming haven . He will have to grease the wheels with millions in donations to those in charge but that is what the Bank of Cyprus can facilitate discreetly .

 

My vote would be UAE and Dubai specifically as he has a golf course there surrounded by the lavish lifestyle he is used to . He will have to change his dishonest ways because in Dubai you go to jail if you default on payments . Personally I would like to see  him spend the rest of his life in jail but that naively assumes the world is fair .

 

+ Trump's name,  once a brand is tarnished by his failures to get re-elected and to reverse, by his machination, the results of the elections.. 

"“As he’s walking out of the palace gates he’s torching the kingdom, but in doing so he’s permanently damaging his own brand,” said Sally Hogshead, a branding specialist. “There’s a shame factor with being associated with the Trump brand for a larger percentage of the population than before.”

Trump Sparks a Crisis for His Empire Before Returning to It - Bloomberg

 

[shdmn]

10 hours ago, smylee52 said:

The major risk to Trump is if they confiscate his passport .  Over 70 countries do not have an extradition agreement with USA .  If the Biden administration doesn't want to deal with a prolonged prosecution they can just look the other way as Trump hops on a private jet to a welcoming haven . He will have to grease the wheels with millions in donations to those in charge but that is what the Bank of Cyprus can facilitate discreetly .

 

My vote would be UAE and Dubai specifically as he has a golf course there surrounded by the lavish lifestyle he is used to . He will have to change his dishonest ways because in Dubai you go to jail if you default on payments . Personally I would like to see  him spend the rest of his life in jail but that naively assumes the world is fair .

I don't think Cheney can leave the country because he is wanted for war crimes.  So hopefully the same happens with bunker boy.

Edited January 13, 2021 by shdmn

[Salerno]

54 minutes ago, shdmn said:

I don't think Cheney can leave the country because he is wanted for war crimes.

 

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The meme on social media said that Bush and Cheney are "unable to visit Europe due to outstanding warrants." The claim that there are "outstanding warrants" is flat wrong. And while it’s theoretically possible for a national court to issue an arrest warrant against either man, as was done with Pinochet, there is no sign of that happening. We rate the claim False.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jul/17/facebook-posts/are-george-w-bush-dick-cheney-unable-visit-europe-/

[Scott]

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[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, Opl said:

 

+ Trump's name,  once a brand is tarnished by his failures to get re-elected and to reverse, by his machination, the results of the elections.. 

"“As he’s walking out of the palace gates he’s torching the kingdom, but in doing so he’s permanently damaging his own brand,” said Sally Hogshead, a branding specialist. “There’s a shame factor with being associated with the Trump brand for a larger percentage of the population than before.”

Trump Sparks a Crisis for His Empire Before Returning to It - Bloomberg

 

Corporate donors are also turning on those 147 Republicans who voted with Trump in Congress, the flow of political donations has dried up. Their seditious conduct is being rewarded as well.

Meantime, New York City has pulled the plug.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-14/nyc-pga-businesses-cut-ties-with-donald-trump/13056084

Edited January 13, 2021 by Lacessit

[simple1]

10 hours ago, candide said:

However......

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-dropped-biggest-lender-deutsche-093545406.html

 

I know, but one would expect there will be financial institutions willing to do business with trump and Co e.g. banks utilised by Russian oligarchs.  I would not be surprised if Deutsche Bank forgave trump debts to minimise  exposure to investigation, as you know fines for large multinational banks for malfeasance can run into billions of dollars.

[Credo]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

I know, but one would expect there will be financial institutions willing to do business with trump and Co e.g. banks utilised by Russian oligarchs.  I would not be surprised if Deutsche Bank forgave trump debts to minimise  exposure to investigation, as you know fines for large multinational banks for malfeasance can run into billions of dollars.

It's important to know that it isn't really Deutsche Bank directly funding Trump.  It is the private wealth division of the bank and nobody knows what or who is behind that money.   He actually sued Deutsche Bank some years back.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump

 

 

[simple1]

3 hours ago, Credo said:

It's important to know that it isn't really Deutsche Bank directly funding Trump.  It is the private wealth division of the bank and nobody knows what or who is behind that money.   He actually sued Deutsche Bank some years back.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trump

 

 

 

Not so long ago the senior executive at Deutsche Bank managing trump's account resigned, be interesting to see what dirty laundry will be uncovered. Deutsche Bank previously received Euro 13.5 billion fine for transferring $200 billion of 'suspicious' Russian funds; I assume alternate words for money laundering.

 

https://www.internationalinvestment.net/news/4021650/deutsche-bank-fined-eur-tardy-flagging-suspicious-transfers#:~:text=Deutsche Bank fined €13.5m for tardy flagging of suspicious transfers,-Christopher Copper-Ind&text=Deutsche Bank has been issued,bank's alleged money laundering activities.

 

 

Yes trump countersued deutsche Bank for more than one billion dollars when they called in his debt for a Chicago project, that's when the bank decided to wave over $200 million debt. 

Edited January 14, 2021 by simple1

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5 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

I know, but one would expect there will be financial institutions willing to do business with trump and Co e.g. banks utilised by Russian oligarchs.  I would not be surprised if Deutsche Bank forgave trump debts to minimise  exposure to investigation, as you know fines for large multinational banks for malfeasance can run into billions of dollars.

I don't see how forgiving Trump his debts would forestall an investigation.

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't see how forgiving Trump his debts would forestall an investigation.

 

We will see if forensic investigators will be able to locate relevant data.

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