Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Danderman123 said: According to the Pattaya News, its due to finding 2 new clusters. But, this begs the question of whether Whack a Mole is going to be effective. By the time a cluster is identified, the virus may have already spread elsewhere. Indeed. Imho whack a mole works in a short space of time, or it doesn’t really work at all. In other words, if it is utilised as a strategy and cases fall in the relative short term, that’s fine. But if it doesn’t work in the short term, it definitely won’t work in the long term. Some cases will always escape the whack and go on to spread elsewhere. it can be used in the hope it works, but if it doesn’t, then it’s full lock down, enough vaccinations done, or the virus trundles on. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, RupertIII said: My wife tried to register me with Sikarin Hospital in BKK this morning and was told the same - have to contact my embassy. Isn't that a private hospital? There would be a lot less confusion if people followed the guidelines and made enquiries at government facilities. I had no problem registering at the Chonburi local authority before the Mor Phrom was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Danderman123 said: According to the Pattaya News, its due to finding 2 new clusters. But, this begs the question of whether Whack a Mole is going to be effective. By the time a cluster is identified, the virus may have already spread elsewhere. On 10th April there were 141 cases in Chonburi, and about 7 weeks later it is 101. Hardly an exponential explosion, but feel free to spread what you want. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, sandyf said: On 10th April there were 141 cases in Chonburi, and about 7 weeks later it is 101. Hardly an exponential explosion, but feel free to spread what you want. Hmm, forgive me if I missed it. But where in danderman s short post does he mention “exponential explosion”? He made a short statement and wondered out loud whether as one cluster was resolved, another might pop up. perfectly reasonable given that’s what has actually been happening for the last two weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Rolling 7 day average which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand Please, also attach the vaccination numbers chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, sandyf said: Isn't that a private hospital? There would be a lot less confusion if people followed the guidelines and made enquiries at government facilities. I had no problem registering at the Chonburi local authority before the Mor Phrom was introduced. You mean the guidelines that said go to the hospital that has your medical records? Or walk right up to a vaccination Centre? Or......you get what I mean? and my private hospital called me and registered me. in fact, in my short 13 years in Thailand, making enquiries at government facilities is almost guaranteed to bring about confusion. but good that things worked out for you. Others have achieved the same thing in different ways. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 There seems to be an awfully high ratio of deaths to infections. Anyone know why? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 Pathum Thani Covid cluster tops 400 cases A new cluster at a chicken-meat processing factory pushed Pathum Thani’s daily Covid-cases to more than 400 and two new clusters were found in Bangkok, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Friday. Of the 2,391 local cases (excluding the 189 cases in 13 prisons and 51 imported cases) that were reported in the past 24 hours, the highest numbers by province were 824 in Bangkok followed by 460 in Pathum Thani, 202 in Samut Prakan and 198 in Phetchaburi. “Most of the cases in Pathum Thani are still being found via pro-active findings at a chicken meat processing factory and surrounding communities,” said Apisamai Srirangsan, the CCSA’s deputy spokeswoman. https://www.thaienquirer.com/28219/pathum-thani-covid-cluster-tops-400-cases/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, robertson468 said: There seems to be an awfully high ratio of deaths to infections. Anyone know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 Chonburi orders temporary closure of ice factory in Si Racha The Chonburi Governor today (June 4th) has ordered a temporary closure of an ice factory in Si Racha due to many confirmed cases of Covid -19. The order from the Chonburi Governor Phakarathorn Teanchai has been released today (June 4th) by the Chonburi Public Relations Office. The order concludes that more confirmed cases and close contacts of Covid -19 were found at the Suksawat Pansadet ice factory in the Khao Kansong sub-district in Si Racha. https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/04/chonburi-orders-temporary-closure-of-ice-factory-in-si-racha/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, anchadian said: Pathum Thani Covid cluster tops 400 cases A new cluster at a chicken-meat processing factory pushed Pathum Thani’s daily Covid-cases to more than 400 and two new clusters were found in Bangkok, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Friday. Of the 2,391 local cases (excluding the 189 cases in 13 prisons and 51 imported cases) that were reported in the past 24 hours, the highest numbers by province were 824 in Bangkok followed by 460 in Pathum Thani, 202 in Samut Prakan and 198 in Phetchaburi. “Most of the cases in Pathum Thani are still being found via pro-active findings at a chicken meat processing factory and surrounding communities,” said Apisamai Srirangsan, the CCSA’s deputy spokeswoman. https://www.thaienquirer.com/28219/pathum-thani-covid-cluster-tops-400-cases/ According to the article, the chicken processing factory had 854 cases from 2000 tests. Very high positivity rate. and I’m not sure how the province ends up with “more than 400” cases. I know 854 is more than 400 but it’s an odd way to describe it. Maybe the factories cases are spread across multiple days. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, robertson468 said: There seems to be an awfully high ratio of deaths to infections. Anyone know why? 1.2%.... ? It is a number around 2.0% worldwide. It may be a little higher than in the past for Thailand.... The deaths' were surprisingly low last year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojothai Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, dinsdale said: Today or tomorrow will see Thailand at number 80 on the covid charts. A move up of 37 spots in around 6 or 7 wks. IMHO Its the here and now that matters. Why not give Thailand its proper status in Covid cases? Now Number 5 on the daily new cases. Even above India. Its been heading up the charts very well recently. Another upward lurch and they will get to no 3. Could they be poised to claim the number 1 spot soon? Edited June 4, 2021 by jojothai add info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: According to the article, the chicken processing factory had 854 cases from 2000 tests. Very high positivity rate. and I’m not sure how the province ends up with “more than 400” cases. I know 854 is more than 400 but it’s an odd way to describe it. Maybe the factories cases are spread across multiple days. Maybe they use the same calculator the TAT uses. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said: Maybe they use the same calculator the TAT uses. Or more simply but directly put, they just lie their heads off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 I’ve just come out of a meeting with the Governor & deputy governors of the TAT about the #PhuketSandbox plan. The good news is that it will go ahead as it has been approved in principle by the CCSA. The bad news is that the 7 days is now 14 days before you can visit elsewhere. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1400760895093952513 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, robertson468 said: There seems to be an awfully high ratio of deaths to infections. Anyone know why? I would suspect that they can not lie about deaths, unless they are illegal migrants of course, but they can lie and depress the numbers of covid infections and/or simply not testing of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, anchadian said: I’ve just come out of a meeting with the Governor & deputy governors of the TAT about the #PhuketSandbox plan. The good news is that it will go ahead as it has been approved in principle by the CCSA. The bad news is that the 7 days is now 14 days before you can visit elsewhere. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1400760895093952513 Richard barrow makes the point that tourists who arrive under the sandbox scheme don’t have to stay all day in the SHA approved hotel, they can go where they like on the island. what he doesn’t say is that currently they cannot go to a bar for a drink, or have wine with their meal, or, in the event my sister were to come, she could not visit me at my house for a “social gathering”. it’s a holiday Jim, but not as we know it. maybe those rules will change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Richard barrow makes the point that tourists who arrive under the sandbox scheme don’t have to stay all day in the SHA approved hotel, they can go where they like on the island. what he doesn’t say is that currently they cannot go to a bar for a drink, or have wine with their meal, or, in the event my sister were to come, she could not visit me at my house for a “social gathering”. it’s a holiday Jim, but not as we know it. maybe those rules will change. Just read the R.B. thread on twitter. So despite being fully vaccinated the hoops and restrictions you have to go through on the first 14 days staying in a SHA hotel is completely ridiculous. If your going to announce that International tourists can arrive then the most it should be is to be fully vaccinated and a negative test taken within 72 hours of arrival. Any more than that and nobodies going to come aside from those looking to stay for extended periods, expats and possibly business people. Certainly not holiday makers. They are better to put this whole idea off until its workable enough for real tourists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Maybe they use the same calculator the TAT uses. Close proximity workings going on. It is why it's been good for office workers to work from home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: it’s a holiday Jim, but not as we know it. It's a new normal Jim ,but one that will flip flop without warning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 10 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: And the TAT meeting today, will the Phuket sandbox turn into a fiasco? People are dying, the last thing we want is foreigners coming just so they can get a sun tan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: I’ve just come out of a meeting with the Governor & deputy governors of the TAT about the #PhuketSandbox plan. The good news is that it will go ahead as it has been approved in principle by the CCSA. The bad news is that the 7 days is now 14 days before you can visit elsewhere. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1400760895093952513 That's makes as much sense as telling people they are basically quarantined. Hopefully the restrictions to stay on the property are relaxed. Traveling with a paid guide for individual day trips was also something that had been in the plan for visiting Kho PiPi and such places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: That's makes as much sense as telling people they are basically quarantined. Hopefully the restrictions to stay on the property are relaxed. Traveling with a paid guide for individual day trips was also something that had been in the plan for visiting Kho PiPi and such places. Well anybody who honestly thought they would waltz into Phuket for 7 days under the "Sandbox" fantasy" and then move on must really have been relieved of their common sense. Points of note should have been 1) This is Thailand 2) The sandbox example was thought up to profit a few people 3) It is Phuket, hardly a province known for its honesty. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, jojothai said: IMHO Its the here and now that matters. Why not give Thailand its proper status in Covid cases? Now Number 5 on the daily new cases. Even above India. Its been heading up the charts very well recently. Another upward lurch and they will get to no 3. Could they be poised to claim the number 1 spot soon? You have to wait until 23hrs GMT to get the true picture, the world runs on 24 time zones, e.g. Uk isn't going to report it's numbers at mid-day Thai time. Plus some countries numbers are drip fed due to individual state/province reporting methods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Hongkongers can fly direct to Phuket from July as Thailand seeks to kick-start tourism sector, but experts say success of scheme depends on quarantine-free travel Thai Airways to resume service from July 2 with minimum cost of ticket just over HK$3,000 But Thailand listed as high risk by Hong Kong, meaning anyone returning from country faces two to three weeks in quarantine But travel industry stakeholders said whether tourism could be revived between the two destinations would depend on the governments reaching a consensus over quarantine-free arrangements. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/3136115/hongkongers-can-fly-direct-phuket-july-thailand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 At last.... Now maybe - just may be - it’d have been a better idea to close the malls while there was a chance to contain it…? #COVID19 https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1400806774106513411 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, jojothai said: IMHO Its the here and now that matters. Why not give Thailand its proper status in Covid cases? Now Number 5 on the daily new cases. Even above India. Its been heading up the charts very well recently. Another upward lurch and they will get to no 3. Could they be poised to claim the number 1 spot soon? 131,371 new cases reported today in India. What you have done is looked at this early. Even this number may rise. The numbers tick over as data comes in unlike testing data from Thailand which now and for well more than a month hasn't ticked over at all. Edited June 4, 2021 by dinsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phills2k1 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, sandyf said: And why has that taken so long? Rhetorical question, we all know about "America first". LOL Some people, I swear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 Thailand reports 2,817 new COVID-19 cases, 36 new deaths REUTERS FILE PHOTO for reference only Thailand on Saturday (June 5) reported 2,817 new COVID-19 cases and 36 additional deaths. Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1219527-thailand-reports-2817-new-covid-19-cases-36-new-deaths/ //CLOSED// /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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