‘Joe Ferrari’, six former cops to be prosecuted over fatal torture of suspect

[snoop1130]

 

Four charges, including murder by torture or brutal acts, will be filed with public prosecutors tomorrow (Wednesday) against Thitisan Utthanaphon, aka “Joe Ferrari” and six other former police officers for allegedly suffocating a suspect to death with plastic bags.

 

Deputy National Police Chief Suchart Thiraswasdi, told the media today (Tuesday) that the officers handling the case have wrapped up their investigation and are ready to submit the case to public prosecutors tomorrow.

 

The three other charges to be filed against the seven former police officers, all attached to Nakhon Sawan’s Muang district police office, are malfeasance in office, negligence of duty and coercion.

 

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[Pib]

I bet "....uncovered several suspicious matters...." relates to other VIPs involved in getting some of the rewards.....and they need more time to cover their tracks.  

 

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Regarding the 400 smuggled luxurious cars, reportedly seized by Thitisan over the past several years and which earned him substantial rewards from the Customs Department, Pol Gen Suchart said that the investigation of the case is about 80% complete, adding that they had uncovered several suspicious matters relating to the reward claims.

 

[smedly]

make it public - open and honest for everyone to observe 

 

stop hiding behind closed doors - we have what is called "public prosecution" in the west because these criminals commit crimes against the public ......................make them open to the public 

 

is it in the public interest to see these scum behind bars  ...................... 100% 

[RichardColeman]

from link : 

Police have impounded about 131 million baht worth of suspected ill-gotten assets of Thitisan, which include a 57-million baht house in a Bangkok suburb, about two dozen expensive cars and 18 guns.

 

Guy sounds more like Scarface than a policeman

[TheFishman1]

I think it was all just a misunderstanding TIT

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Deputy National Police Chief Suchart Thiraswasdi, told the media today (Tuesday) that the officers handling the case have wrapped up their investigation and are ready to submit the case to public prosecutors tomorrow.

A poor choice or words under the circumstances... 

but having said that I hope the evidence is as tight as the plastic bags were.

[mikebell]

'Police have impounded about 131 million baht worth of suspected ill-gotten assets of Thitisan, which include a 57-million baht house in a Bangkok suburb, about two dozen expensive cars and 18 guns.'

Yet no one noticed till he was accused of murder!

[Gottfrid]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

we have what is called "public prosecution" in the west because these criminals commit crimes against the public

Yes, in the west! I assume you have done like many more, and chosen Thailand because it is different. I do not say they should not be prosecuted and locked up, but how they do it is not very important.

[gt162]

This police colonel "Joe Ferrari " will be replaced with another "joe ferrari". I think he stepped on too many toes from higher up for other reasons. 

 

Plenty of other colonels willing to take his position for the right price and play the game without messing with the system and his bosses. 

[mtls2005]

Needless to say the luxury car impound/reward franchise has been sold to a new chap.

 

 

[XJPSX]

This has taken a long time considering they have have a video of them putting plastic bags over a man’s head who happens to be dead.

No doubt been getting the story straight. Protecting those above on the take and dividing up a car collection and a lot of cash and IOU’s.

[spidermike007]

Total nonsense. The real problem is, they will not go after these guys. Not the top bankers, not the high ranking guys, not the provincial authorities, and certainly not the army, or the police. They are all corrupt beyond imagination. And the level of corruption simply escalates, the further up the food chain you go. They police and army are not expected to be honest, and they are not expected to engage in law enforcement, traffic or public safety, on any level. It is an irrevocably broken and dysfunctional system. Any hyperbole to the contrary, is just a smoke screen, intended to deceive the most naive amongst us.

 

The Anti-Corruption Organization of Thailand (ACT) is one of the most feeble and ineffective of all the tools Prayuth has used to deceive the people into believing that he is fighting corruption. Who was the last high level authority, in the police, immigration, the army, or the active administration they arrested, charged, tried convicted, and sent to prison? Nobody. Zero. Nunca. Nada. Why? Because Prayuth has had a mandate from the beginning to do the very opposite. To protect the elite, the super wealthy who are guilty, those that are connected, and those who are in power. Just think Dark Tao. Just think Red Bull. The list goes on, and on, and on. 

 

It barely matters what they do. These guys are above the law. Any and all laws. The only time they are arrested is when it becomes big news, or it is reported internationally, and Thailand gets a ton of egg on it's face. And even then, it normally does not result in a conviction. Very, very few current (not former) police, immigration, customs, cabinet officials, army officials, or administration officials are arrested here, tried, convicted and imprisoned. The corruption here is never ending.

 

[XJPSX]

4 minutes ago, gt162 said:

This police colonel "Joe Ferrari " will be replaced with another "joe ferrari". I think he stepped on too many toes from higher up for other reasons. 

 

Plenty of other colonels willing to take his position for the right price and play the game without messing with the system and his bosses. 

Sadly you are 100% right. They would of put this position out to tender and someone would of paid handsomely for this role / promotion. 
The boys above will still be getting their lick without a doubt.

[Pib]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

Very, very few current (not former) police, immigration, customs, cabinet officials, army officials, or administration officials are arrested here, tried, convicted and imprisoned. The corruption here is never ending.

 

Yea, but some are moved to inactive positions for 30 days (or longer) while retaining full pay/benefits...also known as extra vacation days.   Isn't that punishment enough....being put on long term paid vacation can be stressful.  

[Srikcir]

Will we see a re-enactment of the crime ( goose & gander thing) or will that be a "bridge too far" for police?

[Jimbo2014]

2 hours ago, gt162 said:

This police colonel "Joe Ferrari " will be replaced with another "joe ferrari". I think he stepped on too many toes from higher up for other reasons. 

 

Plenty of other colonels willing to take his position for the right price and play the game without messing with the system and his bosses. 

I think you are being a little presumptuous.  Would you fire a top sales person at work?   A genius IT guy who fixes all your problems?  A guy who just makes money for you and your business day in day out while others sleep and nap at work?  No way.  You promote them, lift them to the top where they will have the greatest impact.  Someone like that knows too much about your business, they know the inns and out, the clients and your personal taxes and ways your executives make money.  Thus it will be with Joe.  He may not come back as Joe Ferrari but he will come back as Joe BMW or Joe Private Jet.     

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

I think it was all just a misunderstanding TIT

It was. They thought they could murder with impunity. Maybe they already had before, who knows, so I can understand their misunderstanding. So that I'm not misunderstood, I'm not saying they had murdered anyone before.

[Gillyflower]

5 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

I think it was all just a misunderstanding TIT

You're the only one who understands.

[Dont confuse me]

10 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

from link : 

Police have impounded about 131 million baht worth of suspected ill-gotten assets of Thitisan, which include a 57-million baht house in a Bangkok suburb, about two dozen expensive cars and 18 guns.

 

Guy sounds more like Scarface than a policeman

Agree but imagine what those 'up the chain of command' got, because I can't see them not knowing about Jo's good fortune and not expecting/wanting a slice of the cake!

[rudi49jr]

13 hours ago, smedly said:

make it public - open and honest for everyone to observe 

Ain’t never going to happen. All kinds of negotiations are going on behind the scenes as we speak, about who is going to pay whom how much. I’m surprised, by the way, that Joe didn’t “commit suicide” yet, or got shot while trying to escape, or accidentally stabbed himself in the back six times while cleaning his finger nails with a pen knife.

Joe Ferrari and his buddies don’t want to go to jail for too long, and they certainly don’t want to get whacked. In a corrupt system money always moves up the chain, so there are probably quite a few people up there who don’t want their names mentioned in the ongoing investigations. And then there are the judges, who can be either harsh or lenient, depending on how “motivated” they are.

We will never know what deals are being made between all the parties involved, but I’m pretty sure it involves a whole lot of fat brown envelopes, plus threats to Joe cum suis that they’d better keep their traps shut, or else.

[Artisi]

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Needless to say the luxury car impound/reward franchise has been sold to a new chap.

 

 

Yep, ????The wheels on the bus go round and round ????

[fondue zoo]

7 hours ago, mikebell said:

Yet no one noticed till he was accused of murder!

 

The baht must flow...

[Artisi]

9 hours ago, mikebell said:

'Police have impounded about 131 million baht worth of suspected ill-gotten assets of Thitisan, which include a 57-million baht house in a Bangkok suburb, about two dozen expensive cars and 18 guns.'

Yet no one noticed till he was accused of murder!

There was nothing to notice, big houses, a garage full of cars, a vast collection of.......... is normal and doesn't raise a second glance. 

[spidermike007]

6 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Ain’t never going to happen. All kinds of negotiations are going on behind the scenes as we speak, about who is going to pay whom how much. I’m surprised, by the way, that Joe didn’t “commit suicide” yet, or got shot while trying to escape, or accidentally stabbed himself in the back six times while cleaning his finger nails with a pen knife.

Joe Ferrari and his buddies don’t want to go to jail for too long, and they certainly don’t want to get whacked. In a corrupt system money always moves up the chain, so there are probably quite a few people up there who don’t want their names mentioned in the ongoing investigations. And then there are the judges, who can be either harsh or lenient, depending on how “motivated” they are.

We will never know what deals are being made between all the parties involved, but I’m pretty sure it involves a whole lot of fat brown envelopes, plus threats to Joe cum suis that they’d better keep their traps shut, or else.

True. Prayuth is Mr. Misinformation. Transparency is not something he knows how to do. Remember, he is an army general. A position where you get away with anything, and do nothing.