Soon you can order this thing from lazada... buy 1, take another for free. 

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

"We are asking for information directly from Sinovac, so we are waiting for their response to get all the facts"  

 

   

"tell us about your vaccine"

"oh, it is very great ! "

"OK,  thank you for the facts "

The 50% number is from front line medical workers and might not be so bad. The data in reduction in hospitalisations and preventing severe infections is much more impressive. I don't much care to get asymptomatic disease.....but as a vulnerable, I don't want severe disease or the costs of hospitalisation.

14 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Says in the daily mail today it's only 50% effective, the worst of the lot by a long way

Well if yo0u have 1.5 BILLION people the loss of a few million will not be noticed...lol

15 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Says in the daily mail today it's only 50% effective, the worst of the lot by a long way

50% effective in preventing very mild symptoms, 100% effective in preventing viral pneumonia, which was also written in Brazilian report but western media decided to remove from articles. The reason why Turkish and Brazilian results vary so much (with Turkish research marking it as around 90% effective) is that Turkish were only listing those with moderate to severe symptoms, but mild symptoms were not included. Brazil included all.

No way i am taking this Chinese rubbish

14 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

After taking the vaccine nobody got seriously ill or died.

That's as impressive as the other three.

It would also tick boxes that some of the others don't.

 

Most of the people using Sinovac are in China. China has not released all the information on this vaccine. Honestly, do you think they are being open on the adverse reactions?

Who knows if it even works?

 

I will wait for Moderna or  Pfizer BioNtech thank you. Maybe Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) one dose product if it is available next month. 

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

That saying is applicable to viruses and bacteria also.

 

Not finishing a course of anti biotics strengthens the diseases resistance to them.

 

Rolling out vaccines of unproven effectiveness will surely cause the virus to mutate and strengthen.

 

By rushing things it could turn out that the result will be making the situation worse rather than better.

 

Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old.

A Bangkok Newspaper this Morning stated that the Sinovac Vaccine was procured on the suggestion of the WHO.

Hmmm !!!!!  Interesting

1 hour ago, Bangyai said:

Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old.

 

new and newer.     keep the lockdowns.     censor those who have opposing views.  label them all

as crazy.       hmmmmmm     velly interesting 

10 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

61 million vaccines have been ordered at astrozennica, these are much better.

And much more side effects

The Sinovac is also the most expensive one out there.

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

"We are asking for information directly from Sinovac, so we are waiting for their response to get all the facts,"

Why wait? I know already how unbiased this response towards their product will be...

2 hours ago, Bangyai said:

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

That saying is applicable to viruses and bacteria also.

 

Not finishing a course of anti biotics strengthens the diseases resistance to them.

 

Rolling out vaccines of unproven effectiveness will surely cause the virus to mutate and strengthen.

 

By rushing things it could turn out that the result will be making the situation worse rather than better.

 

Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old.

That is worrisome. A vaccine with very low efficacy, made from the SARS-2 virus itself like Sinovac's, could more easily pass on mutated strains to others.

 

Evidence. Researchers say that multiple simultanious mutations, like the UK strain, likely arise from failed treatments with convalescent plasma or drugs like Remdesivir.

 

15 hours ago, kickstart said:

The BBC has been on this all day ,this Chinese vaccsin is only  50%  effective ,which you could say is about right ,as we have been told vaccines normal take years to research ,test and then produce ,

All these  vaccines have been researched, tested ? and produced in a matter of a few months, they were bound to be a few problems ,lets wait and see when all the other vaccines  are used on mass over the next few months . 

 

Jan. 7, 2021

htpps://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/business/china-coronavirus-vaccine-sinovac.html

"It is unclear whether Sinovac will even be used throughout Brazil. ... Its (State of Sao Paulo) the only state in the country to buy the Sinovac vaccine."

Not a 'ringing' endorsement.

No impact because the deal is already done - brown envelopes already exchanged.

Vaccine price probably marked up 1000% for donations to the mia-noi fund.

8 hours ago, Spilornis said:

As an aside the polio vaccines don't prevent polio they just limit the impact and our body fights off the germ with its normal immune system.

Isn't that how all vaccines work?

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

13 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

61 million vaccines have been ordered at astrozennica, these are much better.

And much more side effects

What side effects does it cause that the others don't?

just pray, same efficacy as this junk.

8 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

If they paid me 100,000 b ++, I would not take this Chinese vaccine.

No way no how.

But they are half the price as a good one and everyone likes a bargain, no?

If the Chinese vaccine only has a 50% efficacy, then should we all want two double-shots? 
You’ve seen how their virus works—now trust their vaccine?

1 hour ago, chang1 said:

What side effects does it cause that the others don't?

Neurological and psychological side effects. Sputnik-V has not such problems

18 hours ago, uncleP said:

I went to the hospital today for my prostrate issue

I wouldn't  take that lying down if I were you......

1 hour ago, chang1 said:

Isn't that how all vaccines work?

some vaccines... admittedly few..... provide sterilizing immunity

I was just trying to make the point that even those considered the most successful in eradicating a disease eg polio do not provide sterilizing immunity

 

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-few-vaccines-prevent-infection-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-152204

1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

I wouldn't  take that lying down if I were you......

when I said my appointment was with Dr Finger Upthebum to the 9 waiting nurses only one of them got the giggles. : D

just do a WAI...same outcome.