2 hours ago, fxe1200 said:

Don't you know it?? It puts American and journalists from all over the world at risk, as they cannot reveal the the truth about criminal acts of governments, without being haunted and incarcerated. There goes the right of information, free speech and publishing.

Yes let this be a lesson to others who try to tell the truth about the US of Lies and its Dept of Filthy Tricks, the CIA.  As somebody else stated earlier, he should have been awarded the Nobel Peace prize but sadly that seems to be reserved for mass murderers like Kissenger and Aung san Suu Kyi.  Sheesh what a hypocritical world we live in!  Let him go!

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

The greatest danger to the American folk and the world is the America administration,

not Assange

 

SSsssshhhh!!   Everybody knows it but obviously you cant say it or you get locked up.  What do you think this is ...a democracy??

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

What did he have to defend. He was never charged. He even asked the prosecutor for permission to leave sweden.

 

And as it turns out he was correct when he refused to go back to be questioned for fear the US would extradite him.

 

Which the US lied about.

1. The fact that Swedish prosecutors had not charged him is irrelevant to his running into hiding to avoid extradition to Sweden.

 

2. Under the extradition treaty between Sweden and the UK, Assange would have remained under UK jurisdiction even while in Sweden, the US could not have extradited him without the UK courts approval, and as we have seen the UK courts have demonstrated they may rule in his favor.

 

3. The US did not seek to extradite Assange at the time of his hiding from Swedish prosecutors, that they have since done so is not evidence of the US lying about intending to do so at the time when Assange was in self inflicted ‘seclusion’.

28 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Disappointing. He's been persecuted and locked up long enough for crimes he didn't even commit. Time to let him return home!

 

If he had not jumped bail and gone into hiding, he would almost certainly be home by now.

 

As it is he decided to pish-away the prime of his life hiding in a cupboard.

 

Why he did do is a mystery, but I’m coming to the conclusion it was all a publicity stunt that went wrong.

 

I’m not without sympathy though, it’s his cat I feel sorry for, I hope it’s got over the ordeal and is living a happy life.

 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. The fact that Swedish prosecutors had not charged him is irrelevant to his running into hiding to avoid extradition to Sweden.

 

2. Under the extradition treaty between Sweden and the UK, Assange would have remained under UK jurisdiction even while in Sweden, the US could not have extradited him without the UK courts approval, and as we have seen the UK courts have demonstrated they may rule in his favor.

 

3. The US did not seek to extradite Assange at the time of his hiding from Swedish prosecutors, that they have since done so is not evidence of the US lying about intending to do so at the time when Assange was in self inflicted ‘seclusion’.

 

The problem is, of course, that the Swedish charges brought against him were frivolous. Going "into hiding", as you choose to call it (in actual fact, seeking refuge at an embassy) was a justifiable act of self defense.

8 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

The problem is, of course, that the Swedish charges brought against him were frivolous. Going "into hiding", as you choose to call it (in actual fact, seeking refuge at an embassy) was a justifiable act of self defense.

If, as you assert, the charges where ‘frivolous’ why then the need for this poor excuse for a man, with access to defense from some of the UK’s leading legal minds, to go into hiding. Other than that he’s a poor excuse for a man.

 

Every working day, people facing the reality that they are going to be convicted and imprisoned, ‘man up’ and turn up

to face justice in the courts.

 

Assange, was released on bail, he signed the bail order and then ran and hid.

 

And you insist he forfeited the bail somebody stood for him to avoid ‘frivolous’ charges (which were actually only an order to face, in person, prosecutor’s questions).

 

 

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

I doubt that. It wasnt that long ago he was charged. He is being held in custody now so this time he is in jail will be taken off his jail time on sentence.

 

I doubt a sentence will be less than a couple of years. More like 20.

Manning is out.

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

Disappointing. He's been persecuted and locked up long enough for crimes he didn't even commit. Time to let him return home!

 

He locked himself up. Nobody else to blame.

12 hours ago, colinneil said:

No, he deserves locking up, best place for him, he spent years avoiding facing up to what he did, let him rot in jail.

Judging by the photo which accompanies the OP he is pretty rotten already!

 

Since the most comprehensive defence against extradition seems to be a combination of "poor Julian, hasn't he suffered enough" and "but Julian is special" , and given that he very deliberately jumped bail when facing extradition ( to Sweden, not the USA) I should imagine that he will remain in jail until all the arguments are over. Remember that he very publicly stuck two fingers up at the English legal system, for a considerable time, when it had actually treated him completely fairly ( by jumping bail). They will be unlikely to be in a rush to help him now.

 

Ironically, if he had gone to Sweden to answer questions concerning sexual assault he would probably be a free man, quite possibly would have not been put on trial, of found not guilty. The Swedes wouldn't have extradited him, even if the USA had asked. But no, <deleted> me (which again ironically got him into trouble in the first place!) he had to be special!

Assange lost his claim to being a journalist when he timed the release of the hacked emails from the Democratic Party to inflict maximum damage on Hilary Clinton. Not the way a genuine journalist should operate. As we know now, he was cooperating with Roger Stone

Assange, Avowed Foe of Clinton, Timed Email Release for Democratic Convention

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/assange-timed-wikileaks-release-of-democratic-emails-to-harm-hillary-clinton.html

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Assange lost his claim to being a journalist when he timed the release of the hacked emails from the Democratic Party to inflict maximum damage on Hilary Clinton. Not the way a genuine journalist should operate. As we know now, he was cooperating with Roger Stone

Assange, Avowed Foe of Clinton, Timed Email Release for Democratic Convention

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/assange-timed-wikileaks-release-of-democratic-emails-to-harm-hillary-clinton.html

Not just Stone.

 

There is the outstanding matter of the part Farage played in that ‘game’. 

 

On the upside side for Assange, he has some ‘chips’ to put in play.

Assange should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He has been persecuted enough. Respect the British Court decison and #FreeAssange  Bring him back to Australia

2 minutes ago, OffshoreMig said:

Assange should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He has been persecuted enough. Respect the British Court decison and #FreeAssange  Bring him back to Australia

It was a ‘British Court Decision’ to release Assange on bail.

 

Not much ‘respect the British Court decision’ from Assange in that was there?!

Assange, perhaps he can bring unity to the USA? See both Left and Right screaming for blood as Assange did the unpardonable...he revealed the truth. Who of us truly wants to see the reality, as opposed to our comfortable delusion, reflected in the mirror?

what trump did on 6th january is more serious, because countries like china and russia realised the usa aren't the democracy beacom they claim to be, i.e. can be attacked from the inside

11 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Manning is out.

Manning got a little help getting out.

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. The fact that Swedish prosecutors had not charged him is irrelevant to his running into hiding to avoid extradition to Sweden.

 

2. Under the extradition treaty between Sweden and the UK, Assange would have remained under UK jurisdiction even while in Sweden, the US could not have extradited him without the UK courts approval, and as we have seen the UK courts have demonstrated they may rule in his favor.

 

3. The US did not seek to extradite Assange at the time of his hiding from Swedish prosecutors, that they have since done so is not evidence of the US lying about intending to do so at the time when Assange was in self inflicted ‘seclusion’.

He legally claimed asylum.

Assange sought assurances from the US that they would not try to extradite him from sweden. They refused.

 

16 minutes ago, Sujo said:

He legally claimed asylum.

Assange sought assurances from the US that they would not try to extradite him from sweden. They refused.

 

He jumped bail.

While his narcissism is a reality it does not entitle him to personL assurances from the US Government.

16 hours ago, Sujo said:

Huh? He was avoiding extradition to sweden for something he has never been charged with.

Seriously, wasn't it an accusation of rape, cuz he didn't wear a condom?

54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He jumped bail.

While his narcissism is a reality it does not entitle him to personL assurances from the US Government.

Which he has already paid the penalty.

 

it does entitle him to decide what he wants to do. He does not have to answer questions and he legally had asylum.

 

Perhaps sweden should move out of the 19th century and and use skype or zoom to vid chat with him. Seems they are unable to ask him questions unless he is actually in sweden.

 

i make no comment on him personally.

35 minutes ago, Peabody said:

Seriously, wasn't it an accusation of rape, cuz he didn't wear a condom?

An accusation, is not a charge. He was never charged with anything in sweden.

 

The extradition was for questioning. Sweden must be the only country that doesnt have internet for such things. In any event he cannot be compelled to answer.

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The thread is about Julian Assange, not Donald Trump or the coronavirus pandemic.