Lights out: Brexit shuts off market for English cheese truckles

[candide]

14 minutes ago, vogie said:

Thanks for the link Candide, it may take a couple of years to read all that so I cannot guarentee a speedy response.????????????

That's why it requires six months to implement it! ????

[david555]

???????????????? with their pants on trousers ...a brexiteers victory

Edited February 3, 2021 by david555

[tebee]

4 hours ago, transam said:

I think you have got that the wrong way round chum, since we left the EU, we have all seen the real EU in action, that sort of club just isn't our scene.......????

 

 

I think you will find that all counties, not just the EU will want you to adhere to certain standards if you want to import foodstuffs into them. not only that they will want you to provide the paperwork to prove that you have adhered to those standards.

 

The problem we have now is the clinically clean Brexit we have that was demanded by the Brexiters.

 

We could just have agreed to continue to accept EU food standards  and EU oversight of those, but that wasn't good enough for the dogma of Brexit ideological  purity. Instead, we insisted  we wanted to set up our own food standards, overseen by own agency so that we could deviate from EU standards if we desired.

 

Well guess what, when you tell people your food might not be to the same standards as their own, they won't let you sell it there unless you can prove with certification that it is to their standard.

 

Another spectacular Brexit own goal.

 

Incidentally we are not reciprocating on this yet because until June there are no checks on food stuffs or anything else coming from the EU. It might be our brexit, but we didn't bother recruiting and training  the 50,000 new customs officers and agents that are needed to preform the requisite checks - nor do we have the agencies set up yet to provide the standards.

 

The EU, on the other hand did have everything ready.          

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More blaming the news bringer and incidentally factually incorrect.

 

Reuters publish the news as it is, you’ll perhaps not have a problem with the following:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-unemployment-idUKKCN1Q80Y0

Is your link news or a history lesson?

[bkk_mike]

9 hours ago, Proboscis said:

The agreement that the UK made with the EU.

 

What this and other conditionality in the agreement mean is that only large consignments of the same stuff (uniform consignments) can be practically sent. So you can send a container of cheeses to one customer but not one cheese to 1,000 customers, as before.

 

The outcome is that only large producers will be able to export. All those specialised companies or small companies, such as those manufacturing specialised engineering parts, will have a lot of trouble and cost.

Engineering parts are less of an issue - because they're not animal products, so don't need a veterinary certificate.

They still have more paperwork, but it's one less piece than cheese or meat or fish...

[bkk_mike]

14 hours ago, transam said:

No, another EU hurdle, or did you miss that fact.....

 

The EU makes the UK do the same as every other country in the world that isn't in the EU.

Is the EU creating hurdles for the UK?

Or the UK making hurdles for the UK. - After all it's England (and Wales) that voted for this <deleted>.

 

[tebee]

8 hours ago, david555 said:

???????????????? with their pants on trousers ...a brexiteers victory

 

 

Top tip 

 

GOVERNMENTS: Avoid embarrassing surprises later by attempting to get what you want into the text of treaties before agreeing and ratifying them.

[kingdong]

8 hours ago, tebee said:

 

 

The EU, on the other hand did have everything ready.          

Pity they didn,t have everything ready when it came to ordering the vaccine.

[david555]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

Pity they didn,t have everything ready when it came to ordering the vaccine.

Right ! Get the divertion up again ????

.....but that does'nt change nothing on YOUR emberassing moment .....

Boris did not wanted extension ; but now begging for one ????....4 years preparing and still no border ready ....even not in Kent ......

 

I would wish the E.U.refused ....

 

Untill 2023 ?..,for heaven's sake  dont this Boris Gov.  really have no shame anymore ????

Edited February 4, 2021 by david555

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, david555 said:

Right ! Get the divertion up again ????

.....but that does'nt change nothing on YOUR emberassing moment .....

Boris did not wanted extension ; but now begging for one ????....4 years preparing and still no border ready ....even not in Kent ......

 

I would wish the E.U.refused ....

 

Untill 2023 ?..,for heaven's sake  dont they have really no shame anymore ????

So the uk isnt free yet as some here pretend.

[david555]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

So the uk isnt free yet as some here pretend.

"The Freedum shuffle  .....".

 

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

So the uk isnt free yet as some here pretend.

"Taking control again of our borders & waters , making our own laws again ....

" Out means out "( dixit PM. T.MAY )

????????????

[transam]

12 hours ago, david555 said:

Your fingers must be hitching now .....????

What does that mean....?  ????

[transam]

10 hours ago, tebee said:

 

 

I think you will find that all counties, not just the EU will want you to adhere to certain standards if you want to import foodstuffs into them. not only that they will want you to provide the paperwork to prove that you have adhered to those standards.

 

The problem we have now is the clinically clean Brexit we have that was demanded by the Brexiters.

 

We could just have agreed to continue to accept EU food standards  and EU oversight of those, but that wasn't good enough for the dogma of Brexit ideological  purity. Instead, we insisted  we wanted to set up our own food standards, overseen by own agency so that we could deviate from EU standards if we desired.

 

Well guess what, when you tell people your food might not be to the same standards as their own, they won't let you sell it there unless you can prove with certification that it is to their standard.

 

Another spectacular Brexit own goal.

 

Incidentally we are not reciprocating on this yet because until June there are no checks on food stuffs or anything else coming from the EU. It might be our brexit, but we didn't bother recruiting and training  the 50,000 new customs officers and agents that are needed to preform the requisite checks - nor do we have the agencies set up yet to provide the standards.

 

The EU, on the other hand did have everything ready.          

Including a Corvid vaccine......????

[david555]

1 minute ago, transam said:

What does that mean....?  ????

My answer on your warning to some posting....????

[transam]

7 hours ago, bkk_mike said:

 

The EU makes the UK do the same as every other country in the world that isn't in the EU.

Is the EU creating hurdles for the UK?

Or the UK making hurdles for the UK. - After all it's England (and Wales) that voted for this <deleted>.

 

No it wasn't, it was the United Kingdom, all for one, one for all......????

[transam]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

My answer on your warning to some posting....????

Please try again, I do not understand Dave.....

[david555]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Please try again, I do not understand Dave.....

I understand you...I.Q has limits ...????

[transam]

Just now, david555 said:

I understand you...I.Q has limits ...????

If you cannot write a post that I can understand, then please don't bother.

I know you are learning English, I am trying to help you write correctly, Dave................

[JCauto]

On 2/2/2021 at 6:41 PM, ukrules said:

 

If they're not then they soon will be plus a lot more besides.

 

Two can play at this game.

 

Target all major imports from the EU to the UK and ramp up the paperwork requirements and certification.

 

Can you still buy French cheeses in the UK?

 

 

Well, that'll teach 'em! Up the French! 

You really don't understand, do you? Let's add up the UK cheese market and the EU cheese market and determine who will win this little spat, shall we?

[transam]

4 minutes ago, JCauto said:

 

Well, that'll teach 'em! Up the French! 

You really don't understand, do you? Let's add up the UK cheese market and the EU cheese market and determine who will win this little spat, shall we?

Does the EU produce Cheshire Cheese.....?  ????

[Scott]

A lot of trolling.  If you have nothing to say about the topic, please go elsewhere.   Continued off-topic trolling will earn suspensions.  

 

[tebee]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Does the EU produce Cheshire Cheese.....?  ????

Well of course they can now, it no longer has the EU designated protection for origin.

[stevenl]

Glad to see brexit also has positives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55894608

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, transam said:

Does the EU produce Cheshire Cheese.....?  ????

Probably not, but it’s no longer protected by EU Origin Regulations so there is nothing now stopping anyone producing it.

 

 

 

 

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Well, that'll teach 'em! Up the French! 

You really don't understand, do you? Let's add up the UK cheese market and the EU cheese market and determine who will win this little spat, shall we?

 

UK wins - we can make our own camem, Bert.

[Letseng]

On 2/2/2021 at 12:41 PM, ukrules said:

 

If they're not then they soon will be plus a lot more besides.

 

Two can play at this game.

 

Target all major imports from the EU to the UK and ramp up the paperwork requirements and certification.

 

Can you still buy French cheeses in the UK?

 

Rules work both ways. 

[elliss]

On 2/2/2021 at 8:47 PM, onebir said:

 

Hopefully this'll get resolved without more businesses going bust &/ acrimonious negotiations etc.

 

     The shape of things to come .

    More UK , business going down the pan.

   This is just the beginning . 

  UK , begging  for for extension /  please ..

  On your bike,  bulldog ....

 

[Loiner]

On 2/3/2021 at 3:01 PM, tebee said:

 

The problem we have now is the clinically clean Brexit we have that was demanded by the Brexiters.

But we didn’t get the clinically clean Brexit. We got a ‘deal’ in which there are still the meddlesome fingers of the EU and its’ red tape. It is the EU belligerence and application of that deal that is causing the current issues for EU imports. 

From midnight 31st December it was the EU who changed their implementation of their rules, especially for produce like cheese which competes with their own French and Dutch industries. What did we change in Cheddar on New Years Day? Nothing of course, exactly the same cheese as the day before, but the EU protectionism kicked in with vindictive pleasure. 

Never mind, we have plenty of new trade deals with new international markets to export to. 

[stevenl]

44 minutes ago, Loiner said:

But we didn’t get the clinically clean Brexit. We got a ‘deal’ in which there are still the meddlesome fingers of the EU and its’ red tape. It is the EU belligerence and application of that deal that is causing the current issues for EU imports. 

From midnight 31st December it was the EU who changed their implementation of their rules, especially for produce like cheese which competes with their own French and Dutch industries. What did we change in Cheddar on New Years Day? Nothing of course, exactly the same cheese as the day before, but the EU protectionism kicked in with vindictive pleasure. 

Never mind, we have plenty of new trade deals with new international markets to export to. 

Not true, EU didn't change anything. The same rules apply as before, with a distinction in rules between countries in the free trade zone and countries outside of it.

Maybe the position of the UK has changed?