Shared drive storage.

[herfiehandbag]

I see many advertisements for data storage on Lazada - typically offering "lifetime access" to Google Chrome or One Drive, 5TB for B399 or so. These are described as "shared drives". Does that mean that all and sundry can browse anything you have put onto these "shared drives"? I have nothing particularly secret, and would certainly not put any personal/financial data on them, but don't really want everyone poking around in any files which I might save to such a drive.

[Henryford]

Personally i would never use any shared drive, not even the Cloud. It is just asking for trouble. Storage is so cheap now, terabites for a few thousand baht, why take the risk.

[OneMoreFarang]

There are advantages to the cloud.

I.e. you have a desktop computer at home and all important files in the cloud.

You go somewhere and need one of those files. Just get it from the cloud.

There is a fire wherever your computer is. No problem, the data is in the cloud.

 

And as long as the data is not so sensitive (maybe criminal) that law enforcement would be interested then the cloud should be secure enough.

[robblok]

Is a free dropbox account for 2 TB not enough ? 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/individual/plans-comparison

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Is a free dropbox account for 2 TB not enough ? 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/individual/plans-comparison

The free package is 2G.B. 

 

2 T.B. is $9.99 a month.

[robblok]

18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

The free package is 2G.B. 

 

2 T.B. is $9.99 a month.

My apologies i did not look good enough i saw 2 on both packages and missed the GB /TB difference. 2 GB is nothing.

[GrandPapillon]

with hard drives prices being so low, cloud companies are selling "network access" to those drives, and you are basically paying "storage" 10x times more than they are worth

 

the "shared drive" is poor wording, it means "network drive" and you can share files directly with others or NOT, but the idea is you can "share" your drive among your own devices (smartphone, tablets, PCs) wherever you are.

[robblok]

1 hour ago, GrandPapillon said:

with hard drives prices being so low, cloud companies are selling "network access" to those drives, and you are basically paying "storage" 10x times more than they are worth

 

the "shared drive" is poor wording, it means "network drive" and you can share files directly with others or NOT, but the idea is you can "share" your drive among your own devices (smartphone, tablets, PCs) wherever you are.

Its not just harddisk room you pay for, you pay for security maintenance backups and electricity and the servers those harddisk are in so im sure its profitable but i do feel its value for money. I got 5TB for a business account but will never ever fill it.

[GrandPapillon]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Its not just harddisk room you pay for, you pay for security maintenance backups and electricity and the servers those harddisk are in so im sure its profitable but i do feel its value for money. I got 5TB for a business account but will never ever fill it.

value for money? just buy a Synology, put at home it on your ADSL line and just use Synology quickaccess.to ID to have access to all your "shared" drive, and all for it basically free. You can also "rent" a Synology in a data center for as low as 5 USD/mo

 

Dropbox etc... are the lazy person solution, and guess what, that's what you are paying for it ????

 

[robblok]

3 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

value for money? just buy a Synology, put at home it on your ADSL line and just use Synology quickaccess.to ID to have access to all your "shared" drive, and all for it basically free. You can also "rent" a Synology in a data center for as low as 5 USD/mo

 

Dropbox etc... are the lazy person solution, and guess what, that's what you are paying for it ????

 

I got a qnap guess what your a smart ass.

 

I got 6 x6 Tb in my qnap, but it still not as protected as dropbox and also for my business its better to stay with the professionals and have a 180 days file retention and version retention. 

 

It all depends what you use it for, i can tell you one thing my qnap is not as fast as dropbox when sending files to people as dropbox has servers everywhere. More processing power and such.

 

I use my qnap as a backup and for movies and stuff. 

 

Like i said it all depends what you use stuff for. 

[GrandPapillon]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I got a qnap guess what your a smart ass.

 

I got 6 x6 Tb in my qnap, but it still not as protected as dropbox and also for my business its better to stay with the professionals and have a 180 days file retention and version retention. 

 

It all depends what you use it for, i can tell you one thing my qnap is not as fast as dropbox when sending files to people as dropbox has servers everywhere. More processing power and such.

 

I use my qnap as a backup and for movies and stuff. 

 

Like i said it all depends what you use stuff for. 

using dropbox for professional purposes? don't think so unless you are a solo business ????

[The Hammer2021]

6 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

value for money? just buy a Synology, put at home it on your ADSL line and just use Synology quickaccess.to ID to have access to all your "shared" drive, and all for it basically free. You can also "rent" a Synology in a data center for as low as 5 USD/mo

 

Dropbox etc... are the lazy person solution, and guess what, that's what you are paying for it ????

 

Paying for ease of use?

[robblok]

6 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

using dropbox for professional purposes? don't think so unless you are a solo business ????

I think you will be amazed, but then again how old are you ?

 

We talking big international firms here, lots of my Singaporean friends who work for big companies use dropbox papers and google sheets a lot. Sure i doubt that much sensitive company data is stored there.. But dropbox business has quite some safety features.

 

Anyway I think you might have been out of the loop for a while. But horses for courses of course. 

 

Im pretty sure dropbox business is far safer then your NAS drive, i mean how many days can you go back with backups ?

Oh for the record im running a TS653B Nas drive and i really like dropbox, though i use one drive too, not to mention google drive.

 

 

[robblok]

6 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Paying for ease of use?

Yea you got those cheap skates who think the connectivity from his Nas is as good to that to dropbox especially if your friends or clients are half way around the world. Your severely limited by your upload speeds set by your provider.

 

Plus dropbox has a 180 day file retention, im pretty sure his nas does not unless he only utilizes part of it.

 

He just does not want to accept that its just a personal preference. and hell what is 12,.$ a month (per user), i pay for office 365 too. Im sure he thinks im crazy and should use free office. 

 

It all really depends what you use it for. 

[robblok]

@GrandPapillon

https://www.appsruntheworld.com/customers-database/products/view/dropbox-business#:~:text=Companies using Dropbox Business for,and revenues of %2410.50 billions%2C

 

Companies using Dropbox Business for Content Management include: Netflix, Inc., a United States based Professional Services organisation with 9400 employees and revenues of $25.00 billions, McKinsey & Company, a United States based Professional Services organisation with 31364 employees and revenues of $10.50 billions, Wipro, a India based Professional Services organisation with 209890 employees and revenues of $8.70 billions, Lagardere, a France based Media organisation with 30000 employees and revenues of $8.56 billions, Hershey, a United States based Consumer Packaged Goods organisation with 22000 employees and revenues of $7.40 billions and many others.

 

Maybe you were wrong with only solo businesses using dropbox. 

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

i pay for office 365 too.

$99 a year for up to 5 users each getting 1TB of One Drive, MS Office and 100 minutes Skype calls seems a good deal to me. And it works!

[robblok]

Just now, KannikaP said:

$99 a year for up to 5 users each getting 1TB of One Drive, MS Office and 100 minutes Skype calls seems a good deal to me. And it works!

Yes for me it is but lots of people want things free, i also pay for google and dropbox. But to be honest i prefer dropbox the most. But it all about what your used for or what suits you best.

 

Long gone are the days that i as a student went for cracked versions of office and windows. I mean who know what else such a crack installs. Keyloggers anyone, and now with banking and other stuff more prominent on computers its not worth the risk.

[sirineou]

On 12/10/2021 at 10:58 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

There are advantages to the cloud.

I.e. you have a desktop computer at home and all important files in the cloud.

You go somewhere and need one of those files. Just get it from the cloud.

There is a fire wherever your computer is. No problem, the data is in the cloud.

 

And as long as the data is not so sensitive (maybe criminal) that law enforcement would be interested then the cloud should be secure enough.

I agree

Recently in a fit f rage I threw my laptop against the wall. My gard drive was totally destroyed and to recover the data I waldo have had to send it to a lab a very expensive proposition. Lucky for me I had saved my files on the cloud, and was able to restore them to the new laptop in a few minutes. I know I could have been backing up my hard drive on an external storage device, but who does that every day? On the cloud you have it set up to back up automatically. If it is safe for fortune five hundred companies to do it, I think it is safe for me.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, sirineou said:

Recently in a fit f rage I threw my laptop against the wall.

It seems you have other problems than backups...

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems you have other problems than backups...

Yea I know. Damn walls!!

[nobodysfriend]

Imo , Cloud storage is ok for non sensible files only as the system admin of the server ( whoever that is )  will definitely have access to your files as well ... ?

[GrandPapillon]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Maybe you were wrong with only solo businesses using dropbox. 

are you working for a big company? of course not, hence you are a solo business trying to pretend to be big ????

 

and of course you are paying for Office 365, and that just takes the cake :)

 

one born every minute, big tech love sheep :p

 

 

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

are you working for a big company? of course not, hence you are a solo business trying to pretend to be big ????

 

and of course you are paying for Office 365, and that just takes the cake ????

 

one born every minute, big tech love sheep ????

 

 

Not really mate, if you work with many clients you use what others use, compatibility and all you know. I never pretended to be big. I am not a one person company but your not far off. 

 

Can i ask how old you are ? I mean have you ever run a business. Does it not make sense to use what your clients use (compatibility wise ?) 

[GrandPapillon]

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

If it is safe for fortune five hundred companies to do it, I think it is safe for me.

the problem is that Fortune 500 companies get regularly hacked, so wouldn't use them as a benchmark of security. Just go to the darknet, you will be amazed about the document stash of Fortune 500 companies you can find there.

 

Dropbox in big firms is just a hack for employees not allowed to share "sensitive" data, or to sync their personal files. It's as insecure as any other solutions. To think otherwise is beyond naïve. I personally use Dropbox for my cr*p files and porn ???? but nothing professional.

 

If you want file security, ask yourself what a "white hat hacker" would use? dropbox, don't think so ????

 

[robblok]

Just now, GrandPapillon said:

the problem is that Fortune 500 companies get regularly hacked, so won't use them as a benchmark of security. Just go to the darknet, you will be amazed about the document stash of Fortune 500 companies you can find there.

 

Dropbox in big firms is just a hack for employees not allowed to share "sensitive" data, or to sync their personal files. It's as insecure as any other solutions. To think otherwise is beyond naïve. I personally use Dropbox for my <deleted> files and porn ???? but nothing professional.

 

If you want file security, ask yourself what a "white hat hacker" would use? dropbox, don't think so ????

 

Right you know it best, you dont tell me what your experience is.. or how old you are

 

https://blog.goptg.com/microsoft-office-365-statistics#:~:text=According to Bitglass%2C usage of,the shift to cloud services.

See how many companies use Microsoft office 

 

Anyway all the data goes against what your saying yet you think you know best. Its ok seen plenty of delusional people around.

[GrandPapillon]

14 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not really mate, if you work with many clients you use what others use, compatibility and all you know. I never pretended to be big. I am not a one person company but your not far off. 

 

Can i ask how old you are ? I mean have you ever run a business. Does it not make sense to use what your clients use (compatibility wise ?) 

gee, I wonder how we could share files with employees or clients in the early 2000s before Dropbox existed ????

 

it's not about compatibility, dropbox is a nomad solution, not an enterprise sharing solution, even though they try to sell themselves as such.

 

Synology has "secure" sharing, better than dropbox could imagine, and you can backup to S3 AWS continuously, and of course file retention can be up to 18 months.

 

Dropbox is in the business of making money from the lazy and the clueless, period. Nothing wrong with that, and indeed they are successful in this world because there is no shortage of lazy and clueless people ????

 

 

 

[GrandPapillon]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Right you know it best, you dont tell me what your experience is.. or how old you are

 

https://blog.goptg.com/microsoft-office-365-statistics#:~:text=According to Bitglass%2C usage of,the shift to cloud services.

See how many companies use Microsoft office 

 

Anyway all the data goes against what your saying yet you think you know best. Its ok seen plenty of delusional people around.

MS Office is MS cash cow, they can't live without it, and at the end, firms don't care anymore about their IT infrastructure and office solution, it's a commodity business, let MS take care of that cr*p ????

 

some CTO might be barking about Office cloud solutions for security reasons, but at the same time, they are forced to by big tech firms for financial reasons.

 

At least, when they get hacked, they can all blame it on MS ???? like it happened with SolarWinds

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

gee, I wonder how we could share files with employees or clients in the early 2000s before Dropbox existed ????

 

it's not about compatibility, dropbox is a nomad solution, not an enterprise sharing solution, even though they try to sell themselves as such.

 

Synology has "secure" sharing, better than dropbox could imagine, and you can backup to S3 AWS continuously, and of course file retention can be up to 18 months.

 

Dropbox is in the business of making money from the lazy and the clueless, period. Nothing wrong with that, and indeed they are successful in this world because there is no shortage of lazy and clueless ???? people

 

 

Right again you go past the wide use of dropbox.

 

Your NAS has huge limits. Power outage at your home ? as your away and need data ?

Fire at home when your not there ?

The speed of uploads if you are far from Thailand.

What if your internet provider has problems and you need your files.

 

Oh dear... Mr i know it all has forgotten about his own vulnerabilities. 

I considered all these things when i got my QNAP Nas 

 

[GrandPapillon]

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

Right again you go past the wide use of dropbox.

 

Your NAS has huge limits. Power outage at your home ? as your away and need data ?

Fire at home when your not there ?

The speed of uploads if you are far from Thailand.

What if your internet provider has problems and you need your files.

 

Oh dear... Mr i know it all has forgotten about his own vulnerabilities. 

I considered all these things when i got my QNAP Nas 

 

you can rent your "Synology" on a data center for as low as 5 USD/mo if you are so worried.

 

What happens once Dropbox face a major hack and all their backups are deleted? don't think it could happen? just wait ????

 

Your Synology can do a live sync of your shared drive to any cloud drive for backups. Most NAS don't do that.

 

Synology is the best solution for small firms with 20 employees or less. Dropbox is a complete heresy in IT infrastructure for a SOHO LAN

[GrandPapillon]

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

Fire at home when your not there ?

...

What if your internet provider has problems and you need your files.

 

if there is a fire and your laptop is in your home, then you are also done ????

 

power cut? or ADSL down? yeah that should work fine with your cloud solution ????