7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

All from page one page: https://aseannow.com/topic/1221935-mass-exodus-from-bangkok-after-closure-of-construction-sites/page/2/

 

To be honest this is going to be another disaster in the making, but can you blame anyone.

If i was told I was about to be involuntarily locked up in my camp I bu**er off quickly too.

The authorities have got to get to grips with this and find more humane ways of testing/treating migrant workers... not threatening to lock them up like infected cattle.

 

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Mass exodus to spread the virus more all over Thailand. Great idea, why did'nt I think of that.

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Same here. Two weeks ago nothing locally. Nearest case 15 k away.

 

Now family in same soi have a covid victim plus a policemans family on edge of village also kindly brought it here. Temple in town closed with infected monks along with adjacent school.

 

Spreading like wildfire it seems.

 

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Driving to Pattaya from Hua Hin yesterday, I noticed the traffic jams everywhere and my lady was blaming road works. Now, I understand, people were fleeing the capital thus spreading the virus all over the country.

 

The government's disastrous decision making becoming much more than inept, its actually becoming obviously criminal. So many avoidable lives will be lost soon and  this country is going to be a much more scary place as was once Wuhan, Italy or India recently. I hope I am wrong. Be safe everyone.

Still nobody there are criticizing the provinces, its a collection of comments on the poor decision making by Prayut that lead to it. Exactly what we've all been saying thank you for the confirmation

 

 

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1415907257322119168

If you are paying attention, you will see that net admissions (total new hospital admissions minus discharges) are now down to 1000. That means that only 1,000 people were squeezed into unused beds (ie nobody slept there the night before) in the very strained hospital system.

 

We have seen net admissions decrease over the last few days,   When and if it hits 0, that means the entire system is at capacity. 

 

There will be brief periods after that when there are net admissions due to opening new facilities.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Still nobody there are criticizing the provinces, its a collection of comments on the poor decision making by Prayut that lead to it. Exactly what we've all been saying thank you for the confirmation

if the provinces are able to cope with the exodus then maybe it is not a disaster as it has been repeatedly described on ThaiVisa/Asean. A disaster would if they were not able to cope.

Just now, jerrymahoney said:

if the provinces are able to cope with the exodus then maybe it is not a disaster as it has been repeatedly described on ThaiVisa/Asean. A disaster would if they were not able to cope.

Yes I'll leave that little beauty there, have a good day

3 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

if the provinces are able to cope with the exodus then maybe it is not a disaster as it has been repeatedly described on ThaiVisa/Asean. A disaster would if they were not able to cope.

Kalasin hospital is practically full as I expect are many others in the provinces. The entire public hospital system is bulging at the seams. 

Falling behind again:

 

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 30: 269,653

DAY 31: 291,575

DAY 32: 356,378

DAY 33: 399,908

DAY 34: 93,284 <— Saturday

DAY 35: 100,025 <— Sunday

DAY 36: 338,980

DAY 37: 322,488

DAY 38: 303,036

DAY 39: 289,998

 

TOTAL: 9,722,834 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1415925821546504196

 

BioNTech produces 10 times more antibodies than Sinovac: Hong Kong study

Hong Kong, China (AFP) – People who received BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine had ten times the amount of antibodies than those given China’s Sinovac, a Hong Kong study has shown, adding to growing data on different jabs’ effectiveness.

 

The University of Hong Kong (HKU) research, based on a study of 1,442 healthcare workers, was published in Lancet Microbe on Thursday.

 

Researchers said antibodies are not the only measure of a vaccine’s success at fighting a particular disease.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/biontech-produces-10-times-more-antibodies-than-sinovac-hong-kong-study/

25 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Driving to Pattaya from Hua Hin yesterday, I noticed the traffic jams everywhere and my lady was blaming road works. 

No issue with road checks etc? 

Just Hau Hin to Pattaya zero check? 

33 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Friday

Total: 9,677

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158143801937050

Out of 9,062 local cases (outside of prisons), most in

 

Bangkok - 2,195

Samut Sakhon - 653

Samut Prakan - 607

Chonburi - 530

Nonthaburi - 456

Chachoengsao - 374

Yala - 264

Pathum Thani - 243

Nakhon Pathom - 202

Pattani - 191

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1415925168875081731

 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Safe if you are vaccinated.

Why will it run out of people to infect? The current large numbers, near 50,000/day, are likely vaccinated already, else would be reflected in hospitalizations and deaths. Do you perhaps claim they are mostly the young?

I have concerns vaccinations are not reducing infections at all, that was lockdowns.

Tbh, in my view vaccines reduce infections. With delta it’s not such comprehensive protection, but still, they do reduce them. But, there’s always a but, the UK still has many unvaccinated people and some vaccinated people will also catch Covid. Hence, large case numbers. Theoretically, that is not a problem if a very large percentage of those infected do not go on to have severe symptoms.

 

if theory turns out to be reality, infections do not bother me. In fact, if theory turns out to be reality, I would stop counting, in the same way that colds aren’t counted.

 

I feel the UK is an interesting test case for other countries in many ways.

 

my biggest concern is yet another variant appearing, one against which vaccines do not work.

Infection counts. Mass hysteria. Empowering govnt. Should count hospitalisations, instead of infections. More objective. One day sooner or later everyone will be infected. Vaccinated or not. And everyone who dies can be tested positive for the virus. Question should be to which extend the virus infection contributed to hospitalisation or death in each case.

11 minutes ago, anchadian said:

BioNTech produces 10 times more antibodies than Sinovac: Hong Kong study

Hong Kong, China (AFP) – People who received BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine had ten times the amount of antibodies than those given China’s Sinovac, a Hong Kong study has shown, adding to growing data on different jabs’ effectiveness.

 

The University of Hong Kong (HKU) research, based on a study of 1,442 healthcare workers, was published in Lancet Microbe on Thursday.

 

Researchers said antibodies are not the only measure of a vaccine’s success at fighting a particular disease.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/biontech-produces-10-times-more-antibodies-than-sinovac-hong-kong-study/

Probably one of the reasons that Singapore excludes Sinovac shots from COVID-19 vaccination tally

14 minutes ago, anchadian said:

BioNTech produces 10 times more antibodies than Sinovac: Hong Kong study

Hong Kong, China (AFP) – People who received BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine had ten times the amount of antibodies than those given China’s Sinovac, a Hong Kong study has shown, adding to growing data on different jabs’ effectiveness.

 

The University of Hong Kong (HKU) research, based on a study of 1,442 healthcare workers, was published in Lancet Microbe on Thursday.

 

Researchers said antibodies are not the only measure of a vaccine’s success at fighting a particular disease.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/biontech-produces-10-times-more-antibodies-than-sinovac-hong-kong-study/

I never see the stuff produced by Thai doctors produced in Lancet Microbe. Facebook seems to be as far as they get. Maybe I keep missing the Lancet ones.

5 minutes ago, TKI said:

Infection counts. Mass hysteria. Empowering govnt. Should count hospitalisations, instead of infections. More objective. One day sooner or later everyone will be infected. Vaccinated or not. And everyone who dies can be tested positive for the virus. Question should be to which extend the virus infection contributed to hospitalisation or death in each case.

In my opinion, yes, and no. Until an adequate level of vaccinations are achieved, cases matter….a lot.

26 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

if the provinces are able to cope with the exodus then maybe it is not a disaster as it has been repeatedly described on ThaiVisa/Asean. A disaster would if they were not able to cope.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst?

At least in Khon Kaen most of the new covid cases from the returnees from Bangkok are members of families in Khon Kaen. They seem to be able to deal with such persons whether resources are stretched thin or not.

Elderly people receive Sinopharm vaccine jabs today at Siriraj Hospital. The vaccines was donated by HRH Princess Chulabhorn. . On Thursday, the Thai Red Cross confirmed that it secured 1 million doses of Moderna vaccines to soon be distributed free of charge. #วัคซีนโควิด19

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1415932012439818243

8 minutes ago, TKI said:

Infection counts. Mass hysteria. Empowering govnt. Should count hospitalisations, instead of infections. More objective. One day sooner or later everyone will be infected. Vaccinated or not. And everyone who dies can be tested positive for the virus. Question should be to which extend the virus infection contributed to hospitalisation or death in each case.

This is basic Denier misdirection. 

 

No useful public policy could be based on your comments, only death and misery would result if policymakers paid attention to you. 

10 minutes ago, TKI said:

Infection counts. Mass hysteria. Empowering govnt. Should count hospitalisations, instead of infections. More objective. One day sooner or later everyone will be infected. Vaccinated or not. And everyone who dies can be tested positive for the virus. Question should be to which extend the virus infection contributed to hospitalisation or death in each case.

If nobody counts infections, how do hospitals prepare for incoming surges of patients? 

 

 

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

OK so you're not sure.

 

But Ok it seems at least in Khon Kaen they are handling the Bangkok Covid exodus reasonably well despite what you might sometimes read on here.

Yes, they seem quite rational.  Face-to-face IELTS testing is still taking place in Khon Kaen and examiners from Bangkok continue to fly there and back to conduct the speaking tests, with no requirement for quarantine or any other checks.

A government spokeswoman said on Friday that the country could see stricter lockdown measures but did not clarify what or when it would take place.

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415933495369633797

 

29 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Kalasin hospital is practically full as I expect are many others in the provinces. The entire public hospital system is bulging at the seams. 

Kalasin is one that caught my attention.

77 cases yesterday. 

I only drove through the joint but struck me a small Back of Bourke type joint.

77 seems a lot? 

25 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

No issue with road checks etc? 

Just Hau Hin to Pattaya zero check? 

Only during the curfew when driving through Bangkok.  Day time travel isn't checked (currently).

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yes, they seem quite rational.  Face-to-face IELTS testing is still taking place in Khon Kaen and examiners from Bangkok continue to fly there and back to conduct the speaking tests, with no requirement for quarantine or any other checks.

Shame about having to close all the schools in Khon Kean as a result

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

A government spokeswoman said on Friday that the country could see stricter lockdown measures but did not clarify what or when it would take place.

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415933495369633797

 

UPDATE: In a delayed briefing,

@oc_ccsa

says that since daily #COVID19 rates still remain high, they *may* need to tighten restrictions even more but NO decision has been made as of now. This comes after a quasi-lockdown is in effect in 10 provinces incl. BK since Monday.

https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1415933469365096449

 

6 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So basically the same numbers due to the same amount of testing. Predictable again but sad for the country and people.

So, you advocate more testing? Who would you test that are not being tested now?

About 30% of people arriving to enter Phuket by road yesterday were refused entry for failing to satisfy the new entry requirements for those coming from the 34 ‘red’ and ‘dark-red’ COVID high-risk provinces, according to local officials https://thephuketnews.com/30-of-arrivals-denied-entry-to-phuket-on-day-1-of-new-requirements-80706.php… #Thailand

 

No vaccine of any quality or volume coming anytime soon. Delays, delays and more delays of any serious plan of action.

This will be months and months before this gets under control. The economic impact is compounding at a faster rate due to the length Thailand has being shut down. Short term measures as in loans and credit cards are gone.

Prayers! 

 

1 minute ago, Hockeybik said:

So, you advocate more testing? Who would you test that are not being tested now?

Lets see, how about starting with this group first and then making our way down a very long list of others.

 

Speaking to MCoT TV, Minister of Labour Suchart Chomklin said that the governor’s office was actively preventing authorities from doing active case findings because people inside the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) would not be able to handle the increase in cases.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29828/ministry-of-labour-says-bma-blocking-covid-19-tests-for-construction-worker-camps/

12 minutes ago, anchadian said:

A government spokeswoman said on Friday that the country could see stricter lockdown measures but did not clarify what or when it would take place.

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415933495369633797

 

Alcohol????? NOOOOOOOOOO! Plenty of people getting done in the dark red zones after curfew. This is how it went last time.