ThailandRyan Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, mommysboy said: 'Does Thailand need AZ anymore? ' You bet it does. Sorry to ask, but what on earth came over you to ask such a crazy question? I believe it was more of a rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: The whole country stood by and allowed him to do it so I don't think he is solely to blame for this mess.Thailand as a nation must shoulder the blame.It's too easy to pin it on one person to absolve the culpability in this and doesn't fix the cause of the problem which is not choosing the most capable to run the country. While i agree with your sentiments 100 %, there are factors involved. The Thai people allowed Prayut to run amok through their Country, - true. But if you ask many Thais why they do nothing to stop this Governments Rape of their County the reply will be " They have Tanks and Guns, and we do not " 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukadadoll Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 hours ago, law ling said: A lot of agony in store for sure. Such a shame: 1. they didn't join COVAX and 2. they didn't order adequate vaxes (and still haven't) The plan here seems to be: politicans are double-vaxed and the rest of you: endure it, and see you at the other end, if you make it. Ah, natural selection - it was once "survival of the fittest", now "survival of the most corrupt" it will be interesting if in a future world only politicians, depots and billionaires remain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mommysboy said: 'Does Thailand need AZ anymore? ' You bet it does. Sorry to ask, but what on earth came over you to ask such a crazy question? It would help if you actually quoted my comment correctly. I did NOT ask -- Does Thailand need AZ ANY more? I did ask -- Does Thailand need AZ more or less than AZ needs Thailand? I think the likely answer is... Thailand needs AZ more than AZ needs Thailand. AZ very likely could choose to pick up their marbles and go play their vaccine game with a more reputable/reliable partner. That was the substance of my prior post, which you somehow managed to totally misquote and misconstrue. Edited July 18, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post utalkin2me Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 Should just open everything. Current policy is worst of all worlds. what does closing the border do?! Covid is in the country. If that had any positive effect, we would not have the delta variant, now would we? So open borders. Open everything. People realize it is serious. Of course maybe waiting until deaths taper a bit could be a smart move, I just contend there is no difference. Open, closed, curfew, no curfew… the same number of people will be infected in the end. Any positive effects lockdowns have is negated by the negative effects the lockdown has on the population. 4 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, utalkin2me said: Should just open everything. Current policy is worst of all worlds. what does closing the border do?! Covid is in the country. If that had any positive effect, we would not have the delta variant, now would we? So open borders. Open everything. People realize it is serious. Of course maybe waiting until deaths taper a bit could be a smart move, I just contend there is no difference. Open, closed, curfew, no curfew… the same number of people will be infected in the end. Any positive effects lockdowns have is negated by the negative effects the lockdown has on the population. Your a tad confused about things it appears and your statements even confuse me as to your motives and agenda. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunpa Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) Well, for sure they can now forget about any reopening plans. Looks like the next 12 months will be a fight to just get people vaccinated. Then comes the possibility of new more aggressive variants and people needing to get re-vaccinated against those. My guess is a possible soft re-opening in 2023, IF they are lucky. One thing for sure… Thailand’s economy is now truly destroyed, as not many Thais will be able to financially handle anymore lockdowns. They had the chance to be far ahead. Now they must live with the mess up. Edited July 18, 2021 by khunpa 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Apart from those deaths at home its also the worrying number of deaths in such a short space of time after being confirmed positive, daily this number seems to be increasing and says to me that people are just not getting testing quickly enough having to wait too long until they are already very sick I think the general health of the nation is not very good, while some live in luxury the average Thai diet is not great.... lots of underlying issues. If Delta gets hold of them then the first few days are critical in getting treatment. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: It is not entirely clear if those restrictions are for all dark red zones, or merely the greater Bangkok area. To be clear, the curfew will be imposed in Chonburi, but the restrictions in Bangkok on sit down dining May not apply in Chonburi, I don’t know. It seem entirely clear to me that it applies to people living in dark red zones.If Chon Buri is a dark red zone (which it is) then these restrictions apply to the people living there.Each province may have additional restrictions of which they will the public. The measures are: ▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary. ▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am. ▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: While i agree with your sentiments 100 %, there are factors involved. The Thai people allowed Prayut to run amok through their Country, - true. But if you ask many Thais why they do nothing to stop this Governments Rape of their County the reply will be " They have Tanks and Guns, and we do not " It's definitely not an easy choice to make but they have to live with their choices or make new ones.Some are able to make the tough decisions and make them quickly and painlessly others it seems must suffer their inability to so.It's just so painful to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The government seems to be totally focused on restrictions with no mention that I can see of procuring more and better vaccines immediately--that is what is needed the most and announcements on vaccine shipments seem to have all gone quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: It's definitely not an easy choice to make but they have to live with their choices or make new ones.Some are able to make the tough decisions and make them quickly and painlessly others it seems must suffer their inability to so.It's just so painful to watch. True words, and yes its painful to watch these people suffer at the Hands of the Gang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Migrant workers are not locked up any more on many of the major sites - if you look past the closed shutters you can see work has restarted at many. Too costly to close down a major project, and common people don't have a stake in shopping mall developments, so they don't stay closed for long. The rich need to continue getting richer for the good of the global economy.???? But on the other hand at least it means the workers are being paid again - so the trickle down economy allows a few crumbs to fall from the table. The point was they are not being tested, despite what goes on behind closed shutters. Besides which it seems like they are still locked in and with little food to me, a report from yesterday: "We went and visited this camp yesterday because of @IIIPeanutbutter's informative thread. The soldier posted at the gates informed us that the workers currently receive one meal every two days from the developer. So, one half a meal per day. Which is of course unacceptable." https://twitter.com/BKK_community/status/1416203007356637184 Edited July 18, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 Believe that when they actually arrive. "BREAKING! Public Health Minister Anuthin: to order 50 million doses of Pfizer vaccines. Me: And when are we gonna get it? 2023 ?" https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416624478679797760 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chivas Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, utalkin2me said: Should just open everything. Current policy is worst of all worlds. what does closing the border do?! Covid is in the country. If that had any positive effect, we would not have the delta variant, now would we? So open borders. Open everything. People realize it is serious. Of course maybe waiting until deaths taper a bit could be a smart move, I just contend there is no difference. Open, closed, curfew, no curfew… the same number of people will be infected in the end. Any positive effects lockdowns have is negated by the negative effects the lockdown has on the population. Thankfully you're not running the show and never will 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phoenix Rising Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: The whole country stood by and allowed him to do it so I don't think he is solely to blame for this mess.Thailand as a nation must shoulder the blame.It's too easy to pin it on one person to absolve the culpability in this and doesn't fix the cause of the problem which is not choosing the most capable to run the country. Choosing?? How does one go about choosing a coup leader? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) From the total 11,397 cases that were found in the past 24 hours: - 8,670 were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities - 2,718 via proactive tests at known clusters - 9 imported cases https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1416629620846194688 Edited July 18, 2021 by anchadian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: The whole country stood by and allowed him to do it so I don't think he is solely to blame for this mess.Thailand as a nation must shoulder the blame.It's too easy to pin it on one person to absolve the culpability in this and doesn't fix the cause of the problem which is not choosing the most capable to run the country. When the leader who declared himself the Csar in sole charge of the Covid fight blatantly stopped entities from procuring vaccines then how is that the nations fault for allowing him to do it. people/companies were threatened and told not to try-it, they did not stand back. The government forced people to back off from entering into negotiations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, anchadian said: NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 660 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (93), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (167), and Si Racha (217). The total cases so far is now 15,375 with 6,308 remaining in care #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416551340600266752 It's not looking good anywhere. Where I live yesterday I was coming out or Macro and saw a large truck with a Ambulance in front of the truck. They took the driver out and was giving him oxygen, while the man was shaking all over, he died in hospital today. But no need to worry the vaccines are coming. Right! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Of the 76 provinces that have reported cases in the past 24 hours, 27 have reported more than 100 cases, 16 have reported between 51-100 cases, 29 have reported between 11-50 cases and 4 have reported between 1-10 cases. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1416631146901774336 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) Starting from Tuesday, there will be 13 provinces in the dark red zones and tougher restrictions: Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chonburi, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon (Source: @NBTWORLDNews) https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1416634917056696326 Edited July 18, 2021 by anchadian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Krisnow said: you guys keep living in fear. the amount of people who died of so called covid is nothing compared to people who die here, in Samui motorbike accidents. i keep being astonished how naive people are, even those who are supposed ge a proper western education. Only 14 road deaths yesterday in the whole of Thailand. Covid deaths was 141. "24 hour road accident report for 17/7/2021: 14 deaths and 1,591 injuries." https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416575963270320130 Edited July 18, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Every day sees an increase its getting scary now how far will it go? .New measures need to be taken and quick bad words but total lock downs seems to be coming for the worst areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, hotchilli said: When the leader who declared himself the Csar in sole charge of the Covid fight blatantly stopped entities from procuring vaccines then how is that the nations fault for allowing him to do it. people/companies were threatened and told not to try-it, they did not stand back. The government forced people to back off from entering into negotiations. Totally agree with that and he also said he would be responsible for his decisions but did any believe him?I also think they should hold him personally responsible but doubt the conviction of Thais to do so,like you say he has guns and tanks and the Thai don't have the will to fight at this (or any other) stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidfan Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 hours ago, smedly said: what about going to immigration which I need to do in 2 weeks Agreed. Online 90days reporting didn't work....just Pending ! Will have to go in person next week...Or?? I'm in Pathum Thani ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Sunday: Since 1 April 374,523 people infected (+9 imported and +11,388 local cases) 3,247 dead +101 116,135 in care 3,464 in ICU and 846 on ventilators 5,726 discharged from care https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1416632240998518785 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 A record high of 11,397 new cases and 116,135 patients in care today. There are also 101 reported deaths - RIP #Thailand ICU/VENTILATORS 15 July: 3,276/839 16 July: 3,367/847 17 July: 3,454/839 18 July: 3,464/846 <— Today https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416633106530852864 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkspeaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 i heard a rumor that there will be extreme restrictions like 24 hour stay at home and only grocery store open 3 days a week?? I hope that's not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koratkarlos Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 If Thailand does not move fast and now I fear the results will resemble what is happening in Indonesia. Please get us some vaccines. I know how to stay at home. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/17/asia/indonesia-covid-second-wave-outbreak-intl-hnk-dst/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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