Actions to be taken against ‘Clubhouse’ users who discriminate against people from Isaan

[snoop1130]

 

Thai Minister of Digital Economy and Society (DES), Chaiwut Thanakamanusorn, has vowed to take legal action against anyone who openly discriminates or has discriminated against people born in the country’s north-eastern region, known as Isaan, in online discussions on the “Clubhouse” platform.

 

Meanwhile, a group of north-eastern MPs, from the opposition Pheu Thai Party, called on the government today (Monday) to take immediate action to stop this provocative act which, they said, may incite division among Thai people. They also want the creation of a better understanding among Thais toward the Isaan people, their cultures and traditions.

 

Chaiwut admitted today that the criticism in the “Clubhouse” chat room has caused widespread unease among members of the public, adding that he has instructed officials to ascertain if any of the criticism is inflammatory, false or discriminatory, which may cause damage to the public, in accordance with the computer crime law. Those found guilty will be liable to a maximum of five years in prison and/or a maximum fine of 100,000 baht.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/actions-to-be-taken-against-clubhouse-users-who-discriminate-against-people-from-isaan/

 

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[Gold Star]

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

[clivebaxter]

6 minutes ago, Gold Star said:

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

Hill tribe people don't get a great deal either

[Gold Star]

2 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

Hill tribe people don't get a great deal either

Yeah, quite a deep pecking order they have here.

Best I can figure, we are somewhere beneath the flea, under the Hilltribe dog.

[cocoonclub]

3 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

Don’t make a fool of yourself here…

[bangkokbonecollector]

Because discrimination will lead to offense, then thinking and then the realization that they are most definitely sadly used in this country. My partner was ethnically abused in school by Thai-Chinese and Thai-Malay, they called her 'green'.

 

I have heard that SOME Bangkokians/ Thai-Chinese have a rather nasty saying about their fellow countryman. They say that an Issan person is happy as long as they have something to eat, drink and boomboom, everything else is mai pen rai. I think they are easily used because they are such nice and easy going people and in a sense most do just want a simple life. I do not believe the intent behind this saying is that but more than they are simpletons. Maybe the reason why that is all they care about is because they already know the dice are loaded so better to just have fun and enjoy life rather then attempt the insurmountable.

 

However, I and my partner do not think this is endemic whatsoever and my partner has never experienced any sort of discrimination at her office or any companies she has worked for.

Edited November 8, 2021 by bangkokbonecollector

[freedomnow]

How do Thai's generally view Issan people then ? If it is possible to generalise...

 

Like a sector of people outside 'true Thai" or something ?

[Meat Pie 47]

4 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

you not born in Thailand

[bangkokbonecollector]

1 hour ago, freedomnow said:

How do Thai's generally view Issan people then ? If it is possible to generalise...

 

Like a sector of people outside 'true Thai" or something ?

Wow that's a big and quite complicated question.

 

Thai's are a mixture of Tai, Indic, Mon, Malay & Khmer. Tai's came to Thailand from southern China around 700AD. So to be honest the Issan folk were already here when the Tai's (Possibly could say the modern day Thai-Chinese but there have been many emigrations of Chinese over the centuries but the Tai's were definitely the first and are the same ethnic group as the Chinese who arrived in the 18th and 19th centruies) arrived. I would say the Indic, Mon, & Khmer were the founders and creators of modern day Thailand. The first true empire/ period was the Dvaravati period (400AD), which, was indianised. You can see an example of this in the Mon wheel of the Law or Dharmacakra which was the main Dvaravati symbol and is actually on the Indian flag today.

 

Not many people know this but the Khmer empire was actually initially a Hindu empire. I far prefer Khmer symbols and architecture, I love the laterite brick.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by bangkokbonecollector

[Damrongsak]

6 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Hill tribe people don't get a great deal either

Yeah.  I got rather used to them when I worked in the refugee camps back in 1979/80.  I spent a lot of time (and many nights) at the Ban Vinai camp in Loei.  There were thousands of Hmong there.  I was impressed by some of the teenage kids we hired to help out with the resettlement interviewing process.  Tough folks. 

 

The prior two years I worked with Isaan farmers in Loei.  We got along well. 

Edited November 8, 2021 by Damrongsak

[thailand49]

11 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

The leaders including their judges draw the line as long as you look like Thai they will stop but if you are any other color and have more than they do it is O.K. to discriminate because you have it.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

you not born in Thailand

Thank the lord.

[Bangkok Barry]

People simply don't like people and will find any reason at all to dislike and abuse others. It is universal and first shows itself in school yard bullying, so it's inbuilt into the genes rather than learned from others. And doesn't everyone resent a stranger sitting next to them on a bus or train or plane (except when I was seated next to a delightful Japanese girl when flying Tokyo - New York. That was good).

[RobU]

well that means we are double d*****d, I am a foreigner she was born and now  lives in our home in the Isaan region. Absolutely no chance of fair treatment

[spermwhale]

On 11/8/2021 at 5:16 AM, Gold Star said:

Great start.

Now when will they stop the discrimination towards expats?

Is that a joke? Lived 17 years in Thailand and never felt any discrimination. I always felt they treated me better than they treat each other. I can't name a single instance of discrimination against me. 

And don't say double pricing in some venues. That's a blanket standard at those places for all foreigners, expats and tourists alike. 

I doubt very seriously you've suffered real discrimination like a black man in a small town in the American South. 

[KhaoYai]

Well its not much of a chance but given Prayuth's roots, you'd hope they'll find it easier to clamp down on this discrimination.

[Gold Star]

12 hours ago, spermwhale said:

Is that a joke? Lived 17 years in Thailand and never felt any discrimination. I always felt they treated me better than they treat each other. I can't name a single instance of discrimination against me. 

And don't say double pricing in some venues. That's a blanket standard at those places for all foreigners, expats and tourists alike. 

I doubt very seriously you've suffered real discrimination like a black man in a small town in the American South. 

You must be living in a temple. Most of the discrimination involves or is permitted by the government or police.

 

Man, where should I start?

 

Anutin blaming the pandemic spread on 'dirty falangs'.

 

No vaccines available for falangs, only Thai's early on. 

 

My Thai friend that looks like a foreigner must pay foreigner pricing at parks etc. even though he has his ID card and clearly is a Thai.  Yes, dual pricing IS discrimination.

 

Insurance rates higher.

 

Legal matters rarely favour the foreigner.

 

Accidents are most often blamed on the foreigner, even though they are clearly not guilty. If you were not in this country, he would not have hit you and the accident would not have happened.

 

Walk away from every altercation involving a Thai as you will soon have 10 other Thai's kicking the <deleted> out of you.

 

Police stop you for infractions made up on the spot, while Thai's speed by 3 up, no helmets, or licences.

 

Alcohol and drug urine tests are most often given to falangs, while Thais walk.

 

In most all instances involving contracts, purchases, or legal things, the foreigner is at a disadvantage, and most likely to be a mark in a scam. My friend with rentals now has no income from his tenants, as his agent kept the money, and has no recourse, as it is the falang that can bear the loss.

 

I could go on and on and on, as well as others that can add their stories.....