Video: Police deny shooting with live round - film shows shot and sound coming from Din Daeng police station

[webfact]

 

Sanook published a video of a policeman apparently shooting from the Din Daeng police station.

 

The chief of the station in downtown Bangkok said his men were only using rubber bullets to prevent further trouble.

 

He said he was preparing a defamation case against the poster who claimed it was a live round, reported Daily News later last night.

 

 

 

Sanook reported that Ruam Katanyu rescue foundation were called after a man was shot in the back of the head outside the police station about 8.30 pm.

 

It was not known if the two incidents were connected.

 

The Thai male was taken to Rathawithi Hospital where he was found to have no pulse.

 

He was revived later in the evening and had emergency surgery. 

 

A 14 year old also suffered an injury to his right shoulder, they also reported without elaborating on what the injury was.

 

Protesters had orginally intended to go to the prime minister's residence but marched to government house instead and disbanded at 6 pm.

 

However violence flared at Din Daeng police station later in the evening where water cannon, rubber bullets and tear gas were deployed. 

 

Picture: Daily News

 

Din Daeng station chief Pol Col Ratthachai Sriwichai said that he was in the area of the police station and live rounds were not used.

 

His men only had rubber bullets and barricades to prevent an escalation of trouble. 

 

He seemed to indicate that he had seen the video and thought that was a rubber bullet being fired. 

 

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[bobandyson]

Heading is wrong. How can anyone determine the direction of sound from filmed footage?

[Whale]

17 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said he was preparing a defamation case against the poster who claimed it was a live round, reported Daily News later last night.

Maybe his time would be better spent catching criminals, corrupt officials and stopping serious crime so as to try and install some confidence in the public at large about the police?

[robblok]

GF had to pass ding Daeng yesterday. Protesters where throwing explosives over her car to the police. They were using passing cars as cover while the police was using laser targeting from their guns on protesters. So protesters would crouch, then when a car passed (police was on the other side of the road) stand up and lop their explosives (probably ping pong bombs) at the police. 

 

The GF said it was a scarey situation hoping the police would not fire and the protesters would not hit her car. This is going into the wrong direction. I am ok with the protests but its stupid for them to start with violence. The police have far better toys.

 

IMHO if your throwing explosives / fireworks at the police you should not be surprised if you get shot. Keep it peaceful otherwise the government will respond with their own violence and they are much better at it.

[tracker1]

The chief of the station in downtown Bangkok said his men were only using rubber bullets to prevent further trouble. He seemed to indicate that he had seen the video and thought that was a rubber bullet being fired. Thought Hmmmm ?

[tonray]

Rubber bullets are not meant to be used for head shots ! They can be justs as fatal as real bullets when fired at someone's head.

[EVENKEEL]

"The Thai male was taken to Rathawithi Hospital where he was found to have no pulse.""

 

"He was revived later in the evening and had emergency surgery." 

 

JHC, hell of an amulet.

 

 

[Wiggy]

1 minute ago, tonray said:

Rubber bullets are not meant to be used for head shots ! They can be justs as fatal as real bullets when fired at someone's head.

It was all a misaiming. 

[RJRS1301]

Please note that a large number of people in South Africa were killed or maimed by rubber bullets during the riots for freedom there.

[harada]

A rubber “bullet” also referred to as a Baton round, some had a steel core.

Edited August 17, 2021 by harada

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, bobandyson said:

Heading is wrong. How can anyone determine the direction of sound from filmed footage?

The camera certainly won't detect the direction of the shot, but the person behind it will have directional hearing won't he. He films a shooter protrude from the window, he hears a bang from the direction of the window and then the shooter withdraws.

 

What other plausible explanation can there possibly be?

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, tonray said:

Rubber bullets are not meant to be used for head shots ! They can be justs as fatal as real bullets when fired at someone's head.

International guidelines are to aim at the lower body.

Looks like the police are just poor shots?

[JeffersLos]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The Thai male was taken to Rathawithi Hospital where he was found to have no pulse.

 

He was revived later in the evening

When they got round to it?

 

After their somtam dinner?

[Antonymous]

15 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

International guidelines are to aim at the lower body.

Looks like the police are just poor shots?

Hard enough to hit only the lower body of a moving target from ground level, but firing from an elevated position, very much harder.

 

The police should not have been firing on protesters from that position, if they had any consideration for not fatally or seriously injuring them.

 

That said, I am saddened to see some of the protesters using violence. This only incites a stronger reaction and it does not endear the Thai public to their cause.

[Rimmer]

A way over the top derogatory comment has been removed

[GroveHillWanderer]

6 hours ago, bobandyson said:

Heading is wrong. How can anyone determine the direction of sound from filmed footage?

It's only partly wrong - it can't absolutely, unequivocally determine the direction of the sound but it does appear to show a weapon being fired from within the police station by someone in what appears to be a police uniform and then there is a sound consistent with the weapon being fired from that location.

 

I don't know enough about weapons to say if it's possible to tell what kind of firearm it was - whether it was one using live ammunition or a baton round.

[snoop1130]

Thai protester comatose with bullet lodged in head after clashes

 

Demonstrators attend a protest over the government's handling of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic, in Bangkok, Thailand, August 16, 2021. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A Thai anti-government protester is in a coma with a bullet lodged in his head, a hospital said on Tuesday, as police denied use of live ammunition to disperse demonstrations against the country's prime minister.

 

A 20-year-old man was rushed to hospital on Monday with a gunshot wound to his neck and needed reviving, Bangkok's Ratchawithi hospital said in a statement.

 

He was now in a coma and an X-ray examination showed a bullet lodged close to his brain, it said.

 

At least six people were injured in clashes between the protesters and police on Monday https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/clashes-thailand-pressure-builds-pm-over-coronavirus-crisis-2021-08-16 near the residence of Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, Bangkok's emergency service said.

 

It was the sixth time in the past 10 days that police used tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannon to disperse demonstrations, which have mounted against Prayuth over his handling of the country's COVID-19 epidemic.

 

Another demonstration was planned for later on Tuesday.

 

A 14-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound on the shoulder, said a voluntary paramedic working with the protesters.

 

Demonstrations have gained momentum in recent weeks as groups who sought Prayuth's removal last year have returned, drawing broader support from people angered by a worsening coronavirus situation.

 

Thailand has recorded over 948,000 coronavirus cases, the vast majority of those since April, and reported a record 239 deaths on Tuesday.

 

Police said they would investigate the violence, adding officers used non-lethal means to maintain law and order, because all forms of public gatherings were banned under coronavirus restrictions.

 

"The police did not use real guns," Bangkok police chief Pakapong Pongpetra told reporters.

 

Thirteen people were arrested on Monday. More than 150 protesters have been charged over demonstrations since July.

 

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[RJRS1301]

1 minute ago, snoop1130 said:

"The police did not use real guns," Bangkok police chief Pakapong Pongpetra told reporters.

Pretend police, with pretend guns.

Is that what he is claiming?

Please >>>>>

[impulse]

9 hours ago, bobandyson said:

Heading is wrong. How can anyone determine the direction of sound from filmed footage?

If you have someone on video pointing a gun, with a muzzle flash and a little smoke coming out of the gun, it's a good bet that's the direction the sound you recorded is coming from.

 

[crazykopite]

I have to question the use of rubber bullets they should only be used as a last resort .

[MrJ2U]

Thai police rotten to the core.

 

 

[Gottfrid]

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The police did not use real guns," Bangkok police chief Pakapong Pongpetra told reporters

Still they find a bullet in the hospital.

[Rookiescot]

Baton rounds or rubber bullets if you will are supposed to be bounced off the road in front of the protestors so they come back up and hit the legs.

The whole point of them is to be non lethal.

 

[ericthai]

2 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Thai police rotten to the core.

 

 

Not only the police!

[Dont confuse me]

A Thai anti-government protester is in a coma with a bullet lodged in his head, a hospital said on Tuesday, as police denied use of live ammunition to disperse demonstrations against the country's prime minister.

 

Either the hospital is lying or mistaken or God forgive me even suggesting that the Police are lying!

 

But there's a man described as a demonstrator in a hospital,  in a coma with a bullet lodged near his brain.

 

No doubt this won't get much more coverage if it does I wouldn't be surprised if the almighty leader will brand it as fake news!

[impulse]

3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The police did not use real guns," Bangkok police chief Pakapong Pongpetra told reporters

Still they find a bullet in the hospital.

There's always the possibility of other shooters besides the police.  Wouldn't be the first time one side or the other shot someone trying to make it look like the other guys did it.

 

[Andycoops]

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

International guidelines are to aim at the lower body.

Looks like the police are just poor shots?

Not to mention poor at everything else to do with lawful enforcement of international standards of policing.

[rtco]

Remove the bullet and see if it came from a police issue weapon

[RJRS1301]

21 minutes ago, rtco said:

Remove the bullet and see if it came from a police issue weapon

Removing the bullet may well cause further trauma, sometimes it is not possible to remove without causing death to the victim.

Reality is he may die, then retrieval could occur 

[mrfill]

11 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Baton rounds or rubber bullets if you will are supposed to be bounced off the road in front of the protestors so they come back up and hit the legs.

The whole point of them is to be non lethal.

 

And, as we know, Thais always follow the instructions to the letter ....