2 hours ago, DrPhibes said:

+1 on the post also.

4 families from US that want to come stay with US in C Mai and travel Thailand, none are coming until there are no restrictions if vaccinated and the whole COE 72hr Covid test thing is gone.  Who wants to make expensive reservations for an entire family and then have to fight the airlines for a refund if one member of the family tests positive (but not sick) and then have to find something else to do since you already put in your vacation request at work.  You would not test for the flu and that is what this has become, the new flu (although a bit tougher) where each year we will go get our flu/Covid shot and hope they picked the right strains for that season.  That is what is going to be the new normal, get used to it.

You’re right. Everyone needs to adapt and just get on with it. 
10 deaths /million of population over the past week does not justify the hoops, closed schools especially as Thai families are suffering from being jobless and penniless. 
 

Restrictions are changing but they need to be done quicker. 
 

I still expect there to be further relaxations in time for the main holiday period over Xmas / new year which was always the main goal. 
 

Thailand

74,822

78,862

-5%

1,069

691

843

-18%

10

70,021,659

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table

4 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You’re right. Everyone needs to adapt and just get on with it. 
10 deaths /million of population over the past week does not justify the hoops, closed schools especially as Thai families are suffering from being jobless and penniless. 
 

Restrictions are changing but they need to be done quicker. 
 

I still expect there to be further relaxations in time for the main holiday period over Xmas / new year which was always the main goal. 
 

Thailand

74,822

78,862

-5%

1,069

691

843

-18%

10

70,021,659

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table

That's 670 deaths in one week. Thousands in the hospital. Many who will suffer long term effects. And many children now without parents.

 

Not sure why some try to play down the severity of this pandemic. Strange.

23 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

That's 670 deaths in one week. Thousands in the hospital. Many who will suffer long term effects. And many children now without parents.

 

Not sure why some try to play down the severity of this pandemic. Strange.

Because it’s about perspective not over emotion. These are overwhelmingly old people and people with pre existing conditions. 
People are dying every day for a whole variety of other reasons. Check some of them out like road deaths. Do we stop letting people get in cars as well?
How many younger lives are being permanently  destroyed through loss of livelihoods, suicides, mental health issues, kids education. 
This is predominately an old persons disease and e balance has now swing too far. Imo. 

12 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Because it’s about perspective not over emotion. These are overwhelmingly old people and people with pre existing conditions. 
People are dying every day for a whole variety of other reasons. Check some of them out like road deaths. Do we stop letting people get in cars as well?
How many younger lives are being permanently  destroyed through loss of livelihoods, suicides, mental health issues, kids education. 
This is predominately an old persons disease and e balance has now swing too far. Imo. 

You must not follow the news closely. The Delta variant is going after younger people now. Is more deadly. And has terrible long term effects.

 

Please. Don't try to equate this to road deaths, etc. That's ridiculous.

 

Not to mention we may only be a breath away from a really devastating variant.

6 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Because it’s about perspective not over emotion. These are overwhelmingly old people and people with pre existing conditions. 
People are dying every day for a whole variety of other reasons. Check some of them out like road deaths. Do we stop letting people get in cars as well?
How many younger lives are being permanently  destroyed through loss of livelihoods, suicides, mental health issues, kids education. 
This is predominately an old persons disease and e balance has now swing too far. Imo. 

Your opening line is to put things in perspective and not get over emotional, then you go on to use suicides, road deaths, education, loss of livelihood as your arguments!

 

This is about covid, the pre existing conditions are present in 40% of the adult population, it is not just about old people and old people are also no fodder.

 

The balance is only achieved when vaccinations are at the level required not before, education is being worked on with students now receiving vaccinations, before many other countries have even got round to it.

Proceed with the million per population figures, if makes it easier for you to digest. 
 

The topic is about opening Thailand up to fully vaccinated tourists. 

42 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

You must not follow the news closely. The Delta variant is going after younger people now. Is more deadly. And has terrible long term effects.

 

Please. Don't try to equate this to road deaths, etc. That's ridiculous.

 

Not to mention we may only be a breath away from a really devastating variant.

He is not even in Thailand. Ask him when he's coming back here.  You won't get an answer though.

So what is the current AHS plan for Pattaya after November 1?  If one is vaccinated:

1:  Still need a COE?

2:  Still must book and stay in some AHS hotel for 7 days?

3:  Some PCR tests required??  I heard 2 maybe? Paid in advance or on the spot?

4:  Normal stuff still needed such as COVID insurance, whatever curfew or limits are in place, etc

5: Will airlines or Bangkok airport officials require negative COVID test within 72 hours of flying?

Baby steps, baby steps. Maybe by December first, Thailand will actually open up and get rid

of the restrictions, and other BS, as they may finally realize that the number of tourists is

still very low.   50 days to go, so I guess the TAT and Thai government have at least that much time to get 

their stuff together, and do something right.

Geezer

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Because it’s about perspective not over emotion. These are overwhelmingly old people and people with pre existing conditions. 
People are dying every day for a whole variety of other reasons. Check some of them out like road deaths. Do we stop letting people get in cars as well?
How many younger lives are being permanently  destroyed through loss of livelihoods, suicides, mental health issues, kids education. 
This is predominately an old persons disease and e balance has now swing too far. Imo. 

A new low, even by your standards.

 

Please read this.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/what-researchers-say-about-long-term-effects-covid-19-2021-10-07/

 

 

 

On 10/9/2021 at 5:38 AM, Scrotobike said:

And you do not want to meet a cross Brit looking for an open bar.......

Wow, well if the habit is that intense, then perhaps every Brit should carry a supply of this vital drug on his person at all times...?

8 hours ago, sapson said:

Utter Boll@x!

 

 

UK testing 1 million people per day versus Thailand"s 40,000.

 

So if the 40k a day tests in Thailand is correct and with todays figures combined of 20k positives thats a healthy 50% positive rate or 25% if you ignore antigens as is a current trend.

 

Yes come on down Brits no drinks and we shut at 9pm but COVID available everywhere 24 hrs from our willing population largely vaccinated with Sinovac mostly ineffective against the latest Delta variant.

Austria with 8.5 mill population does more than 100.000 tests daily. Average infections about 2000.  Work out the real no. in Thailand.

21 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Thank you for this "update", TAT.

 

According to my sources, brutal fighting has already broken out at Heathrow and Manchester airports as millions of stampeding Brits, deprived of their "Amazing Thailand" experience for almost two years, are scrambling for plane seats.  

Probably the 6am boozing in the departure lounge after a night out.

Thailand is open but shut!