Popular Post The Cipher Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 I'll add a positive comment to the sea of negativity. This is a good development. Should it have been done sooner? Sure. But it's done now. Hopefully it'll be early Q4. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, wensiensheng said: So the hi so that pushed to the front of the vaccine queue and have already been vaccinated will miss out? Leaving Pfizer for the poor people languishing at the back? Oh the irony. I'd bet a good few quid that when it eventually arrives all the HI-So's will be chirping that they need a Booster Shot ASAP and another few quid that they jump the queue and get it before anyone else ! 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Posts denigrating and calling Chinese vaccines useless and referring to it with derogatory names have been removed. Whilst it may be less effective in certain cases ie Delta strain it is by no means useless. At the end of the day this is a Thai government sponsored vaccine and the forum and or yourself can get in trouble for comments like this so stop it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, gk10012001 said: 20 million doses which I assume means 10 million applications of 2 jabs each, or 10 million people vaccinated. Assuming no does are lost or damaged or degraded during shipment, handling, application, etc. Currently 50 million Thais are not vaccinated. As a contract officer, I point out that saying 4th quarter delivery could mean as late as December 31, 2021. Then quite a while after that before the vaccines could be distributed, and given out. The Pfizer vaccine requires cold storage and shipping, so I would have my doubts that it will be distributed widely all over Thailand due to transportation and facility storage issues. Of course it is possible, and countries have handled the cold storage, but I have my doubts about Thailand. The Moderna vaccines also requires freezing and then refrigeration. The requirement for the Pfizer vaccine have been greatly eased. Now it has to be stored in a freezer at a range of -25C to -15C. A home freezer can do this. Then it can be stored up to a month in a refrigerator at 2C to 8C. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, trainman34014 said: I had my first AZ shot early June and i had the pains down my right leg and behind my neck for just one day. Just laying down and resting and two Paracetamol, plenty of liquid (not beer) and it's over, so nothing to get excited about. My second jab was 4th October but had a message this morning to say brought forward to 6th September, just about 12 weeks after the first. It's a good vaccine. I reckon there's about 25% chance of suffering rather harsh symptoms (yours were mild), so I'd rather go with the Sinovac. Each to his own I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Who will be getting the good stuff ? Front liners got Sinovac , government heads got AZ, do not tell me good stuff will go to everyone else 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 FWIW, yesterday's headline... 50 million more doses of Pfizer vaccine, more Moderna expected to be purchased so the downward trend is alarming. And these are the same folks who've been lying on the quantity and delivery of AZ. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Too little too late. People are just sitting around waiting to die now without hope..The spirit of the people is extinguished never to be rekindled. The damage done by this government and by covid is historical and similar to what was done in Cambodia by the Khymer Rouge. The world can't beat Covid-19. Thailand certainly can't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Too little too late. The death warrant of Thailand is signed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, BestB said: Who will be getting the good stuff ? Front liners got Sinovac , government heads got AZ, do not tell me good stuff will go to everyone else Astrazeneca is the 'good stuff'. Sinovac is good enough. Pfizer is 'good stuff' but not some magic elixir- it has its problems. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, wensiensheng said: So the hi so that pushed to the front of the vaccine queue and have already been vaccinated will miss out? Leaving Pfizer for the poor people languishing at the back? Oh the irony. Hi so will still be at the front of the queue. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 hours ago, keith101 said: It could be December which is very late if so . Could be October, also, but, if it is December it wouldn't be late, it would be on schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, puck2 said: ...... Without revealing the prices ..... Of course, otherwise we could see how much remains in the coffers of the military junta. To work that out you'd have to know how much there is in the coffers now, I doubt that you do! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said: Too little too late. People are just sitting around waiting to die now without hope..The spirit of the people is extinguished never to be rekindled. The damage done by this government and by covid is historical and similar to what was done in Cambodia by the Khymer Rouge. The world can't beat Covid-19. Thailand certainly can't. Yes. If one thing distinguished the Khmer Rouge above all others, it was the brutality of their lockdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Saltire said: Another headline that in a normal country would be good news. The only thing it is, is good news. How is it not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, sqwakvfr said: Also if the contract with Pfizer-Biontech contract is signed now(mid July 2021) then the process of production, delivery, payment, forming a distribution committee, distribution committee planning meetings and then finally deliveries to the vaccination points could mean injections should start in Jan 2022? This would be the best case scenario. No, that would not be the best case scenario, it would be the worst. The best case scenario would be deliveries in October (or earlier, you never know), a few days getting FDA approval here and distribution to vaccination centres immediately after that. That could mean inoculations being given before the end of October. Edited July 20, 2021 by Liverpool Lou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 hours ago, gk10012001 said: 4th quarter delivery could mean as late as December 31, 2021. Then quite a while after that before the vaccines could be distributed, and given out. It is also just as likely to be 1st October. Why do you claim that it would it take "quite a while" to distribute the vaccine, why would it not be distributed as soon as FDA approval is granted (a few days)? What makes you think that Thailand, a tropical country, doesn't have cold storage facilites, do you think that vaccines that are currently being used don't need or get cold storage? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Interesting that one party calls it a contract, and the other party calls it an agreement. A signed agreement would be a contract, that's what contracts are, signed agreements! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, trainman34014 said: I'd bet a good few quid that when it eventually arrives all the HI-So's will be chirping that they need a Booster Shot ASAP and another few quid that they jump the queue and get it before anyone else ! A bit like the equivalent hisos in the US, UK and Europe, then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kynikoi Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Took three months but there it is. Never put that stuff in my body. Pass on all mRNA vaccine especially this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kynikoi Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, placeholder said: Yes. If one thing distinguished the Khmer Rouge above all others, it was the brutality of their lockdowns. So the story goes just not the reality. Pretty incompetent lot from year 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rbkk Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 10.5 weeks from this previous announcement. Criminal. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-to-get-10-to-20-million-doses-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kynikoi Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Too little too late. People are just sitting around waiting to die now without hope..The spirit of the people is extinguished never to be rekindled. The damage done by this government and by covid is historical and similar to what was done in Cambodia by the Khymer Rouge. The world can't beat Covid-19. Thailand certainly can't. This fiasco bears no resemblance to that moment in history. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, kynikoi said: This fiasco bears no resemblance to that moment in history. Sorry. Actually, I read that the Khmer Rouge forced ordinary Cambodian people to double mask! The brutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, kynikoi said: This fiasco bears no resemblance to that moment in history. Sorry. Perhaps not to you and perhaps not yet but the damage and destruction is similar just in slow motion...a multi generation loss as a power elite wilfully destroys the lives of people. The ideology behind the destruction is irrelevant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swimfan Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Australia signed for an additional 40 million in April delivery to commence in October. Original order of 20 million doses is only coming in at 5 million a month. So it is unlikely having left it this late that Thailand will see any significant number of doses delivered this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 By the time it arrives a new variant will have rendered it ineffective. Long term civid will have ruined lives and the economy will never recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Could be October, also, but, if it is December it wouldn't be late, it would be on schedule. Too late to catch up with the variants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said: By the time it arrives a new variant will have rendered it ineffective. Long term civid will have ruined lives and the economy will never recover Give your crystal ball a rest. Better yet, send it to study some economic history. Thailand's economy is not in freefall. It's infrastructure hasn't collapsed nor is it about to. It still has the assets that draw tourists. And as for your ridiculous Khmer Rouge analogies, Cambodia's economy seems to have recovered from a genuine holocaust. Compared to what the Cambodians endured, this is a hiccup. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Too late to catch up with the variants How do you know? Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen, and AZ vaccines are still highly effective against Delta in slowing hospitalizations and reducing deaths.. You got evidence that they won't work against what's coming down the pike? Edited July 20, 2021 by placeholder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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