Transgender celeb on the run from religious authorities gives thanks to Thailand after being resettled

[GroveHillWanderer]

23 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

Why should I be forced to pretend that this person is a female when science and biology proves that he is not.

There is no definitive method in science or biology of determining what a person's sex is.

 

As stated in the Nature article below:

 

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The idea that science can make definitive conclusions about a person’s sex or gender is fundamentally flawed.

US proposal for defining gender has no basis in science

 

As it points out, examining the genitalia doesn't work as there is way too much variability.

 

The same is true of both hormones and chromosomes - too much variance and no available method for defining sex or gender based on them.

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

That is very nice, but why she couldn't stay in Thailand???

Bars are closed... ????

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

says who, I can see we will soon be having a theological debate over whether or not there is a God.

God made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th day.

Phuket is working.

That's my 5 bahts worth of input.

 

[nausea]

I don't think this is about her being transgender as such. It's more about her going on religious pilgrimage to Mecca posing as a woman, then posting photos on social media celebrating the event. Talk about a red rag to a bull.

 

 

No doubt there is heavy discriminatiom in Malaysia against transgenders (encouraged by both Christian and Moslem leaders, I understand), but Nur Sajat, as a wealthy celebrity, was mostly insulated from all that, until she decided to push the envelope that is.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Call me when she gives birth.

 

Oh dear, such narrow outdated thinking for a wide information rich world.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

That is very nice, but why she couldn't stay in Thailand???

Probably because he was here illegally, on an invalid passport and was on bail awaiting a Thai court appearance!

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

How many more, that aren't rich and pretty, are left to be persecuted? It is long past time to move past desert mythologies.

 

What "myths" are you referring to?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Bert got kinky said:

I am sorry but the person was born male and despite their efforts they still do not have a womb.

Biologically this person is still a female.

"Biologically this person is still a female".

What?   What are you talking about?   Biologically, and in every other rational sense, he is a man, regardless of how he acts.

[Bert got kinky]

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Biologically this person is still a female".

What?   What are you talking about?   Biologically, and in every other rational sense, he is a man, regardless of how he acts.

Whoops, it seems that I sometimes get my genders wrong as well, that should have read male.

 

[Bert got kinky]

36 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, such narrow outdated thinking for a wide information rich world.

That's really up to me and none of your business.

We have different beliefs, please accept that instead of trying to force your beliefs on to me.

 

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Call me when she gives birth.

 

SO Barren women are not females. goodness even catholics do not believe that

[freedomnow]

Welcome to the Land of Wonder - 'Down Under'.

[tingtong]

5 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

That is very nice, but why she couldn't stay in Thailand???

More competition + less welfare.

 

Article said, an entrepreneur. 

Recognized Thailand as a bad business decision?

 

[Grusa]

In my view, there are minorities and there are minorities. Why must the whole of humanity grovel to the God of political correctness for 0.0001% of the population. Call him /her/them whatever he/she/they/it wants, if that is your wish, but don't force the rest of us to believe he/she /they /it is anything other than a human with X and Y chromosomes as dispensed at birth. Equally don't force your religious beliefs and prejudices down everyone else's throats. My imaginary friend is as good as your imaginary fiend (sic). Black/white/yellow /brown /blue /tartan lives matter! Equally! 

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

isn't he on your side, isn't he your co-pilot and doesn't he give you the divine right of free choice?, asking for my pet turtle who wants to be a real boy like Pinocchio.

Found your turtle but he's only got one leg.

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What "myths" are you referring to?

The whole load of ideas that their is some great bearded being in the sky who is in charge of everything and can see and hear all the people on the planet (at the same time).

Have you ever seen any of the great master pieces of adam and eve? Look closely and you'll see they've got belly buttons.  Think about that for as long as you like. ????

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

That's really up to me and none of your business.

We have different beliefs, please accept that instead of trying to force your beliefs on to me.

 

But it's ok for you to force your beliefs on those you think should not be addressed as she?

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

There is no god

Source?

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Source?

You are asking for evidence of the non existence of something there is no evidence for the existence of.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Bluespunk

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

You are asking for evidence of the non existence of something there is no evidence for the existence of.

Your view, not mine or others apparently.  If there is no God you could prove it without your silly post by posting true and completely backed up proof.  

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

Found your turtle but he's only got one leg.

He is a rescued turtle from the Turtle soup factory.....

[EricTh]

5 hours ago, Moonlover said:

The Thai government is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention, therefor they neither accept, nor recognize refugees.

Really? Then why are there are so many hill tribes who are still living in Thailand? These hill tribes were refugees from Laos or Myanmar.

 

[ThailandRyan]

53 minutes ago, overherebc said:

The whole load of ideas that their is some great bearded being in the sky who is in charge of everything and can see and hear all the people on the planet (at the same time).

Have you ever seen any of the great master pieces of adam and eve? Look closely and you'll see they've got belly buttons.  Think about that for as long as you like. ????

All were created in his image, so it would make perfect sense for the first woman and man to have a belly button now wouldn't it.

[Bluespunk]

12 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Your view, not mine or others apparently.  If there is no God you could prove it without your silly post by posting true and completely backed up proof.  

There is no evidence to prove the existence of god, there is nothing to disprove.

 

Oh and less of the derogatory terms to describe others posts please...

Edited October 19, 2021 by Bluespunk

[Bert got kinky]

 

 

29 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

But it's ok for you to force your beliefs on those you think should not be addressed as she?

Forcing my beliefs by correcting a grammar error, you really are clutching at straws, aren't you.

 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by Bert got kinky

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

That's really up to me and none of your business.

We have different beliefs, please accept that instead of trying to force your beliefs on to me.

 

No ones trying to force their beliefs on you, just saying your views are outdated and might need to be reviewed just like security software, things do need to be updated and changed now and again.

[Bluespunk]

19 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

 

Forcing my beliefs by correcting a grammar error, you really are clutching at straws, aren't you.

 

 

It's not correcting any grammar - the woman who fled persecution wishes to be addressed as she and it is wrong to deny her this.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Bluespunk

[bangon04]

6 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Quite ironic when you consider that  Muhammad used to dress up in his wives' clothing. He even received revelations while dressed in his child bride Aisha's garments, making him the world's first and only cross-dressing prophet. !

maybe some artistic member of the forum could draw us a nice cartoon of that scenario..........

[BangkokReady]

39 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

You are asking for evidence of the non existence of something there is no evidence for the existence of.

Do you have it?

[bangon04]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Probably because he was here illegally, on an invalid passport and was on bail awaiting a Thai court appearance!

sounds like a perfect candidate for the Thai monkhood