club Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Susco said: The only thing wrong with your logic is that there was no significant drop in the weekend figures, compared with previous days, but today we have almost double the average There is no logic in his statement. Its the highest number out of any weekend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, JackGats said: Interesting how plants in the US keep having cock-ups when it comes to vaccine manufacturing. Or maybe quality control in the US is too stringent. If the Zeneca vaccines are at all usable I hope the US are not going to let them go to waste though. I think this is not a new problem but resulted from the same earlier problems that ruined the J&J production. After the J&J problems, Emergent Biosolutions was no longer authorized to make AstraZenica. This is the old production lot. Also might be a little politics involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 does anyone know of the actual daily testing capacity in Thailand or by provence One of the first things they did in the UK was to massively ramp up testing capacity early last year Howmany daily tests can Thailand actually do if they felt the need, it was indicated months ago that there was a limit of between 15-20k per day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 8.3% of Thailand’s population receive first vaccine dose, 3.3% fully vaccinated 8.3% of the entire population of Thailand, or 5,526,039 people, have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, while only 2,153,018 have had their second doses, or 3.3% of the population, according to the Ministry of Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation. Phuket remains the province with highest vaccination rate, with 63.33% receiving the first dose and 40.73% having their second, while the percentages in Bangkok are 22.55% and 7.25% respectively. All medical personnel have now received their first dose, while 90.5% of them have been fully vaccinated. Low percentages are, however, found in the target groups for the months of June and July, namely people aged 60 and over, and those with any of the seven specified non-communicable diseases. More: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/8-3-of-thailands-population-receive-first-vaccine-dose-3-3-fully-vaccinated/ Edited June 22, 2021 by anchadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, anchadian said: 8.3% of Thailand’s population receive first vaccine dose, 3.3% fully vaccinated 8.3% of the entire population of Thailand, or 5,526,039 people, have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, while only 2,153,018 have had their second doses, or 3.3% of the population, according to the Ministry of Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation. Phuket remains the province with highest vaccination rate, with 63.33% receiving the first dose and 40.73% having their second, while the percentages in Bangkok are 22.55% and 7.25% respectively. All medical personnel have now received their first dose, while 90.5% of them have been fully vaccinated. Low percentages are, however, found in the target groups for the months of June and July, namely people aged 60 and over, and those with any of the seven specified non-communicable diseases. More: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/8-3-of-thailands-population-receive-first-vaccine-dose-3-3-fully-vaccinated/ Phuket has a long way to go to 70% before July 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Macrohistory Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: There is a history of sharp one day spikes. It is very possible that this is another such spike, and the numbers will drop sharply tomorrow. Four days in a row now with positive test results exceeding 3,000 — first time that’s happened. Sudden surge to 4,000 cases amid dangerous variants being transmitted around. Only a Goldilocks Pollyanna could find good news in this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, tomazbodner said: Who cares about Delta variant. This is far more worrying: https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/ From that article: ------------------------------------------------------------ The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said. In terms of vaccine effectiveness against the Beta variant, Dr Supakit said the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is becoming Thailand’s main vaccine, has only a 10.4-per-cent chance to protect against infection from the Beta variant and it cannot prevent severe symptoms. A study also showed that the level of protection offered by the Sinovac vaccine, another main vaccine in the country, dropped by 70 per cent against the Beta variant, he added. ------------------------------------------------------------ Admittedly only one case detected in Phuket, but that's detected, right? How many are silently spreading it and not detected? It will be the end of tourism for Thailand if tourists come, fully vaccinated, only to be infected by variant for which their vaccines are near completely useless. Agreed, the beta variant is the thing I worry about most. With the other variants, you could if you wished, shut your eyes for 12 months and hope that vaccines take care of the problem for you. Seemingly the new government policy. but with the beta variant, research suggest that the vaccines being used in Thailand will not take care of the problem. So where does that leave the country? reliance on a single manufacturer leaves you open to the risk of production issues….so it has proven to be. Reliance on only a single vaccine, albeit now topped up with sinovac, leaves you open to a variant more resistant to that particular vaccine. all this data and the government solution is to loosen restrictions. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: What is said about countries with low testing rates is this. [We know that due to low testing rates the number of infections will be higher than that which is reported.] This only makes sense and Thailand falls into this category. Yes BKK Brian some might yawn but it has been said by many of us from the beginning if you don't look you don't find. As per usual this mob is reactive and not proactive. Helps to keep numbers down but eventually the spread cannot be contained and even the official numbers will raise especially if this is the B.1.617.2 (or other highly contaigeous variants of the Delta strain) and the N501Y circulating. Ooops. Beta B1351. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, club said: Phuket has a long way to go to 70% before July 1 Come 01 July, the figures will be adjusted accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, tomazbodner said: Who cares about Delta variant. This is far more worrying: https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/ From that article: ------------------------------------------------------------ The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said. In terms of vaccine effectiveness against the Beta variant, Dr Supakit said the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is becoming Thailand’s main vaccine, has only a 10.4-per-cent chance to protect against infection from the Beta variant and it cannot prevent severe symptoms. A study also showed that the level of protection offered by the Sinovac vaccine, another main vaccine in the country, dropped by 70 per cent against the Beta variant, he added. ------------------------------------------------------------ Admittedly only one case detected in Phuket, but that's detected, right? How many are silently spreading it and not detected? It will be the end of tourism for Thailand if tourists come, fully vaccinated, only to be infected by variant for which their vaccines are near completely useless. A graphic in the BP shows the Beta variant creeping northwards from the southern provinces. Will it hit Phuket or will it not spread to an island? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, champers said: A graphic in the BP shows the Beta variant creeping northwards from the southern provinces. Will it hit Phuket or will it not spread to an island? You have to assume that foreign embassies in Thailand are monitoring this situation and feeding the information to the powers that be, back home. Rather than be Thailand’s tourism savior, the Phuket sandbox might actually be the trigger that causes countries to place Thailand on a red list, if countries think that the beta variant has or will shortly reach the island. possible ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, champers said: A graphic in the BP shows the Beta variant creeping northwards from the southern provinces. Will it hit Phuket or will it not spread to an island? There's already 3 cases of the beta in Phuket from this. This was from yesterday: "The Poryani cluster, as it has been called by local news, has led to 111 cases in Narathiwat followed by 102 cases in Yala, 46 cases in Satun, 46 cases in Pattani, 36 cases in Songkhla, 18 in Krabi, 13 in Phatthalung and 10 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, nine in Surat Thani, five in Phang Nga and three each in Trang and Phuket, the CCSA said." https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/ Edited June 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Nobody expects international tourism to return to 100% in 2021. The expectation by the government is for relatively small numbers of tourists after October. They are now talking 146,000 in July and 10 times that by December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, rott said: They are now talking 146,000 in July and 10 times that by December. How can they predict these numbers without sighting of the passenger manifests, which is something they are unable to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, anchadian said: How can they predict these numbers without sighting of the passenger manifests, which is something they are unable to do. Perhaps they just like making forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: I think you'll find the odd spike you talk about is when prison numbers are released in chunks. Today is basically all community transmission. If it drops tomorrow it will have to drop by more than 1000 community infections from today's numbers to take it back down to the 2k's and stay there to show the last few days of >3k is an anomaly. No, I am referring to spikes in community cases. Past spikes in community cases were followed by sharp drops in community cases. If I had to bet money, I would bet that tomorrow’s community cases are 1,000 lower. Edited June 22, 2021 by Danderman123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR2020 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Delta variant is spreading. As I predicted, we are into 4K per day. Soon will be 5K per day. Phuket Sandbox will cause more spikes as infected "tourists" come in an spread the virus. Reopening July 1st. Closing on July 31st ? or before that................. ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Pattaya has been very lucky. Still lots of Bangkok folks here on the weekend. Places like Tree Town packed not one person with a mask. Mongers and others going into the massage shops. Some other shops/restaurants with close interaction. Just sayin, all it might take is one of these variants in the crowded spaces. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, Macrohistory said: Four days in a row now with positive test results exceeding 3,000 — first time that’s happened. Sudden surge to 4,000 cases amid dangerous variants being transmitted around. Only a Goldilocks Pollyanna could find good news in this. This is not good news. I am simply noting that we have had spikes before, following weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, bkk6060 said: Pattaya has been very lucky. Still lots of Bangkok folks here on the weekend. Places like Tree Town packed not one person with a mask. Mongers and others going into the massage shops. Some other shops/restaurants with close interaction. Just sayin, all it might take is one of these variants in the crowded spaces. In my circles, everyone wears a mask, except for the odd elderly Farang. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) on Monday approved measures to prepare the aviation industry for the reopening of Thailand to foreign tourists, starting with Phuket on July 1 under the Phuket Tourism Sandbox scheme Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob, who chaired the CAA meeting, said: “If the scheme turns out to be a success, similar schemes would be implemented in nine tourism provinces while the full reopening of the country will start within 120 days.” “It is estimated that until the end of the year, the aviation industry will see a total of 1.4 million international passengers, up about 10 times the estimate for July.” To prepare for the increasing number of visitors, the CAA has ordered airports to arrange flight slots accordingly. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) Bit off topic. Just watching news TV. Near Din Daeng market they are setting up few tents for several folk tested positive and no room is cardboard beds in that area. That's my area hence the gf interest. Edited June 22, 2021 by DrJack54 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Well RR2020 thinks we're all doomed and Dan thinks the worst is behind us. Time for a bet.? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, rott said: Well RR2020 thinks we're all doomed and Dan thinks the worst is behind us. Time for a bet.? This is going to be very one sided. Offer some odds. Edit: just read "all doomed" perhaps it's a perfect match Edited June 22, 2021 by DrJack54 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Chonburi 335! "The situation in Chonburi went from really good to really bad in just one week. Which I unfortunately predicted correctly only a few days ago due to an almost total lack of effective controls at wet markets etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Pattaya has been very lucky. Still lots of Bangkok folks here on the weekend. Places like Tree Town packed not one person with a mask. Mongers and others going into the massage shops. Some other shops/restaurants with close interaction. Just sayin, all it might take is one of these variants in the crowded spaces. Hence 335 cases in Chonburi today and many more to come no doubt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 After a poor performance over the weekend, the vaccination rollout is back to 200K per day. But still half what they achieved on the first two days. It’s not as if there’e not enough willing people. Even on Phuket expats tell me they are still waiting for their first appointment. National Vaccination Rollout: DAY 1: 416,847 DAY 2: 472,128 - - - - DAY 8: 323,060 DAY 9: 269,632 DAY 10: 222,967 DAY 11: 215,885 DAY 12: 263,415 DAY 13: 104,095 DAY 14: 91,879 DAY 15: 227,639 TOTAL: 3,806,175 #Thailand https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407197332655861764 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, rott said: Well RR2020 thinks we're all doomed and Dan thinks the worst is behind us. Time for a bet.? The bet is for what, "How long is a piece of string"? That's the way these cases keep moving onwards, like a long piece of string with no end in sight. Could this be the new normal for the world?, well if so then we are in for a long and twisty road ahead. No matter what happens Covid is apparently here to stay with ever mutating variants, so in essence much like the Flu, but even more infectious and with deadlier consequences. Again, that's just my view from the sidelines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 Senior doctor warns Sinovac should not be considered for Phuket sandbox Travelers who have been vaccinated with Sinovac should not be allowed to participate in Thailand’s ‘Phuket Sandbox’ program, a senior doctor told Thai Enquirer on Tuesday. The Phuket Sandbox is due to open on July 1 and will be a major milestone in the government’s quest to reopen the country by October. As it stands, tourists that have been vaccinated with AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, Sinovac, and Sinopharm vaccines will be allowed to enter Phuket freely. More: https://www.thaienquirer.com/28837/senior-doctor-warns-sinovac-should-not-be-considered-for-phuket-sandbox/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phills2k1 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ron jeremy said: Where’s Brewster budgen telling us all is going great open everything ???? If I had to guess, he's taking the day off so that if the (announced) numbers drop to 3,900 tomorrow, he'll have the energy for an "I told you it wasn't exponential, we're near the end of the tunnel!" victory lap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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