webfact Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Picture: Naew Na Naew Na reported from Suan Phlu immigration HQ yesterday on what they called a "big crackdown" on the smuggling of illegal immigrants in November. The reality is that this work has been progressing throughout the pandemic after Thailand shut its borders with neighboring counties, notes ASEAN NOW. Illegal immigrants are brought in by gangs to work in Thailand. The media reported the arrest of 475 migrants and 36 who aided and abetted them. The cases involved three in Sa Kaeo, Kanchanaburi and Prachuap Khirikhan provinces. Health insurance plans that meet the long stay visa requirements -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-12-09 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted December 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Illegal immigrants are brought in by gangs to work in Thailand. Haven't heard of one Thai business owner being fined/jailed for hiring illegals. 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunjeff Posted December 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Illegal immigrants are brought in by gangs to work in Thailand. The media reported the arrest of 475 migrants From the US State Department's 2021 Trafficking in Persons Report: "Consistent with the definition of human trafficking, governments should not penalize or prosecute victims of trafficking in persons for the unlawful acts their trafficker compelled them to commit. This principle aims to protect victims from being held legally responsible for conduct that was not their choice, but rather was driven by their trafficker. If a government has penalized or punished a victim in such a way, the government should vacate the conviction and/or expunge the victim’s record." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berrec Posted December 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just always love all the effort that goes into their presentations; it's all about show here in Thailand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 hours ago, khunjeff said: conduct that was not their choice, but rather was driven by their trafficker. Are you suggesting that the illegal immigrants did NOT want to come to Thailand and so should not be punished? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 20 hours ago, hotchilli said: Haven't heard of one Thai business owner being fined/jailed for hiring illegals. Brown envelopes flying in certain directions. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, fangless said: Are you suggesting that the illegal immigrants did NOT want to come to Thailand and so should not be punished? That's a very good question, though I'm not sure if it happens in Thailand, but I do know that girls think they are being taken to other countries thinking they are going for other jobs, then find out there are none, then they are held and forced to into prostitution. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trvlr55 Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 3:22 AM, khunjeff said: From the US State Department's 2021 Trafficking in Persons Report: "Consistent with the definition of human trafficking, governments should not penalize or prosecute victims of trafficking in persons for the unlawful acts their trafficker compelled them to commit. This principle aims to protect victims from being held legally responsible for conduct that was not their choice, but rather was driven by their trafficker. If a government has penalized or punished a victim in such a way, the government should vacate the conviction and/or expunge the victim’s record." There is a huge difference between Illegal immigrants and human trafficking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asiasurfer Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 Why not crack down on the gangs behind them?? Probably because Thai employees wouldn't find any Thai staff building cheap condos, roads, taking the fish out of the see, etc etc... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Looks like they've upgraded from analog (vinyl) to digital (projector)? thailand 4.0 No clue why they feel the need to put on these amateur theatricals? No one is watching, and everyone knows that "enforcement" of this "industry" focuses on migrants and the few ground-level thais driving the pickup truck. The money is never, ever followed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) On 12/10/2021 at 12:17 PM, possum1931 said: That's a very good question, though I'm not sure if it happens in Thailand, but I do know that girls think they are being taken to other countries thinking they are going for other jobs, then find out there are none, then they are held and forced to into prostitution. I can't believe any woman is that gullible. Back to the OP, More likely this is about building workers. Edited December 12, 2021 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Seldom mentioned corollary Do they actually have control of the frontiers?, A regime with the most generals in the world with drones, cameras , fences and armies of rangers, immigration, conscripts paid peanuts and frontier guards border integrity has never been easier. I know it's incredible but its almost as if the poachers/keepers are either hand in glove or perhaps the same people, of course such chicanery is impossible in law abiding Buddhist land of smiles ? Trafficking of women and girls for sex work is rife, while we all know few locals want to sweat on construction sites for peanuts or sometimes no pay at all. Enforcement How hard would it be to visit the sites and brothels and check WPs and Visas , these foto op charades, gobbled by passive/colluding media, just mean a few go home unpaid and are replaced while the employers seem to escape with impunity, same world over, go almost any capital in first world and check teh brothels and kitchens and there'll you find the low paid victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Always with the crackdowns, I’m getting so sick of reading about it. So law enforcement officers do their actual job for once, big whoop. But what are they going to do next week? Probably back to their usual shenanigans of looking after their own interests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 19 hours ago, asiasurfer said: Why not crack down on the gangs behind them?? Probably because Thai employees wouldn't find any Thai staff building cheap condos, roads, taking the fish out of the see, etc etc... Not to mention who's at the head of these gangs... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Where's the BMW? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 3:22 PM, khunjeff said: From the US State Department's 2021 Trafficking in Persons Report: "Consistent with the definition of human trafficking, governments should not penalize or prosecute victims of trafficking in persons for the unlawful acts their trafficker compelled them to commit. This principle aims to protect victims from being held legally responsible for conduct that was not their choice, but rather was driven by their trafficker. If a government has penalized or punished a victim in such a way, the government should vacate the conviction and/or expunge the victim’s record." Economic immigrants are not trafficked. They are poor and wants to come here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 7:21 PM, hotchilli said: Haven't heard of one Thai business owner being fined/jailed for hiring illegals. Or any of the immigration officials who take the brown envelops letting them in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 10 hours ago, BritManToo said: this is about building workers How do you build workers, do you need a special building mould? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbko Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I remember hearing about the illegal construction workers getting arrested & deported and it always happens right before their payday. The rumor was the construction bosses called in the police raid as a way to get out of paying the workers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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