Fifteen people arrested in Pattaya restaurant after police raid, were allegedly drinking alcohol and violating Covid-19 rules

[Danderman123]

How to hire an attorney if the police arrest me for having a beer with someone in my condo? Is there a bail process? 

 

Asking for a friend. 

[bang saen guy]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

How to hire an attorney if the police arrest me for having a beer with someone in my condo? Is there a bail process? 

 

Asking for a friend. 

As long as you do not appear to be enjoying yourself you should be ok

[richard_smith237]

Last night a Police Lieutenant came into the restaurant I was eating at (with my family and friends).

 

I’d had one beer with dinner and finished the beer about 10mins before he entered the restaurant. 

 

As fate would have it after 1 beer I felt like switching to water - I wonder if he’d have tried to shake me down / and / or the restaurant, should I have had a bottle of beer remaining on the table or had a second beer in front of me. 

 

 

Some of those on other tables (2 or 3) had also had a beers (that I could see), but they too had either finished their meals and left the restaurant, or no longer had a beer on their table, perhaps fortunate. 

 

 

What was the policeman doing walking into a restaurant and checking ??? - he was obviously checking to see if people were drinking booze, why?.... shakedown opportunity.... 

 

The way he walked in full of ‘authority’ looking to find those guilty of the heinous crime of having a beer with their dinner.  He came to our table and asked our kids if they were vaccinated !!!!.... Idiot !!! we had to tell him that kids can’t get vaccinated.

 

The booze ban in restaurants is utterly moronic it hands over ’shakedown power’ to idiots. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

The booze ban in restaurants is utterly moronic it hands over ’shakedown power’ to idiots. 

Only if they break the rule..... 

Fancy asking if the kids were vaccinated.... foolish man.

[NanLaew]

On 9/23/2021 at 5:20 PM, richard_smith237 said:

But... you have both [NanLeaw and Rob] mentioned bars and nightclubs - these are specific entertainment venues where people are mobile and social interaction is the objective, social isolation is avoided. 

And the fifteen people arrested in a Pattaya shop house were doing what now?

 

People simply cannot be trusted to act sensibly; not all of them anyway. For every genuine diner who wants a beer or a glass of wine with their meal, there will be half-a-dozen who are only there to have drink (or six). There are the patrons that will order food and then hang about for a few hours afterwards drinking. Then there's the non-confrontational business owner who doesn't want to interrupt these 'guests' lest they get all arsey. Arseyness increases exponentially with the units of alcohol imbibed. These idiots are willfully flaunting a legal restraint on their behavior for reasons already been backed by scientific and medical evidence. It's not an arbitrary suspension of anyone's civil liberties. Orwellian or otherwise.

 

Therefore the path of least resistance for governments and business owners is to TEMPORARILY REMOVE the temptation. Until there's a enduring trend that the scientific and medical community globally has a very, very firm handle on this coronavirus, gurning about being unable to have a Chang or a Chablis with dinner is just that, gurning.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

What was the policeman doing walking into a restaurant and checking ??? - he was obviously checking to see if people were drinking booze, why?.... shakedown opportunity.... 

You need to ask? Seriously?

 

What do you think is the best way to avoid this law breaking that you only see as a "shakedown opportunity"?

[jazzdog32095]

21 hours ago, 9KPhalak said:

Is that all they were doing?  And they got arrested?  Ridiculous!

They blatantly conspired to break the law. A law the were all aware of, book 'em Dano 

[jazzdog32095]

21 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You need to ask? Seriously?

 

What do you think is the best way to avoid this law breaking that you only see as a "shakedown opportunity"?

How do you know that. I drove down soi 7 last night around 7pm, hardly any lights on. Not a bar or restaurant on the soi one could not see inside if 13 people were drinking. These were not a collection of the best and brightest we're talking about.

[ChaiyaTH]

Who would have ever believed it when you said ''Its easier to get drunk in Kuala Lumpur than Pattaya''

[NanLaew]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Who would have ever believed it when you said ''Its easier to get drunk in Kuala Lumpur than Pattaya''

It's not about getting pished though. It's all about being denied 'the inalienable right' to have a beer or wine with dinner.

 

Isn't it?

[jazzdog32095]

46 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

And the fifteen people arrested in a Pattaya shop house were doing what now?

 

People simply cannot be trusted to act sensibly; not all of them anyway. For every genuine diner who wants a beer or a glass of wine with their meal, there will be half-a-dozen who are only there to have drink (or six). There are the patrons that will order food and then hang about for a few hours afterwards drinking. Then there's the non-confrontational business owner who doesn't want to interrupt these 'guests' lest they get all arsey. Arseyness increases exponentially with the units of alcohol imbibed. These idiots are willfully flaunting a legal restraint on their behavior for reasons already been backed by scientific and medical evidence. It's not an arbitrary suspension of anyone's civil liberties. Orwellian or otherwise.

 

Therefore the path of least resistance for governments and business owners is to TEMPORARILY REMOVE the temptation. Until there's a enduring trend that the scientific and medical community globally has a very, very firm handle on this coronavirus, gurning about being unable to have a Chang or a Chablis with dinner is just that, gurning.

According to Worldometer Thailand is leading the West by a huge margin when it comes to limiting Covid-19 deaths. Steps taken in light of a delay in vaccinations obviously have been effective. Social spacing, closing restaurants, bars and public alcohol consumption all have been the backbone of the fight against Covid. And it has worked in spite of the late vaccination roll out. Job well done Thailand.  Facts are stubborn things. Disagree ? Back it up with verifiable facts and not BS spin.

 

  

 DEATHS PER 100,000

*************************************************THAILAND                           22 

USA                                     204

UK                                        199

FRANCE                               178

GERMANY                            111   

ITALY                                    215

SPAIN                                    184

NETHERLANDS                    106

BELGIUM                               224

GREECE                                 144

[The Hammer2021]

But the soi 5 Pratumnak bust isn't mentioned

[The Hammer2021]

These busts are bullying nonsense

[jazzdog32095]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Last night a Police Lieutenant came into the restaurant I was eating at (with my family and friends).

 

I’d had one beer with dinner and finished the beer about 10mins before he entered the restaurant. 

 

As fate would have it after 1 beer I felt like switching to water - I wonder if he’d have tried to shake me down / and / or the restaurant, should I have had a bottle of beer remaining on the table or had a second beer in front of me. 

 

 

Some of those on other tables (2 or 3) had also had a beers (that I could see), but they too had either finished their meals and left the restaurant, or no longer had a beer on their table, perhaps fortunate. 

 

 

What was the policeman doing walking into a restaurant and checking ??? - he was obviously checking to see if people were drinking booze, why?.... shakedown opportunity.... 

 

The way he walked in full of ‘authority’ looking to find those guilty of the heinous crime of having a beer with their dinner.  He came to our table and asked our kids if they were vaccinated !!!!.... Idiot !!! we had to tell him that kids can’t get vaccinated.

 

The booze ban in restaurants is utterly moronic it hands over ’shakedown power’ to idiots. 

 

’shakedown power’ to idiots 

Seems to be very effect in the war against covid.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Last night a Police Lieutenant came into the restaurant I was eating at (with my family and friends).

 

I’d had one beer with dinner and finished the beer about 10mins before he entered the restaurant. 

 

As fate would have it after 1 beer I felt like switching to water - I wonder if he’d have tried to shake me down / and / or the restaurant, should I have had a bottle of beer remaining on the table or had a second beer in front of me. 

 

 

Some of those on other tables (2 or 3) had also had a beers (that I could see), but they too had either finished their meals and left the restaurant, or no longer had a beer on their table, perhaps fortunate. 

 

 

What was the policeman doing walking into a restaurant and checking ??? - he was obviously checking to see if people were drinking booze, why?.... shakedown opportunity.... 

 

The way he walked in full of ‘authority’ looking to find those guilty of the heinous crime of having a beer with their dinner.  He came to our table and asked our kids if they were vaccinated !!!!.... Idiot !!! we had to tell him that kids can’t get vaccinated.

 

The booze ban in restaurants is utterly moronic it hands over ’shakedown power’ to idiots. 

 

'' shake power to idiots'' seems to be a very effective too used against the idiots to save their lives

  1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

And the fifteen people arrested in a Pattaya shop house were doing what now?

 

People simply cannot be trusted to act sensibly; not all of them anyway. For every genuine diner who wants a beer or a glass of wine with their meal, there will be half-a-dozen who are only there to have drink (or six). There are the patrons that will order food and then hang about for a few hours afterwards drinking. Then there's the non-confrontational business owner who doesn't want to interrupt these 'guests' lest they get all arsey. Arseyness increases exponentially with the units of alcohol imbibed. These idiots are willfully flaunting a legal restraint on their behavior for reasons already been backed by scientific and medical evidence. It's not an arbitrary suspension of anyone's civil liberties. Orwellian or otherwise.

 

Therefore the path of least resistance for governments and business owners is to TEMPORARILY REMOVE the temptation. Until there's a enduring trend that the scientific and medical community globally has a very, very firm handle on this coronavirus, gurning about being unable to have a Chang or a Chablis with dinner is just that, gurning.

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According to Worldometer Thailand is leading the West by a huge margin when it comes to limiting Covid-19 deaths. Steps taken in light of a delay in vaccinations obviously have been effective. Social spacing, closing restaurants, bars and public alcohol consumption all have been the backbone of the fight against Covid. And it has worked in spite of the late vaccination roll out. Job well done Thailand.  Facts are stubborn things. Disagree ? Back it up with verifiable facts and not BS spin.

 

  

 DEATHS PER 100,000 SINCE THE BEGINNING OF COVID-19

 

***THAILAND                           22 

USA                                     204

UK                                        199

FRANCE                               178

GERMANY                            111   

ITALY                                    215

SPAIN                                    184

NETHERLANDS                    106

BELGIUM                               224

GREECE                                 144

 

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[jazzdog32095]

14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

But the soi 5 Pratumnak bust isn't mentioned

Must have been good law enforcement as opposed to '' shackdown of idiots "

Edited September 25, 2021 by jazzdog32095
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[jazzdog32095]

52 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

'the inalienable right'

Unalienable Rights are Rights that are the natural rights of all men. When government does take action against a particular right, it may only do so to the extent necessary to address a genuine concern for public safety.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Who would have ever believed it when you said ''Its easier to get drunk in Kuala Lumpur than Pattaya''

The BIB are running riot.

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

What was the policeman doing walking into a restaurant and checking ??? - he was obviously checking to see if people were drinking booze, why?.... shakedown opportunity.... 

You need to ask? Seriously?

 

What do you think is the best way to avoid this law breaking that you only see as a "shakedown opportunity"?

 

What do I think is the best way to avoid this law breaking?

 

Answer: By not creating moronic laws in the first place - IF it is determined that restaurants can open and serve food, people having a beer with dinner presents no additional risk. 

 

Your comments (in an earlier reply) seem to imply that no one can be trusted to simply have a few beers with dinner and that a 6 to 1 ratio exists where people will get crazily drunk - thats an exaggeration. 

 

 

I understand why bars and clubs cannot open - their purpose is different. 

But, IMO, banning booze in a restaurant is nothing than an ill thought out knee-jerk and puritanical regulation which really doesn’t do anything other than present an opportunity to the police. 

 

 

How many people in restaurants have you really ever seen behaving in a way that would increase risk of Covid-19 transmission?

 

 

I do understand your points (in an earlier reply), I also understand why the government have made this decision. I just disagree that the reasons are sound and of critical thought. I suspect that more-likely booze was just an easy target... 

 

 

[taxin]

They should go to Bamboo Beach Bar in Naklua, there was easily 100+ people in there on Friday night, place was rammed, standing room only.

[Mac Mickmanus]

14 minutes ago, taxin said:

They should go to Bamboo Beach Bar in Naklua, there was easily 100+ people in there on Friday night, place was rammed, standing room only.

Its highly likely that they will be going there quite soon, now that you have publicised it 

[papa al]

On 9/23/2021 at 12:40 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Meanwhile, I had 13 people in my house for dinner last week…  is that ok ?? Is it only frowned upon if we had wine & beer ? 

also rum

[taxin]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Its highly likely that they will be going there quite soon, now that you have publicised it 

So you think the BIB don’t know about it already ? Haha 

[In Full Agreement]

23 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

But the soi 5 Pratumnak bust isn't mentioned

 

Name of restaurant please.

[hackjam]

On 9/23/2021 at 12:40 PM, richard_smith237 said:

This is becoming more like an

Islamic Fundamentalist State by the day. 
 

Your not wrong.

Nonsense this place now, ever hear those loud speakers all around outskirts of Pattaya, blasting out Government propaganda 4 or 5 times a day, similar to something from a place like North Korea.  

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, taxin said:

They should go to Bamboo Beach Bar in Naklua, there was easily 100+ people in there on Friday night, place was rammed, standing room only.

And now they might well do so!

[NanLaew]

On 9/25/2021 at 4:45 PM, jazzdog32095 said:

On 9/25/2021 at 3:52 PM, NanLaew said:

'the inalienable right'

Unalienable Rights are Rights that are the natural rights of all men. When government does take action against a particular right, it may only do so to the extent necessary to address a genuine concern for public safety.

I was being facetious (the quotation marks being the big clue here). In these woke times, pretty much everyone who feels in the least bit slighted claims that it's their 'inalienable right' not to be slighted. Note the quotation marks (again). There are those that loudly profess to feel the slight of others that they see as being slighted as well despite those others paying no mind to any of it.

 

PS: It's inalienable and not unalienable.

[NanLaew]

On 9/26/2021 at 3:29 PM, taxin said:

They should go to Bamboo Beach Bar in Naklua, there was easily 100+ people in there on Friday night, place was rammed, standing room only.

How's the 'shopping' there BTW?

[The Hammer2021]

On 9/26/2021 at 2:29 PM, taxin said:

They should go to Bamboo Beach Bar in Naklua, there was easily 100+ people in there on Friday night, place was rammed, standing room only.

It's already been raided

[The Hammer2021]

On 9/26/2021 at 3:01 PM, In Full Agreement said:

 

Name of restaurant please.

If you don't know you are not supposed to know but are just being nosy

[In Full Agreement]

11 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

If you don't know you are not supposed to know but are just being nosy

 

And just why is anyone not supposed to know?