ASEAN admits UK as dialogue partner despite disagreements

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Ah yes to keep foreigners out.

No, E.U citizens living in the U.K were allowed to stay and no one suggested that they should be forced to leave .

   

[jacko45k]

16 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Its the right wing who hate the country. They voted to damage it via Brexit.

Thank heavens they did......now they get to have an independent voice in Asean... along with their own independence.

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

nobody “voted to leave” the british empire.

not bothered to educate yourselves on Great British achievements then...

empire nations were offered independence (which other countries do that ? right, NONE) which was usually (but not always) accepted because people prefer to rule themselves incompetently & corruptly with great poverty & injustice & genocide (Africa prime example) than be governed fairly & properously by foreigners..... irrational collective human insanity strikes again......

 

tiny childish Brit Haters can always surrender their UK Passport, LEAVE Permanently  & take EU Nationality / Residency  ...... right, thought not.....

[rott]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Six EU states overtake UK Covid vaccination rates as Britain’s rollout slows | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Are the SNats holding us back again.?

[transam]

54 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

lefties hate Britain

How true...

[rott]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

No I was simply correcting your claim that the EU's vaccination program was somehow rubbish.

You honestly believe that the UK will be more important to ASEAN than the EU? Seriously?

Driver shortage is related to Brexit. Ask your mate Mac Mickmanus for details.

 

When Scotland does go independent then I will be returning to an EU country.

Ah yes you dream of a country ruled by Nicoliar and the Friends of Sinn Fein.? 

Yourself and all the other  small-minded will be guaranteed  a job manning the barricaded border. 

Edited August 9, 2021 by rott

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Six EU states overtake UK Covid vaccination rates as Britain’s rollout slows | Coronavirus | The Guardian

If you read the report, you will see that the reason why the U.K is falling behind in vaccinations is because some people refuse to get vaccinated .

   33 % of 18-30 years old choose not to get vaccinated .

The reason why the U.K is falling behind some other Countries in vaccination  rates is because of peoples choice and its nothing to do with Brexit 

[harada]

Comrade Xi won’t be happy. 

[Bruno123]

20 minutes ago, transam said:

How true...

 

You are living where? You love your country so much that you abandoned ship permanently?

 

What is childish is the demonising of each other. It's simply childish name calling. "lefties hate Britain"? Totally idiotic!

 

I think all Brits love their country in their own way and to suggest otherwise is just disgusting.

 

Brexit has definitely not been a positive thing for many people and to pretend otherwise is simply disingenuous.

 

Just read about the effects of Brexit on the North East: https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19471980.prime-minister-boris-johnson-urged-north-east-business-leaders-urgently-tackle-brexit-problems/

 

Aren't these the people whom he claimed would benefit?

 

So instead of throwing insults of left and right, why not use the energy to produce something intelligent instead of the usual extremist arguments?

 

 

[transam]

13 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

 

You are living where? You love your country so much that you abandoned ship permanently?

 

What is childish is the demonising of each other. It's simply childish name calling. "lefties hate Britain"? Totally idiotic!

 

I think all Brits love their country in their own way and to suggest otherwise is just disgusting.

 

Brexit has definitely not been a positive thing for many people and to pretend otherwise is simply disingenuous.

 

Just read about the effects of Brexit on the North East: https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19471980.prime-minister-boris-johnson-urged-north-east-business-leaders-urgently-tackle-brexit-problems/

 

Aren't these the people whom he claimed would benefit?

 

So instead of throwing insults of left and right, why not use the energy to produce something intelligent instead of the usual extremist arguments?

 

 

1.  Are you telling me I should not retire in a location of my choice....?

 

2. Are you telling me Brexit was forced on the UK and not from a citizen's vote....?

 

3. Are you telling me I belong to an extremist organization...?

 

4. Please tell me where I have posted insults left and right...?

 

Go for it.....I am waiting....

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

lefties hate Britain

Nonsense.

 

Those on the left have a vision of how their country should be, that usually means opposition [and in some cases hate] towards the right wing point of view. 

 

The right try to hijack this as being anti country to deflect from the fact there exists different points of view to their own ideas on what the country could be.

Edited August 9, 2021 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonsense.

 

Those on the left have a vision of how their country should be, that usually means opposition [and in some cases hate] to the right wing point of view. 

 

The right try to hijack this as being anti country to deflect from the fact there exists different points of view to their own.

Giving an opinion is hardly "hijacking" , now is it ?

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Giving an opinion is hardly "hijacking" , now is it ?

Saying lefties hate britain is hijacking the debate, implying there is a view that implies love for the country and one that implies hate.

Edited August 9, 2021 by Bluespunk
there/their

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonsense.

 

Those on the left have a vision of how their country should be, that usually means opposition [and in some cases hate] towards the right wing point of view. 

 

The right try to hijack this as being anti country to deflect from the fact there exists different points of view to their own ideas on what the country could be.

The vision of "Brittongrad"......???? 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, transam said:

The vision of "Brittongrad"......???? 

Is there any chance you can post in a manner that makes sense?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Is there any chance you can post in a manner that makes sense?

In your case, no...

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

In your case, no...

Yeah, coherent and well reasoned arguments are tricky aren't they...

Edited August 9, 2021 by Bluespunk

[JonnyF]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

When Scotland does go independent then I will be returning to an EU country.

Don't hold your breath. Most Scots still want to stay in the UK, just as they voted to in 2014. A minority of nationalist extremists doesn't change that fact.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah, right, it's only me that you have problems explaining things to to...

No, you are not the only one.....

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah, coherent and well reasoned arguments are tricky aren't they...

Ah, deleted your original words, hmmmmm....

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

No, you are not the only one.....

That's for sure

Just now, transam said:

Ah, deleted your original words, hmmmmm....

Yep, I felt that a more accurate assessment was required

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, chilly07 said:

Maybe I'll agree when the gbp gets back up to 51 bht as it was before the 'referendum' (Tory lie fest!)

All you care about is getting a few extra Baht from your pension/income .

   *I want to stay in the E.U because I get an extra four Changs a day in Thailand* 

[Lemonltr]

5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Six EU states overtake UK Covid vaccination rates as Britain’s rollout slows | Coronavirus | The Guardian

It's to be expected. So few young people coming forward as older are jabbed already. Public health england daily report :-

[transam]

2 hours ago, chilly07 said:

Maybe I'll agree when the gbp gets back up to 51 bht as it was before the 'referendum' (Tory lie fest!)

The baht crashed in 2010, in 2007 I was getting 69 bht....It fluttered up a bit 2014/15..

[DaveE13]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It was a two month training exercise for the purpose of the UK and USA airforce being able to operate on each others boats , a joint exercise .

  Yes, they would need to practice on a new boat 

I watched them leaving on SKY TV. It was as you say a joint training exercise

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So we showed the Chinese that we still rule the waves by sailing an empty carrier through the south China sea?

Training exercise is just another way of saying borrowed. You think those pilots need training on how to take off and land on a carrier?

Power projection (or force projection or strength projection) is a term used in military and political science to refer to the capacity of a state to deploy and sustain forces outside its territory. This ability is a crucial element of a state's power in international relations.

[candide]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do you mind and stop butting in . 

This is a private discussion between ASEAN and the U.K .

Now that the E.U shackles are off , the U.K is out in the World making new friends , along with showing the Chinese our new aircraft carriers and letting them know who still rules the waves 

What new friends? The EU is full dialogue partner since 1977! Actually, it is mentioned in the OP that being a former EU member is a strong argument for admitting UK as dialogue partner. ????

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

nobody “voted to leave” the british empire.

not bothered to educate yourselves on Great British achievements then...

empire nations were offered independence (which other countries do that ? right, NONE) which was usually (but not always) accepted because people prefer to rule themselves incompetently & corruptly with great poverty & injustice & genocide (Africa prime example) than be governed fairly & properously by foreigners..... irrational collective human insanity strikes again......

 

tiny childish Brit Haters can always surrender their UK Passport, LEAVE Permanently  & take EU Nationality / Residency  ...... right, thought not.....

Right so how many have asked to come back then?

[Rookiescot]

13 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Power projection (or force projection or strength projection) is a term used in military and political science to refer to the capacity of a state to deploy and sustain forces outside its territory. This ability is a crucial element of a state's power in international relations.

The fact that it was Americans flying off the carrier which was being escorted by US ships and submarines no doubt looks impressive to the Chinese?

There was even a Dutch ship escorting the carrier because the Royal Navy did not have enough assets to do it on its own.

[Rookiescot]

51 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Don't hold your breath. Most Scots still want to stay in the UK, just as they voted to in 2014. A minority of nationalist extremists doesn't change that fact.

So nothing to worry about holding another referendum then.