Popular Post NoshowJones Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 23 hours ago, Cake Monster said: No ! The wording specifically says the charge is for " Foreign Tourists " Or at least thats how I have read it. In most other Countries you pay for these kind of things within the cost of your Air Ticket Etc Expats are not tourists, but I bet they will have to pay. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, possum1931 said: Who should be begging the people to come? The unelected PM and his generals? They have made all their money and are still making it, so why should they care? Well if he wants to stay in power he needs the people to not be homeless and starving. The Thai people have been incredibly patient with his inept, illegal, immoral administration but even they have a breaking point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 A troll post and a reply have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 9:21 AM, bkkcanuck8 said: I cannot see the ticket issuers for airlines having the option to collect taxes by nationality... I expect if you arrive, it will be embedded in the ticket price. It will be collected by machine before immigration and apply to foreigners only. Foreigners will have to present the stub at the immigration counter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 19 hours ago, pjmorton said: Seems to me if the government and not just the press are calling it a "Tourist Entry Fee", then Thai citizens would probably be exempt, but we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. and returning expats? They are not tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, sirineou said: It will kill tourism!! Who can afford to pay $15 extra to come to Thailand. Mass tourism is already dead mate, did you not get the memo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 18 hours ago, 2 is 1 said: We are all millionaire here so what you are talking about! Ask Neeraham , he has over 100000 bitcoin and counting! BTW hes half Thai but want spend time whit us, who are only one million ???? Neeranam is Scottish, not half Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Well if he wants to stay in power he needs the people to not be homeless and starving. The Thai people have been incredibly patient with his inept, illegal, immoral administration but even they have a breaking point. They will probably vote this mob back into power again. Never, ever underestimate the level of stupidity here. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Mass tourism is already dead mate, did you not get the memo? Sadly no one CC me anymore.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorp13 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I remember when they used to have this fee then it got buried in the plane ticket. Now it's back and on top of that. Way to say "Welcome Back" Thailand LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, skorp13 said: I remember when they used to have this fee then it got buried in the plane ticket. Now it's back and on top of that. Way to say "Welcome Back" Thailand LOL It was an Airport Tax - 500 baht for International and 30 baht for Domestic departures. It was a proper pain in the backside for those who’d spent their last lot of local currency on the way to the airport. As you wrote, it became buried in the tickets. Lots of countries have a ‘Arrival Tax’... on the surface I have no objection to this scheme and think ‘on the surface’ it is a good idea, but I just do not see any way that those in positions of power will siphon from the trough. There is a consistent and relentless greed of those in positions of decision making power to create schemes which generate cashflow - their sole intention is not for benefit, but for profit... its all masked up in theatre and utter lies. The additional facet of this of course is the optics.... Desperate for more tourists Thailand doesn’t even attempt to highlight its disregard and greed in charging them more as soon as they step off a plane. Thailand needs to start ‘promoting itself properly’ with ‘welcome back’ tourists schemes, discounts, promotions, free taxi rides from the airports (as an example).. anything like this to bring people back and spending in the local shops, stores, massage places, restaurants, cafes, guest houses, hotels etc etc... Edited October 6, 2021 by richard_smith237 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: It was an Airport Tax - 500 baht for International and 30 baht for Domestic departures. It was a proper pain in the backside for those who’d spent their last lot of local currency on the way to the airport. As you wrote, it became buried in the tickets. Lots of countries have a ‘Arrival Tax’... on the surface I have no objection to this scheme and think ‘on the surface’ it is a good idea, but I just do not see any way that those in positions of power will siphon from the trough. There is a consistent and relentless greed of those in positions of decision making power to create schemes which generate cashflow - their sole intention is not for benefit, but for profit... its all masked up in theatre and utter lies. The additional facet of this of course is the optics.... Desperate for more tourists Thailand doesn’t even attempt to highlight its disregard and greed in charging them more as soon as they step off a plane. Thailand needs to start ‘promoting itself properly’ with ‘welcome back’ tourists schemes, discounts, promotions, free taxi rides from the airports (as an example).. anything like this to bring people back and spending in the local shops, stores, massage places, restaurants, cafes, guest houses, hotels etc etc... During covid there has been a whole new set of travellers come of age. These are people of the present not the past and they may well fancy a trip to Thailand. 500 baht is not going to influence their decision in the slightest, they are looking for the Thailand experience. It is really sad that there are those who continually run Thailand down, usually people who must have long forgotten their first visit and the jaw dropping newness. Tourists will still choose Thailand, despite the best efforts from those for whom it has apparently lost its allure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Tonypandy said: If its done in the price of ticketing then Thais would also be charged, foreign airlines are not going to carryout this extra work and be expected to determine between foreign and Thai customers GDS do have the ability to use the nationality field as a base of the fare calculation algorithm. There are some countries whose carriers offer fares that are nationality restricted - and that’s how it’s done. IF you populate a passport of that country’s (or an eligible country if more than one), then the restricted fare of X will populate. If you use a passport of other non-eligible countries, then the fare of Y will populate. Another way they could do this is to (outsource) set up their own freestanding online payment channel and make all non-exempt people use the payment channel to pre-pay the tax/fee. Once paid, a receipt is emailed/SMSed to you bearing your name/passport. That receipt would then be required at arrival - and failure to have it at arrival could then trigger a penalty of X baht. In totality, I still think that baking it into the fare is the best/easiest way as that essentially keeps the RTG out of the day-to-day management of it; the management gets shifted (including most of the costs) to the various airlines, the major GDSs and the major payment channels like ARC (Airline Reporting Corporation) and UATP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, 473geo said: During covid there has been a whole new set of travellers come of age. These are people of the present not the past and they may well fancy a trip to Thailand. 500 baht is not going to influence their decision in the slightest, they are looking for the Thailand experience. It is really sad that there are those who continually run Thailand down, usually people who must have long forgotten their first visit and the jaw dropping newness. Tourists will still choose Thailand, despite the best efforts from those for whom it has apparently lost its allure. i agree.. While no one is going to “like” a new tax… I don’t think that a 500 tax/fee is going to make any measurable difference between someone choosing another destination and not Thailand. ESPECIALLY IF it’s hard baked into fares… Those that even know about it (which i’ll bet will be the minority to begin with) may grouse and complain; but in the end, i would be stunned if it did have any measurable impact on the number of arrivals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevc Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 It's like when the airport's closed, the very day they re opened they halved the land crossing visa from 30 to 15 days. It makes you wonder if they really want tourists to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightbirdKoChang Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 8:50 AM, tonray said: How many 500 baht tourists per Ferrarri ? Ferrarri?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, NightbirdKoChang said: Ferrarri?! The extra 'r' is an option installed at the dealer... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2554 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 A hoax. No reliable source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 8:45 AM, bkkcanuck8 said: The funny thing is that we see the 700 baht departure tax + the 300 baht entry tax now (total 1000) as something outrageously Thai... but it is quite common for different countries to have these hidden fees that most people never see and never know about... (just the names differ). Australia has a $45AUD tax for international flights out, Canada has up to a $45 Airport Improvement Fee (depending on airport you exit from), UK has a fee that ranges from £13 and £194 (depending on class etc.). If it makes you happy the Thai government could just call it a 1,000baht movement fee like Australia does (and the details of what it is for are buried in the budgets). Quite. But in these countries the bureaucracy is beholden to the rule for of law, even if the western pollies are a pack of mongrels, not much above the clown show here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraburi121 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hopefully not another task at the airport where you have to wait in line at some kiosk. Remember the days at Don Muang showing up with a hangover and forgetting to get the proof of departure tax only to be sent back to get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said: Thailand's answer to a failing business - bump up the prices. ???? They are being educated by masters in extortion. From Nov 1st at Heathrow it will will cost £5 to drop someone off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 3:11 AM, ThailandRyan said: Does this mean even Thais who reside elsewhere but come back as tourists to visit family? Does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 16 hours ago, possum1931 said: Expats are not tourists, but I bet they will have to pay. I would expect the travel agents (or whatever ticketing entities are called these days) will have a simple algorithm like: If passenger does not hold Thai passport add 500b If they want to make a show of accommodating foreigners of non-tourist visa status they will have a process for refunding the fee: anticipate a lot of forms to fill out, multiple photocopies of anything printed, and possibly a (non-refundable) admin fee. And then a very loooooooooooooong waiting period. It might arrive in time for the wedding of your now infant child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: It will be collected by machine before immigration and apply to foreigners only. Foreigners will have to present the stub at the immigration counter. I can't see that working, what currency would that be, and card payment can also be a problem. More likely to be like before, on departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 10:54 AM, StevieAus said: Easy to retaliate don’t leave the country or dont bother coming back for gods sake its only 500 baht 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Word is you can be exempted this fee on arrival if you buy the immigration official a ladydrink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mberbae Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 And WHO is going to monitor where the money goes ? Not Khun Rolex, I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, sandyf said: They are being educated by masters in extortion. From Nov 1st at Heathrow it will will cost £5 to drop someone off. That’s been the case in Manchester for a couple of years and something similar in Sydney where I am from for probably 15 years both drop off and pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Bday Prang said: or dont bother coming back for gods sake its only 500 baht I was only being facetious towards the poster, compared to most countries most things here are still pretty cheap, there are continual complaints on this site yet they never leave to return to their utopian homeland, I am happy and will be remaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) He did the math in the BBN article saying that 1 million tourists would mean 500 million baht. and who said he wasn't smart?? Actually this is a great way to get there Chinese to pay for the Corona Virus leak to the world, so every country in the world should level a $50 in/out tax on the Chinese............ Edited October 7, 2021 by TunnelRat69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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