rickthailand Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 hi my dad wants to visit me again and he is vaccinated. can he apply already to come on the 1st July Phuket sandbox thingy? or is it not possible yet? thanx rick
mtls2005 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 He should check with the Thai embassy in his country. 1
Popular Post Pottinger Posted May 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2021 I'd advise strongly against tying money up in this scheme without official confirmation that it will go ahead, and without knowing the details of exactly what will be required of the customer; the COVID situation is far from stable, and given the propensity of the left hand of Thai government not to know what the right hand is doing, I anticipate plenty more flip-flopping before 1st July. 4
Popular Post Phillip9 Posted May 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2021 Not possible yet. No details have been announced. 3
madmen Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 He will need to have deep pockets an that will be the only certainty in this scheme. 1
Peterw42 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 If it is going ahead, what is there to book besides a flight ? The only difference in theory will be not booking an ASQ hotel.
madmen Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: If it is going ahead, what is there to book besides a flight ? The only difference in theory will be not booking an ASQ hotel. Still no embassy listing Phuket as an option. Currently its a no go 1 1
Peterw42 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, madmen said: Still no embassy listing Phuket as an option. Currently its a no go Yes that's right. I imagine if it is going ahead there will be a CoE for a Phuket destination and a CoE for elsewhere in Thailand. 1
pagallim Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, madmen said: Still no embassy listing Phuket as an option. Currently its a no go I doubt that any country would single out Phuket as a permissable destination not requiring quarantine of sorts on return. It would have to be Thailand as a whole.
Popular Post Phillip9 Posted May 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: If it is going ahead, what is there to book besides a flight ? The only difference in theory will be not booking an ASQ hotel. Details haven't been announced yet. Wait for the details. I predict a very long list of restrictions, and requirements, and that you will have to book a very expensive 2 week package at a resort in phuket. 5
zzzzz Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 After JULY 1st YES< well at least its YES if you ask today, ask again in a week an who knows 2 shots ( Unless u have had the 1 shot J & J that are between 14 days and 3 months) and a negative test, that all you need do is remain on the island 7 days and after that ur free to travel. Currently weekly flights via Singapore 2
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted May 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, zzzzz said: 2 shots ( Unless u have had the 1 shot J & J that are between 14 days and 3 months) and a negative test, that all you need do is remain on the island 7 days and after that ur free to travel. That is not correct at this time. It is 14 days for everybody now. 3
Caldera Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 They still have more than a month to flip-flop on this one. Repeatedly, if need be. I wouldn't book anything in advance at this point. 2
zzzzz Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said: That is not correct at this time. It is 14 days for everybody now. never said it was, i said AFTER july 1st Quote After JULY 1st YES<
Stev Lam Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 I believed is not as simple as Vaccinated tourist are allowed to stay freely for 7 days in Phuket before heading to other destinations in Thailand (should they wish to).....it was proposed that this so called "sandbox" scheme meant Vaccinated tourist join a 7 day tour package costing at least 150,000 Baht (include flight, hotel, meals, tours to restricted areas for 7 days) before being released freely.....I Really hope that is not the true meaning of so called 'sandbox" scheme.....We will have to wait for official announcement 1
richard_smith237 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 When I hear about the Phuket Sandbox Model I imagine the following: - Everyone on Phuket is already vaccinated - Foreign arrivals have be be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals can book any hotel for a reasonable cost and travel the island. - Foreign arrivals can’t leave the island for 7 days. - A check point on the bridge checks the date of arrival etc before being permitted to leave the island - Or, foreigners can only leave the island via flight What the Phuket Sandbox Model appears to be: - A 150,000 baht to 200,000 baht money grab - Foreign arrivals have to be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals have to remain within specific ASQ resorts at inflated prices Personally - I’ll quarantine for a week at a regular ASQ in Bangkok for 30-40,0000 baht rather than waste so much. Hopefully within the next month or so the quarantine duration will be once again reduced to 7 days for vaccinated arrivals. 1
AlfHuy Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: When I hear about the Phuket Sandbox Model I imagine the following: - Everyone on Phuket is already vaccinated - Foreign arrivals have be be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals can book any hotel for a reasonable cost and travel the island. - Foreign arrivals can’t leave the island for 7 days. - A check point on the bridge checks the date of arrival etc before being permitted to leave the island - Or, foreigners can only leave the island via flight What the Phuket Sandbox Model appears to be: - A 150,000 baht to 200,000 baht money grab - Foreign arrivals have to be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals have to remain within specific ASQ resorts at inflated prices Personally - I’ll quarantine for a week at a regular ASQ in Bangkok for 30-40,0000 baht rather than waste so much. Hopefully within the next month or so the quarantine duration will be once again reduced to 7 days for vaccinated arrivals. Eat in your hotel room. Drink only water. Don't talk to anyone. Do not dare to go out for a meal or a drink. Do not go to the beach. Book your private Grab driver to bring your daily 7/11 meal. 14 days over, get out of here. Bye bye, thanks for your money.
Deli Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Best is to call the qualified and overpaid staff of the Thai Embassy or Consulate in your dad's country. Nothing sure here.
paahlman Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 7 hours ago, madmen said: Still no embassy listing Phuket as an option. Currently its a no go There are many things to consider.. It is not only the asq that will be waived. It could also possibly be no requirement for a pre covid test. Also the fit to fly paper should be of no meaning... Covid insurance for most people is included in the normal travel insurance yearly people have from their home country, but not before its own country lift travel restrictions on that country. Is a digital doctors print out that you had a vaccine enough or do they require a verifiable vaccine passport that does not exist? There are still tons of question, but I suspect they will be answered by 1. June IF they are still sandboxing Phuket which its seems they will.
madmen Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, paahlman said: There are many things to consider.. It is not only the asq that will be waived. It could also possibly be no requirement for a pre covid test. Also the fit to fly paper should be of no meaning... Covid insurance for most people is included in the normal travel insurance yearly people have from their home country, but not before its own country lift travel restrictions on that country. Is a digital doctors print out that you had a vaccine enough or do they require a verifiable vaccine passport that does not exist? There are still tons of question, but I suspect they will be answered by 1. June IF they are still sandboxing Phuket which its seems they will. @ 150 TO 200K Per 7 day tourist package you won't need any of the above .. Just stupidly deep pockets
stuarty Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 richard_smith237 https://forum.thaivisa.com/profile/22569-richard_smith237/ What the Phuket Sandbox Model appears to be: - A 150,000 baht to 200,000 baht money grab - Foreign arrivals have to be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals have to remain within specific ASQ resorts at inflated prices This is wrong. Please name your source or stop posting nonsense speculation
mtls2005 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, AlfHuy said: Sandbox. What a stupid name. Agreed. Some idiot nephew probably came up with this? I've been lectured that this is in reference to the IT usage, and not the most infectious spot for children in the playground... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_(software_development) Be nice if the regime "sandboxed" their "apps" before releasing them...90-day, TM30, Vaccine reg., et al.
sammieuk1 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 One thing guaranteed it will be a cluster fork ????
richard_smith237 Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, stuarty said: richard_smith237 https://forum.thaivisa.com/profile/22569-richard_smith237/ What the Phuket Sandbox Model appears to be: - A 150,000 baht to 200,000 baht money grab - Foreign arrivals have to be vaccinated and take direct flights to Phuket - Foreign arrivals have to remain within specific ASQ resorts at inflated prices This is wrong. Please name your source or stop posting nonsense speculation You are quite correct. My comments were ’speculation’ << Quote myself "The Phuket Sandbox model appears to be” >> On a website designed for discussion (which involves speculation) can YOU answer any of the following ??? 1) How much will it cost ???? 2) Will the Phuket Sandbox model also be viable for non-vaccinated foreigners ? 3) How will foreign arrivals get to Phuket ? (will they be permitted to transit and take regular domestic flights to Phuket) 4) Will the ’sandbox’ quarantee’s be permitted outside of the resorts ? IF you don’t want discussion, read the news and not a forum designed specifically discussion, opinions, speculation etc... 2
CLW Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 As it can be cancelled anytime, don't book a flight without free re-scheduling within a year or so. Other than that, we shall wait and see. I am planning to use the Phuket Sandbox to visit my family in Europe and coming back without 14 ASQ.
stuarty Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: You are quite correct. My comments were ’speculation’ << Quote myself "The Phuket Sandbox model appears to be” >> On a website designed for discussion (which involves speculation) can YOU answer any of the following ??? 1) How much will it cost ???? 2) Will the Phuket Sandbox model also be viable for non-vaccinated foreigners ? 3) How will foreign arrivals get to Phuket ? (will they be permitted to transit and take regular domestic flights to Phuket) 4) Will the ’sandbox’ quarantee’s be permitted outside of the resorts ? IF you don’t want discussion, read the news and not a forum designed specifically discussion, opinions, speculation etc... Keep your hair on mate. If you say it "appears" to be, that implies that your posting is based on information gleaned from a source. If it's only speculation you would be better to say it "could" be, or "is likely" to be. My answers to your 4 questions are as follows: 1 Don't know 2 Doubt it 3 The transit option via a secure terminal in BKK has been suggested in an article in some national press as a likely option, if insufficient direct international flights to Phuket. 4 There is no quarantine for vaccinated arrivals under the Phuket sandbox model
DFPhuket Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 I'm in a similar situation. I live in Phuket but I'm currently in the US seeing family and am now vaccinated. I'm scheduled to return to BKK in mid-June and do a 14 day quarantine, but if somehow the July 1 Phuket thing happens, I'd cancel my ASQ, change my flight and land in Phuket on July 1. Currently in the COE application process you must provide proof of your ASQ booking - which you won't need for Phuket. Thai officials are making it impossible for people to begin to organize a quarantine free trip to Phuket on July 1. If they really expect people to come by then, they SHOULD organize the rules and process by mid-June. 1
Popular Post Sheryl Posted May 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, DFPhuket said: I'm in a similar situation. I live in Phuket but I'm currently in the US seeing family and am now vaccinated. I'm scheduled to return to BKK in mid-June and do a 14 day quarantine, but if somehow the July 1 Phuket thing happens, I'd cancel my ASQ, change my flight and land in Phuket on July 1. Currently in the COE application process you must provide proof of your ASQ booking - which you won't need for Phuket. Thai officials are making it impossible for people to begin to organize a quarantine free trip to Phuket on July 1. If they really expect people to come by then, they SHOULD organize the rules and process by mid-June. i really, really doubt July 1. They seem to announce start dates here as meaning not when a thing will be operational (as one might assume) but rather as the date when they will start to think about how to make it operational. Has happened with several changes so far and likely this will be the same....if it happens at all. So I would think more in terms of maybe August-September for actually being able to do it. 3
DFPhuket Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sheryl said: i really, really doubt July 1. They seem to announce start dates here as meaning not when a thing will be operational (as one might assume) but rather as the date when they will start to think about how to make it operational. Has happened with several changes so far and likely this will be the same....if it happens at all. So I would think more in terms of maybe August-September for actually being able to do it. Sadly I agree with you, Sheryl. As you can imagine, I'd much prefer extending my trip in the US by 2 weeks rather than getting to BKK, spending 2 weeks in an ASQ, getting released and flying home to Phuket on July 1 - when I could have potentially flown directly to Phuket and skipped the cost and time in quarantine. I could change my Qatar flight from BKK to Phuket. They plus Emirates, Malaysian, Cathay Pacific and Singapore Air have all added nearly daily flights on July 1. For now I'll wait an see.
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