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Low costs of living in Bangkok!  Only if you wish to live like the Thai´s! Trying to maintain western living standards will easily cost you the same as in many European countries

Looks like a dick waving competition is about to commence.....

Digital nomad ie: a backpacker with a laptop posting rubbish on social media all day. That's not a job or a business.  I haven't met one one yet that actually makes money

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Why any digital nomad would stay in London or New York over Bangkok, is beyond me, given the geographical arbitrage. Probably something to do with networking, like your chances of meeting a mover and shaker are increased exponentially in these centres of excellence -face to face interactions aren't quite dead it seems. Also, the days of whipping around the world on a whim are dead, you need to be physically where it's happening; you get stuck in some ghetto, well, you're stuck.

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Bangkok pre pandemic was nearly always winning travel awards and for good reason. Prefect big city base with one of the world's best connected airport hubs. 

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Excellent news for those who can continue to capitalize on decades of specialized experience and work as (grey) digital nomads like myself. Able to pick and choose our work hours to maintain a useful cash flow and also at the same time keep the brain engaged and in top working condition.

 

It's a great opportunity that has come from the rise of the internet and laptop computers that many will take advantage of I'm sure. Go the nomads!

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Ah, the "Smart Visa". Much discussed, but how many have been issued altogether? Not many. How many have been issued specifically to digital nomads? Probably none whatsoever; they have been "coming soon" for years...

 

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I'm sure that the use of VPNs has skewed these results wildly. 

 

PS. It is illegal to work in Thailand on any visa except the difficult to obtain work permit. 

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3 hours ago, webfact said:

The study said that Bangkok is a "firm favourite for a post-pandemic influx of nomadic workers", which in part is due to its low cost of living and affordable internet.

If you can qualify to get in the country.

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Thailand has missed this opportunity for over a decade. Lets get real here. Allow digital nomads to stay in thailand and pay taxes on what they earn. Simples.

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40 minutes ago, chrisbangkok said:

Tax ?? 

Taxes can be quite low if you take all available deductions.
 

Oh. Are you asking about those who work without work permit? Well, they don't pay taxes in Thailand...

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

The study said that Bangkok is a "firm favourite for a post-pandemic influx of nomadic workers", which in part is due to its low cost of living and affordable internet.

Post-pandemic?

When did it finish?

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3 hours ago, Xonax said:

Low costs of living in Bangkok!  Only if you wish to live like the Thai´s!

Trying to maintain western living standards will easily cost you the same as in many European countries

Being from Vancouver and having been back and forth between there and Thailand, I can compare living costs and I did for many years before making Thailand our primary residence.  For 250,000 baht a month we live reasonably well with my Big Boy Toys, a wife and son and a first class 200 m2 condo.  When in Vancouver, where our condo is 150 m2 and in the center of the financial district, our monthly costs are easily, no very easily more than double for a similar quality of life. 

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2 hours ago, chrisbangkok said:

Tax ?? 

 

Yeah, I wonder how long it'll take them to decide they have to tap that revenue possibility as well now it's become such a big thing ...

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1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Digital nomad ie: a backpacker with a laptop posting rubbish on social media all day.

That's not a job or a business. 

I haven't met one one yet that actually makes money


Online teaching? Website design? (Mobile) app programming? Art design? Music production? Remote assistance? - If you are a digital creative with transferable skills, you can make some pretty decent coin on freelance websites.

 

I get a bit confused by this nomad thing, I don’t see how it’s possible for these mystery nomads to move about - for me, I have a drawing tablet, scanner,, multiple screens, monitor mounts, midi keyboards, speakers, decent chairs to sit in all day .. I do have a mate in Bali who does game soundtracks - hunched over a tiny keyboard and mixing desk, squinting at a laptop screen, rather him than me.

 

That excludes all the professional online workers, programmers, accountants, and Sysop who maybe working for a company in the west remotely.

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3 hours ago, chrisbangkok said:

Tax ?? 

If you are tax-planning, you can legally pay zero percent income tax...👍

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5 hours ago, Caldera said:

Ah, the "Smart Visa". Much discussed, but how many have been issued altogether? Not many. How many have been issued specifically to digital nomads? Probably none whatsoever; they have been "coming soon" for years...

 

An amazing 625 smart visas have been issued in the last 3 years. Sounds very successful to me. NOT

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/visa/thailand-and-bali-race-for-southeast-asias-1st-digital-nomad-visa

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4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Digital nomad ie: a backpacker with a laptop posting rubbish on social media all day.

That's not a job or a business. 

I haven't met one one yet that actually makes money

 

What you're saying is a bit of an exaggeration but, sadly, most digital nomads are just long-term tourists that are burning through their life savings while pretending to be making money as a digital nomad. 

 

The lifestyle is just as fake as anything on Instagram or YouTube.  I call them digital fauxmads. 

 

Yes, some do make money.  Some do quite well.  Of the several dozen successful ones that I know, most had a successful business back home and figured out how to take it online. 

 

Most digital fauxmads, quit their jobs (typically with less than 5 years total work experience) to become digital nomads and only do it for a few years before they run out of money and go back home. 

 

I don't think Thailand or any other country should encourage that kind of digital nomad.  They're basically long-term backpackers and the tourist visa is a more appropriate option.  

 

But for the people that actually have a business and are making money, sure, Thailand would benefit from attracting them and getting them to base their business from here. 

 

BTW, here's a quick test.  If you ask someone what they do and they tell you that they're a digital nomad, they're a fauxmad.  If they say that they're a software engineer that has clients back in the US or they own a small business that does X that they run online, that's probably a real digital nomad.  LOL. 

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Due to visa restrictions being a "digital nomad" is getting near impossible these days so how is Bangkok a hub of such things? The last time I got a METV they grilled me on why I was staying in Thailand for 6 months when I should be back home working. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I've been warned of getting too many tourist visas in the past (I go back home once  year for 2 months) and we hear frequent stories of people getting denied extensions for the "180 days" rules etc... etc... 

 

Unless you're prepared to buy the Elite Visa Thailand is not a place for digital nomads these days.

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Still some people on this forum who are upset they just can't seem to figure out how to make $ online... so they just say it's a fallacy lol! 😆.  Well it's not I'm afraid....

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1 hour ago, digibum said:

 

The problem is that the vast majority of them are not web designers, app programmers, artists, musicians, etc.  The people who actually have those skills make 90% of the money and often don't even want to be called digital nomads. 

 

The typical digital nomad is a Millennial or Gen Z'er who has a boring entry-level job, and reads about what an exciting life they could be having as a digital nomad.  So they quit their job and move to Chiang Mai with the $20K they saved.  They move into a hostel to live with other digital nomads and enroll in a "make money fast" course that supposedly teaches them how to become a website designer, SEO specialist, or copywriter.  Then they go to co-working spaces with other digital nomads and try to find work from other digital nomads.  When that doesn't work, they start doing Fiverr and Upwork gigs, competing against some dude in Pakistan. 

 

Then they spend the next 1 - 3 years getting just enough work to slow down how quickly they burn through their life savings, while posting photos of their laptop at a beach or next too a pool so they can flex on the people back home. 

 

When the money is gone, they move back home, tell everyone they got tired of life on the road, lie about having built a successful online business, and go back to working at a boring entry-level job, clicking "Like" on Instagram posts of other digital fauxmads lying about their success. 


Lol - great description. I have no idea if this is the truth. 
 

I don’t think any good comes from these articles - maybe stokes the fire down at immigration HQ that they could extract some money from the hundreds of talented /qualified nomads living and working  in BkK. 
 

I would like to think that they could legitimize it in exchange for a bit of tax - at least that would end the stupid questions every year at visa renewal, but in reality, who cares, it would only be take, take, take.

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