Thailand reports 789 new COVID-19 cases, 1 more death

[ThailandRyan]

19 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Update on the government's plans to make available more various kinds of "hospital" beds in Bangkok in the coming weeks to handle a looming surge in COVID cases.

 

 

"Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has instructed the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) to adopt a three-step plan, including the expansion of city hospital capacity and the setting up of a field hospital modelled after the one in Samut Sakhon, to brace for the anticipated surge in COVID-19 cases in the coming weeks.

 

The first step calls for expansion of the capacity of the BMA’s hospitals and assembly of field type hospital extensions, to accommodate more than 5,500 patients, up from the current 1,218.

 

If infections increase, the second step calls for non-severe cases to be quarantined and treated in hotels, to be arranged by the BMA.

 

In the third step, the City Hall must set up a field hospital, modelled on the one in Samut Sakhon, using the facilities at Bangkok Arena, the Thai-Japanese sports stadium and the Bang Khun Thian hospital.

 

(more)

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bma-and-military-told-prepare-facilities-to-handle-surge-in-covid-19-infections/

 

 

A wonderful 14 days spent in a barracks like atmosphere in close proximity to all of your neighbors.  Looks like no Air conditioning and ...well at least its a cot and 3 square meals a day, much like prison. Wonder what my PCH Insurance will be charged for a stay there.

Edited April 10, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[sambum]

34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The TH MoPH does their own updates and charts of such things each day, showing how Thailand fares both in the world rankings and also in the Asia regional ones... This below is their latest Asia countries comparisons.

 

The chart below is ranked by countries' numbers of reported cases.

 

 

 

Which shows exactly the same figures for Thailand as I got from Worldometer - the question was about Thailand's ranking - nobody else's, but thanks for the info!

 

[bermondburi]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I had the links but they are now gone from my activity history.  There was another poster who found them as he had them saved offline and posted them this past February, but now he is no longer posting.

This is a chart showing excess deaths in Thailand compared to the previous five years. It covers the 12 months up to 28th February 2021. Clearly shows above average mortality rate compared to previous years, and when the rate was highest coincided with C19 wave. 

 

When you consider how many people die in an average year, it's obvious there were 10s of thousands more deaths than  usual in 2020/21. 

 

Strange that in the middle of a global pandemic Thailand should have more deaths than in previous years. More than 90 methinks.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores?time=earliest..2021-01-31&country=~THA

 

 

[overherebc]

42 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

Not strange at all - they find it funny that such a suggestion could be taken seriously by Immigration, as can be illustrated from this pic from OUTSIDE Koh Samui Immigration Office in Apr 2020.

 

True but I think this latest set of infections and what appears to be a faster spread is a more serious situation.

[MrJ2U]

789 reported.

 

So many people who aren't going to get tested because they've run out or it's too expensive.

 

The real numbers must be staggering!

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

7 hours ago, overherebc said:

Opportune time to put 90 day reporting on the back burner.

 

 

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

Strange that 3 find it funny. 

Isn't it better that people shouldn't have to gather in one place, an Imm' office that is, and be exposed to the virus or expose others to it if they have it and don't know.

Well, by that reckoning let's cancel all activities at Immigration and just have a general amnesty until it's all over.

 

But what are they going to do all day? ????

 

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Bkktodd said:

Anywhere else in the world you self isolate and monitor health.  Only if in decline you get treatment

 

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

But we are not 'anywhere else in the world', we are here and this is the way they they do it.

 

During the heavy case load period down south, not all infected persons went into hospital. They were accommodated in isolation units and were only admitted to hospital if their symptoms warranted it.

 

The rest of the world quickly learnt that self isolating mild cases instead of quarantining them in hospital  would save hospitals from being overwhelmed. 

[Moonlover]

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

But we are not 'anywhere else in the world', we are here and this is the way they they do it.

 

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

 

The rest of the world quickly learnt that self isolating mild cases instead of quarantining them in hospital  would save hospitals from being overwhelmed. 

And Thailand learned that you can place mild cases in isolation units and also prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. They have the added advantage of isolating infected patients from the overwise healthy community. A win-win IMO.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Daily update on the BMA's outreach COVID testing in the Thong Lo area of BKK.  Latest results for April 3-9:

 

14.2% positive rate, 554 positive results, 3357 negative results, and 2701 results pending.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/prbangkok/posts/3390059497760314

 

[Sheryl]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Daily update on the BMA's outreach COVID testing in the Thong Lo area of BKK.  Latest results for April 3-9:

 

14.2% positive rate, 554 positive results, 3357 negative results, and 2701 results pending.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/prbangkok/posts/3390059497760314

 

 

The general yardstick is that testing needs to increase if the positivity rate is over 5%.

 

The challenge in this situation will be who/where to test as the risk group is based not on geographical residence but on patronizing night spots.

 

 

[LosLobo]

2 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

And Thailand learned that you can place mild cases in isolation units and also prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. They have the added advantage of isolating infected patients from the overwise healthy community. A win-win IMO.

Win-Win? 

 

So why are hospitals here now overwhelmed and are turning away people for testing?

 

Why is the government setting up field hospitals?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, Moonlover said:

 

And Thailand learned that you can place mild cases in isolation units and also prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. They have the added advantage of isolating infected patients from the overwise healthy community. A win-win IMO.

 

A lot of the additional so-called "hospital" beds that the government is marshaling really are not hospital beds in the traditional sense... They're more like barracks or field hospitals that are intended for the positive COVID cases that don't have any or noteworthy symptoms. Along with the forthcoming "hospitel" beds, being hotel rooms reserved now for COVID positive folks.

 

I've often wondered why they have that policy for asymptomatic COVID positive folks, but then I think back to the early days when returning Thais from abroad with positive tests were asked to quarantine at home, and then were widely see out partying and socializing. And that, as they say, was the end of that.

 

So basically, AFAICT, it's the government's way of pretty well ensuring that COVID positive folks aren't exposing their friends, family members and otherwise spreading the virus until they're no longer contagious.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

51 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

A wonderful 14 days spent in a barracks like atmosphere in close proximity to all of your neighbors.  Looks like no Air conditioning and ...well at least its a cot and 3 square meals a day, much like prison. Wonder what my PCH Insurance will be charged for a stay there.

 

I was thinking the past couple days, what a person would do if they ended up being assigned to one of those field hospital places. I mean, you (likely vastly Thais vs farangs) are likely to be there for 2 weeks or so. How would you be spending your time day after day?

 

Bangkok at least has a larger pool of traditional hospital beds to draw on before they get to actually populating the field hospitals. But it sounds like Chiang Mai with much fewer traditional beds is already well into the real field hospital mode, though I haven't yet seen any photos of their facility actually in use.

 

"According to the provincial health office, 186 new cases were recorded today (Saturday), raising the total to 450 in just 48 hours. The field hospital can currently only accommodate 240 patients, split between male and female.

 

Workers are racing against time to increase the number of beds to 500, and then 1,000, if there are more infections."

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Bangkok vaccinations update for Saturday... Not going to get there at this pace... Total new vaccinations for the day in red at the top, and first and second shot subtotals below. Cumulative totals in blue. Likely part of a general Song Kran slowdown.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/prbangkok/posts/3389965724436358

 

They also have a chart of the priority groups that they're currently aiming their relatively few available vaccines at. Not yet in the general public mode.

 

As listed below, Medical staff, senior citizens over 60, those in contact with patients, those with chronic diseases, entertainment venue staff/high-risk folks. The last box is those today and cumulatively who've received their second doses.

 

 

"The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has administered more than 100,000 COVID-19 vaccine doses in Bangkok since the inoculation program launched 6 weeks ago.

 

However, this figure still represents less than 1% of the capital’s population, estimated at 10,722,815 residents. To achieve herd immunity, around 70% of the population must have antibodies against COVID-19.

 

So far, priority five groups that were vaccinated include public health staff and volunteers, seniors aged over 60, workers in close contact with COVID-19 patients, people with chronic diseases, and people living in high-risk zones."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157940756852050

 

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

[Bkk Brian]

Chaing Mai struggling to cope, run out of ambulances to take positive tested patients to hospitals and field hospitals, patients taking public transport instead along with their supplies for 2 weeks, donations being asked for, what a complete mess.

 

 

 Chiang Mai is running short of ambulances, to bring those with COVID-19 to the field hospital

The provincial health office is now appealing to the public for donations of bottled drinking water, garbage bins and bags, sanitation paper, beds and mattress for use in the field hospital.

It is reported that several infected patients were seen arriving at the field hospital in their own cars, while others arrived on public transport, carrying luggage containing personal effects for use during their 14-day quarantine.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-surge-in-chiang-mai-prompts-expansion-of-field-hospital-and-appeal-for-donations-of-consumables/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

 

[Moonlover]

30 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Win-Win? 

 

So why are hospitals here now overwhelmed and are turning away people for testing?

 

Why is the government setting up field hospitals?

1. The hospitals are not overwhelmed. Show me where it says otherwise.

 

2. The term 'field hospitals' is a misnomer. They are the isolation units that I refer to.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Chiang Rai Governor Orders Quarantine for Visitors from Red Zones

 

Chiang Rai Governor Prajon Prachsakul, has ordered that all visitors to the province are required to undergo 14-day quarantine. The order comes as new covid-19 cases have jumped to 12, bringing the total number of cases since the outbreak to 77.

 

Since November 28, 2020 77 people in Chiang Rai have been infected with covid-19, 65 have completely recovered, 12 are in hospital and there has been zero deaths. Returning residents will also be required to undergo 14 day self quarantine.

 

(more)

 

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/chiangrai-news/chiang-rai-governor-orders-quarantine-for-visitors-from-red-zones/

 

Note: the article doesn't make fully clear whether the governor's directive applies to all visitors, or, only to visitors from so-called "red zone" areas such as Bangkok, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan, Nakhon Pathom and Nonthaburi.  The headline says one thing, the article text something else.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Limited free COVID testing in Phuket on April 11-13, if you had visited one of the designated risk locations:

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Chiang Rai Governor Orders Quarantine for Visitors from Red Zones

 

Chiang Rai Governor Prajon Prachsakul, has ordered that all visitors to the province are required to undergo 14-day quarantine. The order comes as new covid-19 cases have jumped to 12, bringing the total number of cases since the outbreak to 77.

 

Since November 28, 2020 77 people in Chiang Rai have been infected with covid-19, 65 have completely recovered, 12 are in hospital and there has been zero deaths. Returning residents will also be required to undergo 14 day self quarantine.

 

(more)

 

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-national-news/chiangrai-news/chiang-rai-governor-orders-quarantine-for-visitors-from-red-zones/

 

Note: the article doesn't make fully clear whether the governor's directive applies to all visitors, or, only to visitors from so-called "red zone" areas such as Bangkok, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan, Nakhon Pathom and Nonthaburi.

 

 

It makes it clear to me.

Chiang Rai Governor Orders Quarantine for Visitors from Red Zones

[LosLobo]

26 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

1. The hospitals are not overwhelmed. Show me where it says otherwise.

Try ringing Bumrungrad for a Covid test or a room.

 

TallGuyJohninBKK will vouch for this.

[holy cow cm]

3 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Having 4.5 Billion Baht in the Bank doesn't make him intelligent; the Man is a useless Idiot !

No.. But a family handed down to him business that thrived. 

[Captain Monday]

5 hours ago, Harry Fingerling said:

Yet Anutin will allow 10’s of thousands to pour into the provinces. One wonders what his M.O is?

No MO.They should have never allowed interprovincial travel for Songkran this year, this should have been announced well in advance. Sudden spike caught them off guard too late to avoid massive loss of "face".

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, bermondburi said:

 

Actually the data has just been updated and now covers the 5 year average up to 31st March 2021 rather than 28th Feb and we can see a sharp spike now occurring. This obviously only gets updated once a month so we will need to check back then to see how its progressing. 

 

"Shown is how the number of weekly or monthly deaths in 2020–2021 differs as a percentage from the average number of deaths in the same period over the years 2015–2019. This metric is called the P-score. The reported number of deaths might not count all deaths that occurred due to incomplete coverage and delays in death reporting." https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid For explanations on where they source data etc visit the link.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Daily update on the BMA's outreach COVID testing in the Thong Lo area of BKK.  Latest results for April 3-9:

 

14.2% positive rate, 554 positive results

So just this one round of testing at the Thong Lo area has produced the need for 554 beds be that in hospitals or field hospitals no wonder they are getting full

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

A pretty good EN language newscast with lots of CV news from NBT World / National News of Thailand. 25 minutes and leading off with details about the locations of the various temporary field hospital facilities being developed around the country. And info on the extent of Immigration detainees in BKK who've come down with COVID.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/videos/802100263740388/

 

One strange part at about the 6 minute, 40 second mark: the announcer voices over video of the Immigration detainees being returned to Immigration detention by bus amid assurances they're no longer contagious as confirmed by multiple tests. And in the same segment, the video shows workers in spacesuit type outfits spraying down all the detainees as they walk past with some kind of disinfectant and even spraying the pavement where they'd walked.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[simtemple]

11 hours ago, ib1b4 said:

 

There are 20,000 deaths on Thai roads per year and no one seems to notice them either.

As my Thai lawyer says: life is cheap in Thailand! 

[Jeffr2]

13 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

No I can see that, but if those that have recovered having gained immunity were allowed to be excused from restrictions it would be the same or better than being vaccinated.In fact those that have recovered should be allowed to return to normal.That's my point.At this stage I would have thought the clever bunnies would already have raised this issue and dealt with it not only here but globally.

You are aware even if you have recovered, you can get it again.  Especially the variants.  And, be asymptomatic and spread the virus.  Stunning you're not aware of this. 

 

Same is true with those who've had the jab.  You can still shed the virus.

[Henryford]

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Actually the data has just been updated and now covers the 5 year average up to 31st March 2021 rather than 28th Feb and we can see a sharp spike now occurring. This obviously only gets updated once a month so we will need to check back then to see how its progressing. 

 

"Shown is how the number of weekly or monthly deaths in 2020–2021 differs as a percentage from the average number of deaths in the same period over the years 2015–2019. This metric is called the P-score. The reported number of deaths might not count all deaths that occurred due to incomplete coverage and delays in death reporting." https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid For explanations on where they source data etc visit the link.

 

Yes 16% excess deaths is a big number @8,000, in one month ! For interest i added the UK data and now it is below 0%.