38 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

It's good news that the self referral cases are not increasing at all. It reminds me a bit of the situation in Singapore a while ago where the workers in dormitories were reporting high case numbers but cases in the general population remained low.

That is good news as it indicates testing hesitancy as those that get tested can't work for 2 weeks to feed their families wether they are ill or not, so testing is reduced and people like you think it's good management and that everything is fine and dandy man.

he Bangkok Governor will re-open some places from 1st June:

Museums

Tattoo parlours,

nail salons

Weight watchers, beauty clinic

Health spas and Thai massage

Parks and botanical gardens

Other places will remain closed until at least 14 June y

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1399265186142248960

 

#INFOGRAPHIC: #COVID19 remains rampant in #Thailand, as 3rd wave infects thousands daily, mainly in and around BK. Total deaths have surpassed 1,000. No. of critical patients also remains high. Vaccinations still inconsistent as mass vaccination set to start next week.

 

https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1399259614407925760

 

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

he Bangkok Governor will re-open some places from 1st June:

Museums

Tattoo parlours,

nail salons

Weight watchers, beauty clinic

Health spas and Thai massage

Parks and botanical gardens

Other places will remain closed until at least 14 June y

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1399265186142248960

 

"The Parks will be open, The Parks will be open",  How come I feel like Steve Martin in "the Jerk", with his saying of "The New Phone books is here".  Okay yes I am excited, tired of running on the roads.

Moderna Vaccine Inoculation Not Set Yet

 

BANGKOK, May 31 (TNA) – The Private Hospital Association has not set the start of COVID-19 vaccination with the Moderna vaccine as it is waiting for details about an available amount and the time of its import from the United States.

 

Dr Chalerm Harnphanich, chief executive officer of Bangkok Chain Hospital (BCH) and president of the association, said the association was waiting for the price of the vaccine and the import schedule by Zuellig Pharma that represented Moderna in Thailand.

 

He expected the Government Pharmaceutical Organization to conclude this week the price including logistics. It would be the cost that GPO would pay to the dealer of the Moderna vaccine. GPO would this week conclude the price of the Moderna vaccine that it would sell to private hospitals, Dr Chalerm said.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-707126

 

 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Because it makes a very big difference as we see in Thailand with the UK strain

Of course it does but it doesn't invalidate the fact that the virus can spread in worker dormitories without spreading much in the general population, which is exactly what seems to be happening hence the comparison.

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Time to slow down testing.

 

 

Ironic thing is if testing were done one year ago I believe the results would be similar.

7 minutes ago, anchadian said:

the association was waiting for the price of the vaccine and the import schedule

I don't know why so many guys here are pinning their hopes on Moderna. Australia ordered this months ago and it's not due to be delivered until next year. Thailand hasn't ordered any yet so when really do you think it's going to arrive?

2 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Of course it does but it doesn't invalidate the fact that the virus can spread in worker dormitories without spreading much in the general population, which is exactly what seems to be happening hence the comparison.

The hotspots and clusters here are not just confined to workers camps, they are also in the community, shopping centers, large food stores, care homes, factories. Very different from Singapore.

25 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

That is good news as it indicates testing hesitancy as those that get tested can't work for 2 weeks to feed their families wether they are ill or not, so testing is reduced and people like you think it's good management and that everything is fine and dandy man.

You've misunderstood my point entirely. Testing hesitancy isn't a new thing so would have absolutely no impact at all on the trend. 

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The hotspots and clusters here are not just confined to workers camps, they are also in the community, shopping centers, large food stores, care homes, factories. Very different from Singapore.

Dude, do you understand how comparisons actually work? I think you need a crash course in critical thinking. Of course Singapore isn't EXACTLY the same as Thailand but that doesn't invalidate the comparison. The comparison is this: in both countries covid was spreading in the community but there were particularly high numbers in workers' dormitories. 

Local administration units are advised to wait for the government’s nod before purchasing Covid-19 vaccines, Interior Minister Anupong Paochinda said on Monday. Though he conceded that the agencies had every right to spend their own funds on purchasing the vaccines.

 

Provincial authorities, however, do not have the right to dip into the national vaccine budget without the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration’s approval, he said.

 

Separately, Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul met the press on Monday morning to explain why funds had not been allocated for the Covid-19 crisis in the 2022 national budget.

 

Anutin said his ministry had sought funds to handle the crisis, but the Budget Bureau instructed it to get the funds from the government’s borrowed money or from the central budget.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001507

4 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Dude, do you understand how comparisons actually work?  think you need a crash course in critical thinking. Of course Singapore isn't EXACTLY the same as Thailand but that doesn't invalidate the comparison. The comparison is this: in both countries covid was spreading in the community but they were particularly high numbers in workers dormitories. 

The comparison is not relevant when you have a more highly contagious variant that does not confine itself to camps.

 

If it was that easy then your comparison would have stood stead in the samut sakhon outbreak but not with the situation here in Thailand now. Its nothing like Singapore here.

1 hour ago, DavisH said:

These are cumulative cases, so of course they will increase (it can only flatline when there are no more cases). Plot the daly walk-in cases for the previous month. Post that one. This is the only graph that will indicate uncontrolled community spread. Most cases are still being linked to known or emerging clusters. 

5555 that’s a good one. Even the Thai government hadn’t thought of it.

 

of course they aren’t cumulative, only the end total is cumulative. Each daily/weekly total is NEW cases.

36 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

That's why they watch hospital walk-ins closely, so they can use contact tracing to look for Hotspots. 

Put yourself in this scenario. You are a Bangkok Taxi driver. You have lost 70% of your income now there are no international arrivals, you are struggling to stay afloat and put food on the table for your family. You have seen the horrendous field hospitals with people squashed in like sardines. You start to show mild symptoms of Covid.

What do you think he is going to do ?  

13 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

You've misunderstood my point entirely. Testing hesitancy isn't a new thing so would have absolutely no impact at all on the trend. 

Without knowing how much testing hesitancy there actually is how can you know if there is an impact or not, if 50% of the population aren't going to go near a test I think that would impact the trend significantly.

Just now, FarFlungFalang said:

Without knowing how much testing hesitancy there actually is how can you know if there is an impact or not, if 50% of the population aren't going to go near a test I think that would impact the trend significantly.

Not if it's 50% now was 50% a week ago and was also 50% a month ago.

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158050769872050

 

I notice this graphic doesn’t break down cumulatively those people who have received one jab and those who have received two. Only for the previous day is that done.

 

so once again, the word vaccinated is being used for those who have only had one jab.

 

was it the same for the same graphic yesterday?

‘Car of sharing’ warms Thai hearts in difficult times

 

The car is a new take on the "pantries of sharing" set up in communities by kind-hearted people and organisations in a bid to relieve people's burdens during the Covid-19 outbreak.

 

Local resident Nattida Charoensuk published a photo of the car on Facebook on Sunday, praising the anonymous owner’s generosity and wishing them good health.

 

Her post was shared widely online, drawing positive responses from around the country.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001510

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

For starters, for the record, anyone who thinks they could or should be able to resume their "normal" life -- which I take to mean begin ignoring COVID safety measures -- just because they've received a single vaccine dose is simply wrong and ill-informed.

 

That said, there is an argument to be made that in places/countries where there's a shortage of available vaccines such as Thailand, it may be better to try to get first vaccine doses into as many people as possible first, before then moving on to second doses.

 

That approach is rooted in the understanding that even a first dose only is going to provide a reasonable level of protection against serious COVID illness and death, with some vaccines doing better in that regard than others. And also, some emerging research that shows vaccine effectiveness can be improved with longer intervals until the second dose.

 

But obviously, people will get the most protection out of whatever vaccine they're being given once they've received the second dose. And even then, especially when many in the public remain unvaccinated, it's still best if everyone at least for the timebeing continues to practice COVID safety measures.

 

Think it can be said for Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson or AZ for first dose but I believe from what I read that Sinovac gives very low protection from 1 dose and gets it's big boost from the second dose. If they plan to plough on with the foremost vaccines all good, much the same as the UK did for 4 months before concentrating on second dose. If with bulk Sinovac, not such good a plan. And if people believe one dose is good enough and it is been promoted by the officials then doesn't that come into the realms of "fake vaccine news"?

13 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Without knowing how much testing hesitancy there actually is how can you know if there is an impact or not, if 50% of the population aren't going to go near a test I think that would impact the trend significantly.

I agree. But they will try anything to downplay the outbreak, first its only in Bangkok, then when it spread to the Provinces its only a little, then we get the, aah but its only in hotspots, then yea........... but its a cluster. Prisons? oh just leave them out all together. 

 

In the meantime the CCSA yesterday issues a warning about the possibility of the health services being overwhelmed, they ignore that too. 

 

Charts show increases and numbers climb that is the reality along with all the consequences of it.

12 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I notice this graphic doesn’t break down cumulatively those people who have received one jab and those who have received two. Only for the previous day is that done.

 

so once again, the word vaccinated is being used for those who have only had one jab.

 

was it the same for the same graphic yesterday?

These graphics from NBTWorld only give the previous day's vaccinations and not the breakdown of total vaccinated.

 

About 1.67 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 2,498,929 (+45,122) people received the first dose, while 1,110,953 (+16,430) received the second dose.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1399238958333054977

6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

 

Strange how they seemingly managed to escape 1 year and now suddely this spike.

 

No testing, no cases.

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The numbers were stable until today. Let’s see what happened to cause the spike.

 

Exactly. The daily case rate within the general population has been fairly stable at 2-2.4k for 4-5 weeks. 

38 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

Put yourself in this scenario. You are a Bangkok Taxi driver. You have lost 70% of your income now there are no international arrivals, you are struggling to stay afloat and put food on the table for your family. You have seen the horrendous field hospitals with people squashed in like sardines. You start to show mild symptoms of Covid.

What do you think he is going to do ?  

What you are forgetting is that this applies to everyone who goes to the hospital with Covid symptoms.

While rising coronavirus cases and deaths in recent days suggest Thailand is no longer the country that some last year thought would be largely spared the pandemic, neither is the country's overall current circumstance all that bad from a cases perspective, as least thus far, and when compared to a lot of other countries around the world. (The economic impact of COVID on Thailand and its people is a whole other discussion).

 

I pulled together some comparative charts from the website Our World in Data comparing Thailand on several key indicators with a selected group of major countries and Thailand's regional neighboring countries, and here's what those show, if statistics are to be believed.

 

Thailand's worst look right now is its tiny share of the country's population that's been fully vaccinated for COVID, though Thailand also has been moving up the charts on its per capita share of new COVID cases currently being reported. But Thailand's current and cumulative per capita rates of COVID fatalities remain comparatively low.

 

Per Capita COVID cases, current and then cumulative:

 

 

 

 

Per Capita COVID deaths, current and cumulative:

 

 

 

 

Cumulative Case Fatality rate (deaths among confirmed cases):

 

 

Fully Vaccinated Share of the Population:

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

 

 

BTW, just for the record, NONE of the above is meant to deny the coronavirus or downplay the seriousness of the pandemic, nor to advocate for the lifting of various health-related restrictions.

 

Rather, it's just a reminder and some sense of context that no matter how bad you think your current situation may be, there's usually someplace else that's having/had it worse.

 

Hospitals restrict vaccine registration amid supply concerns

 

The Chulabhorn Royal Academy (CRA) and several private hospitals were closing their registration procedures for vaccination against the Covid-19 virus on Monday.

 

The Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) last week asked people to “slow down” their vaccine registration via the Mor Phrom Application due to limited supply of vaccines.

 

The locally produced AstraZeneca vaccine will reportedly not be delivered in June as scheduled.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28085/hospitals-restrict-vaccine-registration-amid-supply-concerns/

Prayut asked parliament on Monday whether anyone had a better vaccine plan than the one put in place by the government. “I insist that there will be enough vaccine in June,” he said during the fiscal budget debate on Monday. #ประชุมสภา #วัคซีนโควิด19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1399288020633677828

 

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

While rising coronavirus cases and deaths in recent days suggest Thailand is no longer the country that some last year thought would be largely spared the pandemic, neither is the country's current circumstance all that bad, as least thus far, and when compared to a lot of other countries around the world.

 

I pulled together some comparative charts from the website Our World in Data comparing Thailand on several key indicators with a selected group of major countries and Thailand's regional neighboring countries, and here's what those show, if statistics are to be believed.

 

Thailand's worst look right now is its tiny share of the country's population that's been fully vaccinated for COVID, though Thailand also has been moving up the charts on its per capita share of new COVID cases currently being reported. But Thailand's current and cumulative per capita rates of COVID fatalities remain comparatively low.

 

Per Capita COVID cases, current and then cumulative:

 

 

 

 

Per Capita COVID deaths, current and cumulative:

 

 

 

 

Fully Vaccinated Share of the Population:

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

 

It really isn't that bad? That's if you believe those numbers Thailand puts out, Many countries including the USA China and Russia along with many others have all been caught fudging  their numbers. 

28 minutes ago, anchadian said:

These graphics from NBTWorld only give the previous day's vaccinations and not the breakdown of total vaccinated.

 

About 1.67 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 2,498,929 (+45,122) people received the first dose, while 1,110,953 (+16,430) received the second dose.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1399238958333054977

Thanks anchadian. Seems the graphic is also inaccurate then. The 3 million odd people that they quote is actually only 2.4 million odd. NBT seems to have combined the first and second jabs and so have counted some people twice.